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VG_Addict 07-07-2012 06:30 PM

Turtles in Time or Hyperstone Heist?
 
Which was the better game: Turtles in Time for the SNES, or Hyperstone Heist for the Genesis?

TurtleTitan97 07-07-2012 06:35 PM

Turtles in Time. Nuff' said.

tone-master21 07-07-2012 08:02 PM

I also voted Turtles in Time.

Genesis 07-07-2012 08:22 PM

In terms of gameplay, they were virtually the same, but let's face it - the SNES version of Turtles in Time is even now the standard by which all TMNT games are judged. Especially in terms of music, it can't be beaten. Hyperstone Heist, they say, is more challenging, and I can see where they're coming from. As fate would have it, I only have a SEGA Genesis between the two main 16-bit consoles, so I've been playing Hyperstone Heist more than Turtles in Time, lately.

SS_Turtle 07-07-2012 08:28 PM

Having played both I'd have to go with Turtles in Time.

VG_Addict 07-07-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 965901)
In terms of gameplay, they were virtually the same, but let's face it - the SNES version of Turtles in Time is even now the standard by which all TMNT games are judged. Especially in terms of music, it can't be beaten. Hyperstone Heist, they say, is more challenging, and I can see where they're coming from. As fate would have it, I only have a SEGA Genesis between the two main 16-bit consoles, so I've been playing Hyperstone Heist more than Turtles in Time, lately.

Also, the animations in Hyperstone Heist are jerky.

Genesis 07-07-2012 09:00 PM

As gorgeous as Genesis games could be, it could never match the crispness of the SNES's animations.

Shreddhead 07-07-2012 11:04 PM

Fact: both of these games are two of the best TMNT games to grace home consoles. But I have to say that I enjoy Turtles in Time better. I love some of the boss fights from Hyperstone, the fact that they include Tatsu is AWESOME! But like others have said, Time just feels crisper. Mix that with the fact that you could hurl Foot Soldiers out of the tv makes Turtles in Time the winner.

pannoni1 07-09-2012 09:58 AM

Having never played Hyperstone Heist by watching the videos, I enjoy Turtles In Time better. Having only four levels makes the storyline too short in HH, and leaves you with only a few bosses. Having the concept of three acts (Present, Past, and Future) helps makes Turtles In Time more interesting, and not just for throwing Foot Soldiers at Shredder's camera in the Technodrome! You can also adjust the difficulty too in TMNT IV to pace yourself.

dragonside 07-11-2012 10:13 PM

Turtles in time for sure. Never had a genesis, but seeing the youtube videos. haha. ahhh sighhh good ol' snes.

oldmanwinters 07-11-2012 10:59 PM

I never understood why people thought the Genesis game was harder. As a kid, I owned that one exclusively and played it quite a bit. The boss patterns are much simpler than those found in the SNES counterpart and the Foot Soldiers are fairly passive compared to the AI in the NES games.

Donnie 07-11-2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 968170)
I never understood why people thought the Genesis game was harder. As a kid, I owned that one exclusively and played it quite a bit. The boss patterns are much simpler than those found in the SNES counterpart and the Foot Soldiers are fairly passive compared to the AI in the NES games.

This. I love Hyperstone Heist because I was a Genesis kid (I still hook it up sometimes and play it) but Turtles in Time is superior. And tougher.

DonatelloDomeHead31 07-13-2012 11:47 AM

Turtles in Time (SNES)= better music

Hyperstone Heist (Genesis)=horrible music

Turtles in Time (SNES)=better graphics/storyline

Hyperstone Heist (Genesis)-Not so good graphics/OK Storyline

Enough said....

oldmanwinters 07-13-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by donatello28 (Post 969055)

Hyperstone Heist (Genesis)-Not so good graphics/OK Storyline

I'll at least stick up for the Genny on the graphics. The colors weren't as vivid as the SNES game, but the sprites themselves were very detailed, even moreso than the SNES counterparts. They made good use of shading and textures. And the intro movie and endings were more impressive than SNES presentation, IMO.

