What do you think is the worst thing in TMNT history?
 

TMNT is one of the greatest things out there, but some of the stuff made has not been so good (cough we wish you a turtles christmas cough)
So anyway, what do YOU think is the worst thing that has come out of TMNT is? it can be anything! a show, a movie, a character, a voice actor, a piece of merchandise, anything! So tell me what you guys think!

The music stuff, Next Mutation...generally.

I haven't actually watched it, yet, but out of everything TMNT related that I'm aware of at the moment, I would have to say that the worst thing in it's history so far has been the Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation live-action series. Though the multitude of TMNT PSA's are a close second.

Though who knows, there might be something TMNT out there that I'm not yet aware of. I haven't been actively involved with anything ninja turtle related since the early 2000's, and even considering that, I wasn't aware of NT:TNM till last year...

Too depressing a topic.

Vanilla Ice? :lol:

It all comes down to opinions. I will say the very fact that Venus exsisted edges out the decapitated turtles in Image.

But there were no decapitated Turtles in Im -- oh, OK, I get it. This is like your schdict now.

Leo lost an arm,Raph's face is scarred,Don died and was resurrected as a cyborg. I am lucky in that my favorite did not get severely hurt. Its nothing for me. I don't like to see the turtles be battle damaged like that it. Its disrespectful in my opinion. Image is too far off from the turtles I like. You have your likes while I have mine. I don't even know why your commenting on my post since we are as far apart in our preferences as we can be. I hate Image and Venus. Tried them and did not like them so I ignore them.

Have any of you seen the monstrosity called "we wish you a turtles christmas"?
in my opinion it's the worst thing to come out of the TMNT franchise

Not sure if it or Turtle Tunes is worse.

looking at them now they are bad, but back in the day the kids ate it up. I used to always watch turtles tunes when i was younger

Its cheesy. I would not say bad. But if you want something considered worse along those lines? How about Operation:Blue Line? I love hearing the '87 cartoon voices but the whole short made me cringe it was so bad.



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TMNT III/topic

There's plenty worse than Turtles 3. Why does that film get so much flack?

Because people love to hop on the bandwagon, hate campaigns included.

What I like least may be portions of Mirages guest era, as well as that of the Archie series (specials & such).

The clear answer is the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour. Next Mutation was bad, but so was Power Rangers so it kinda was handcuffed by that. TMNT3 was actually ok and I loved the maimed Image Turtles, especially when it was written out of canon. Seeing something deviate so drastically in a series is fun and sometimes necessary. That's part of the reason I'm digging the new IDW comic so much.

Volume 4 for me.

Wow, I always figured you liked it for a while but just got frustrated with all the plot threads that never seemed to go anywhere. Do you just hate it outright or think of it as a major lost opportunity? And do you think it started to go wrong at any specific issue?

Well, I at least liked those Turtle costumes. They'd be the ultimate Halloween get-up. Although I still can't figure out why they mixed up Don and Mikey's body pieces. Also, FW voice cast was pretty cool in goofy live-action.

For me it was the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation. And I actually really enjoyed the music for the Coming Out of Their Shells Tour and still do on a majority of the tracks. :tcool:

I think the point I started realizing it was when Splinter died, but on reflection none of it was ever really good.

Peter never really had any direction, he was writing the whole thing as himself more so than as any particular character, and especially in the second half of the series... absolutely horrible writing. And then there's the April issue, which is just a train wreck of horribleness.

THAT is the single worst thing to happen in TMNT. April is a drawing created by one of the "Kirby Crystals"? What was Laird thinking?

Most Hot Topic shirts.

I haven't read every issue yet, but I think you've got a point. I think the art pretty strong up until they started to go with "digital" inking (around issue #7, perhaps?). It lost a lot of atmosphere. And the Super Turtles excursion was the point where I thought Laird started to lose his focus on the story. Up until then, you had lots of little hints of this big epic story that you hoped would deliver a satisfying payoff for long time readers. The Splinter funeral issue was both heartfelt and interesting because of all the cameo characters (even Leatherhead for some reason I can't remember).

But once Laird started to bring in the vampires, storylines just got progressively weirder and seemingly more pointless. We had a few issues of Gamera Raph running around the city and fighting other characters, Donatello having microscopic adventures, Mikey getting uh... "intimate" with an alien princess, and April's storyline just collapsing into increasingly unbelievable twists (even for a book with "Mutant Ninja Turtles" as title characters). Pretty much the only interesting storyline late into the book's run was Leonardo and his adventures. Mikey's space travels did start to get interesting as well, but we never did get to see how that wrapped up.

I like how you start by saying that you haven't actually watched it, yet some how you know that is the worst thing in TMNT history. I think people from Utah are the worst people in the country even though I have never been there.... sounds real intelligent huh? :trolleye: In my oppinion the worst thing to ever happen to the Ninja Turtles is the final season of the cartoon where they turn into big fat spiked messes. :tcry:

The European Vacation episodes...

Bob Fingerman's Archie TMNT issues, particularly the "May East" Saga.

I know those episodes really aren't very good, but when they showed up on the USA network out of no where, when I was certain I had seen every single episode there was, that was pretty awesome.

I mention them because I'm biased... :D

It was a compelling plot twist... with no compelling follow-through. I see no evidence in the latter part of Vol. 4 that there was ever any kind of real long-term plan for it.

Valid point. If you're gonna reveal a bizarre twist on the origin of a long-time character, you might as well try to flesh out fully the ramifications.

Which is kind of the problem with Volume 4 (and 2 for that matter) in general. It kind of feels like it's less "I have a plan for a beginning, middle, and end for this volume and everyone's arcs in it" and more "Ehhh... lemme just write one issue at a time and see where things go. Who knows what'll happen?" which isn't a particularly good storytelling style or practice.

But I'm still fascinated to see where he would have/will go regardless.

That is basically the problem I had with Splinter's death. It changed absolutely nothing with the characters or storyline.

this is going to get me some hate, but...Ninjara. I just don't care for her or generally "girlfriend" characters. I started out liking her but I eventually became annoyed with her presence in the story. ANd this is coming from a Raphael fan.

What the hell?!:-?
I never ...

For me, it would be Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III and The Next Mutation. I might even have to mention the final three seasons, but only on account of the red sky.

I don't really get ALL of the hate for The Next Mutation and the third movie. I mean they aren't THAT bad.

If it weren't for Venus and the "Power Ranger" villains, I sort of like The Next Mutation. And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III is just a mediocre film.

Volume Four is awesome. The p eople who hate on it are just those with a very strong impaitence and low tolerance for decompressed storytelling, a lack of imagination, a fear of change, and overall they just wanted to bash Pete for any reason because they COULD, they were spoiled brats who didnt get what THEY wanted.

I'll pick April's origin, Mikey's space quest, vampires, gamera Raph, microscopic Utroms and Karai's weird affairs over IDW's shlock anyday.

Utrom Shredder
 

Utrom Shredder (or Secret Origins, as that storyarc is called)