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CyberCubed 06-30-2012 12:49 AM

Do you think there will be any deaths allowed in this show?
 
The 4kids series actually got away with a couple of deaths for both major villains and minor characters. Not to mention some Foot or Triceratons along the way who seemed to be dead, (Mike pulls the grenade pin on a Triceraton's buckle and he explodes off-screen).

Do you think the Nick show will allow any deaths? The Avatar shows on Nick have allowed death, so I hope this does too.

Andrew NDB 06-30-2012 12:54 AM

Probably not. But people will get stung by bees and stuff.

Powder 06-30-2012 01:17 AM

It would be ever so slightly implied, if anything. But nothing up front, I'm sure.

Drose18 06-30-2012 07:02 AM

Watch at the end of episode one of 2k3 it will be that kind of death if any.

Green Machine 06-30-2012 07:11 AM

I doubt it. Not on Nickelodeon. It it was Cartoon Network I'd say yes.

PAAATE 06-30-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Machine (Post 962686)
I doubt it. Not on Nickelodeon.

The Avatar-shows says otherwise.

There won't be a lot of them. And Nick won't allow any death (the reason Jet's death is "only" heavily implied in A:TLA is because Nick didn't allow teenage-characters to die on screen).

So, will deaths be allowed? Sure. At least for adult characters. Will the writers kill off characters? I don't know. Obviously. Stupid rhetorical question...

Green Machine 06-30-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PAAATE (Post 962701)
The Avatar-shows says otherwise.

There won't be a lot of them. And Nick won't allow any death (the reason Jet's death is "only" heavily implied in A:TLA is because Nick didn't allow teenage-characters to die on screen).

So, will deaths be allowed? Sure. At least for adult characters. Will the writers kill off characters? I don't know. Obviously. Stupid rhetorical question...

Interesting. I never watched the avatar shows.

LotusBlossom 06-30-2012 08:54 AM

No chance in Hell.

And there's really no need to elaborate, I guess.

AquaParade 06-30-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 962658)
Probably not. But people will get stung by bees and stuff.

ahahah. Too funny.

TurtleTitan97 06-30-2012 01:05 PM

If the show allowed any deaths to happen, it'll most likely be off screen. We do know that Shredder blames Splinter for the death of his "true love" based off what was on his bio.

MikeandRaph87 06-30-2012 01:10 PM

I can see implied deaths that could allow the character to be dead but also brought back. It probably would not have been done like the first replacement leader of the Purple Dragons gang having his heart sliced through for failure but something like Super Shredder dropped the pier on himself and is implied to be dead but could shake it off if the writers ever decide to use the character again.

Candy Kappa 06-30-2012 03:13 PM

if batman Brave and the Bold can have deaths, on-screen death mind you, so can this show.


But do we want it, or even need it?

HerpDerp 06-30-2012 04:00 PM

They'll never show anybody actually being killed, but I don't see why they wouldn't have implied deaths if it's important to the plot. Korra had implied deaths ... heck, even Spongebob has implied deaths.

cryan 06-30-2012 04:50 PM

The deaths in the 4Kids series were implied.One of the episodes that had the garbageman saw a captian going down with the ship.All you see his his hat floating in the water.Which gave you a sense that something bad happened.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 962656)
The 4kids series actually got away with a couple of deaths for both major villains and minor characters. Not to mention some Foot or Triceratons along the way who seemed to be dead, (Mike pulls the grenade pin on a Triceraton's buckle and he explodes off-screen).

Do you think the Nick show will allow any deaths? The Avatar shows on Nick have allowed death, so I hope this does too.


LotusBlossom 06-30-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HerpDerp (Post 962862)
They'll never show anybody actually being killed, but I don't see why they wouldn't have implied deaths if it's important to the plot. Korra had implied deaths ... heck, even Spongebob has implied deaths.

Though what makes you think the writers will be creating those kinds of plots (in which "implied death" is important)?

Only time will tell, I suppose ... but I'm envisioning a much sillier, "slapstickier" sorta show.

Wait! What?! Someone was actually killed on "SpongeBob"?! (Or do you just mean that pirate dude?)

Moonlight1102 06-30-2012 07:39 PM

I'm okay with implied deaths, but what I'm not okay with is if any of the characters survive any sort of thing that would qualify as completely/outrageously fatal in most other shows.

Some examples, a villain is dumped in lava and comes out of it like it was pizza sauce. A henchman is caught in a building explosion, he is arrested later with only a few burns and holes in his clothing. I don't want "Character Invulnerability Where Death is Near-Impossible" in this TMNT show.

Andrew NDB 06-30-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight1102 (Post 962915)
I'm okay with implied deaths, but what I'm not okay with is if any of the characters survive any sort of thing that would qualify as completely/outrageously fatal in most other shows.

Some examples, a villain is dumped in lava and comes out of it like it was pizza sauce. A henchman is caught in a building explosion, he is arrested later with only a few burns and holes in his clothing. I don't want "Character Invulnerability Where Death is Near-Impossible" in a TMNT show.

Looks like there will already be stuff like that in there. In the trailer alone, Michelangelo jumps like 100 feet in the air to avoid an explosion.

Candy Kappa 06-30-2012 08:08 PM

It is a cartoon, a little cartoon physics don't hurt

Mr.Turtle 06-30-2012 11:30 PM

is there any death in kung fu panda?

Kendamu 06-30-2012 11:51 PM

I'm guessing a big, "Probably not." This is a kids' show meant to sell toys and video games to children. The older crowd would probably be happier with the IDW comics or the Mirage hardcover re-releases if they're looking for a little bit of death and some heavier fighting.

Sure, a death or two might be implied within the entire run of the series, but I'm sort of seeing this show as more of the Brave and the Bold-esque love letter to the brighter and more fun-loving adventures of the TMNT franchise and less of the Under the Red Hood-esque DTV comic book retelling that Mirage was trying to get Imagi to do at one point.

Candy Kappa 07-01-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle (Post 962954)
is there any death in kung fu panda?

don't know about the TV show, but the movies had guys falling down high falls to their doom.

gobo 07-01-2012 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 962917)
In the trailer alone, Michelangelo jumps like 100 feet in the air to avoid an explosion.

All mutants can do that. ;)

BubblyShell22 07-01-2012 08:26 AM

I don't know if they'll have death in the show. It might be implied, but we'll just have to wait and see. That's all we can do.

gobo 07-01-2012 09:25 AM

So true. Speculation's not an option. :P

DarkLightDragon 07-01-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 963037)
don't know about the TV show, but the movies had guys falling down high falls to their doom.



The sequel had implied genocide and the villain being crushed by his own weapon.

HerpDerp 07-01-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LotusBlossom (Post 962891)
Though what makes you think the writers will be creating those kinds of plots (in which "implied death" is important)?

Only time will tell, I suppose ... but I'm envisioning a much sillier, "slapstickier" sorta show.

Wait! What?! Someone was actually killed on "SpongeBob"?! (Or do you just mean that pirate dude?)

Well, off the top of my head, there was that episode where Spongebob buried a guy in the sand whilst the tide was coming in and left his "friend" Bubble Buddy (a non-sentient bubble) to dig him out. Later on in the episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MgOsNM-V4o

I think that ninja turtles will lie about half-way between Korra and Spongebob, and will be too slapstick to have serious deaths but too serious to have slapstick deaths, IYKWIM. With Korra it's okay for them to kill off characters because they have an agreed number of episodes and a pretty rigid storyline. Ninja turtles, however, has the potential to go on much longer so it would be no good if the villains actually got killed because then they couldn't come back in future episodes.

Mr.Turtle 07-01-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 963037)
don't know about the TV show, but the movies had guys falling down high falls to their doom.

but the guys did not die there's no blood coming out how do u kno they were dead?

Zany Orange Dude 07-01-2012 10:00 PM

I think there is a chance that there might be implied death,like BubblyShell. But other than that we'll just get the turtles destroying things.

Frozen_Cereal 07-06-2012 11:17 PM

Thinking back to the 4Kids show where Leonardo only used his swords on robots and inanimate objects, I figure that the only thing that'll "die" in this show are robots. Everything else will be kicked or punched unconscious until the next episode.

TheSkeletonMan939 07-07-2012 05:53 AM

Hopefully. Also, I hope people in the show are allowed to use guns (REAL guns that shoot bullets). I always thought it was dumb in 2003 that all the street gangs used laser rifles.

Coola Yagami 07-07-2012 01:54 PM

Not really. It's a cartoon for kids. Little kids. Like most cartoons, the only people that any 'normaly fatal' stuff will happen to are to the freaks that can survive it. Like how in the cartoons crooks shoot at Superman at all the time to show off how the bullets bounce off, but you never see Lois Lane getting shot or anything.

Mr.Turtle 07-08-2012 12:03 AM

i just want a lil bit blood that d be fine... just a tiny lil bit blood...

Coola Yagami 07-08-2012 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle (Post 966115)
i just want a lil bit blood that d be fine... just a tiny lil bit blood...

rofl *dies laughing* If not even the 2K3 version have blood... Nicktoons TMNT will have as much blood as spongebob.

NameGoesHere1066 07-08-2012 01:57 AM



after seeing Nick Mikey in action, I might wish death on him. Too early to tell yet from a trailer, but it looks like the interaction between Mike and his brother will be taking it's cue from the 2k3 series.

Cryomancer 07-08-2012 10:23 PM

Deaths I could see happening in certain ways, but I doubt we'll get to see any actual blade vs flesh weapon usage. Hooray censorship logic.

Mr.Turtle 07-08-2012 11:53 PM

i wanna c blood when they die. i ain't gonna accept they r dead if they didn't blood.

zkarlette 07-08-2012 11:56 PM

Do Utroms have blood?

Cowabunga Carl 07-09-2012 12:52 AM

I'd like there to be "death" in the show. I say it like that because you know that they wont stay dead. I can't see them getting rid of Shredder as the main villain, or if they did it would only be a temp thing.

Now lower ranking characters? We might see some of them die. It would be cool to see a Slash like death from Archie in the new show.

pannoni1 07-09-2012 09:47 AM

With today's saturation of media, its difficult not to experience death on a regular basis. Expect the villains to die from time to time given how many Disney Villians have died. For the good guys, I'd expect nothing worse than comas. Remember that April and Splinter were in comas in the OT (Enter: The Fly and Beneath These Streets for example). Even though April's parents may die in this series, expect any good guy death to be shown behind the scenes.

gobo 07-09-2012 10:25 AM

If any TMNT show ever includes people being sliced up or carnage of a similar nature, I'd probably rank it lower than The Next Mutation.


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