The lack of the Foot Soldier screen throw was really perplexing, however. Contrary to prevailing internet opinion, that had nothing tdo do with Mode 7. It must have just been Konami's lazy decision not to include a couple of extra Foot Soldier sprites to create that effect.

donatello_tmnt 07-14-2012 01:36 AM

having never played hyperstone heist, i'm gonna have to go with turtles in time

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 07-14-2012 04:46 AM

Turtles in Time
 
Turtles in Time

GK Punk 07-14-2012 04:51 AM

I always liked both games equally. I'm gonna vote for Hyperstone Heist though just because I know it's not going to get as much love as In Time.

oldmanwinters 07-14-2012 08:04 AM

Here's a pretty good comparison Sega-16 did a while back:
http://www.sega-16.com/2010/01/side-...nesis-vs-snes/

Even though it's a Sega fan-site, they rightfully gave the advantage to Turtles in Time, but with a fair breakdown of the differences and relative strengths of each game.

shihe 07-19-2012 03:22 PM

As much of a SEGA fanboy as I am...


Turtles in Time. It just has:

Better animations.
Better instrumentations of the songs
The better villain roster (Slash, Tokka, Razhar > Tatsu, Rocksteady 2)
Off screening foot soldiers move.

And it's time-travelling aspect is just a lot more epic.

I love Hypestone Heist, though. It's really addictive, but Turtles in Time is hands down just the superior game. Hyperstone Heist however can be the 2nd best Turtles game of all time. :D


What I like, however, about hyperstone heist, is the running by pressing a button mechanic. Not hating on the double-tapping, but it just felt better to me.

Also, who here is a fan of the "COMIC" style for Turtle colors?

oldmanwinters 07-19-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shihe (Post 973409)

Also, who here is a fan of the "COMIC" style for Turtle colors?

Yeah, I always set the colors to COMIC mode before I played... even though the Turtles never looked like that in any of their comics available at the time. They might as well just called it "TOYS" but I guess "Comic" sounded a lot more gritty!

DonatelloDomeHead31 07-21-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 969537)
The lack of the Foot Soldier screen throw was really perplexing, however. Contrary to prevailing internet opinion, that had nothing tdo do with Mode 7. It must have just been Konami's lazy decision not to include a couple of extra Foot Soldier sprites to create that effect.

I remember in the Genesis Hyperstone Heist that the only foot "humor" the turtles did was the beating on the ground left and right. the turtle would hold the foot soldier's arm and throw them back and forth.

I agree they didn't have the screen throw. What animation could Genesis have used to replace it?

FoxZerro 08-21-2012 10:16 AM

Wow 26 to 3, I almost feel bad having voted for Turtles in Time, but having Tatsu in your game is unfortunately not enough to make you the better of the two. I think the big problem with Hyperstone Heist was the difficulty, I was used to Turtle games frustrating me, but me and my pal PJ at age 7 rented and beat Hyperstone first try

shuriken 08-21-2012 11:06 AM

Never understood why they didn't just port Turtles in Time to the Genesis. Actually liked the controls in HH better, but it's not as fun as Turtles in Time.

Xav 08-21-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxZerro (Post 986516)
Wow 26 to 3, I almost feel bad having voted for Turtles in Time, but having Tatsu in your game is unfortunately not enough to make you the better of the two. I think the big problem with Hyperstone Heist was the difficulty, I was used to Turtle games frustrating me, but me and my pal PJ at age 7 rented and beat Hyperstone first try

Turtles in Time wasn't very hard either.

ComicBookBoy 08-21-2012 03:02 PM

Turtles in Time will always be one of my favorite games. I used to play it with my brothers all of the time.

Victorsaurus 10-08-2012 09:37 AM

I voted for Turtles in Time.

Jester 02-07-2015 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 973453)
Yeah, I always set the colors to COMIC mode before I played... even though the Turtles never looked like that in any of their comics available at the time. They might as well just called it "TOYS" but I guess "Comic" sounded a lot more gritty!

Maybe they meant "Random House Children's Books." :P

I vote Turtles in Time, if only because it's the only one I actually played as a kid, as we were a Nintendo family and not a Genesis one. If I ever find a decently priced copy, I'm gonna own it.

Hooray for Necroposting.

oldmanwinters 02-07-2015 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1417682)

Hooray for Necroposting.

Woah... this old debate surfaces again?


I can honestly say I enjoy both games, although if you have both handy, I think it's likely one would always play the SNES version unless curiosity compels one to check out the Genny differences. The Tatsu boss fight is definitely fun on Sega, but the boss rehashing in "The Gauntlet" stage is a letdown. You actually fight Rocksteady twice but never Bebop!

Leo656 02-07-2015 01:23 PM

I always wanted to check Hyperstone out. Like Jester, we were an SNES household, but it sounds like I didn't miss much. One time I crashed at my tag partner's place and he had it, but we were on a tight schedule and had no time to mess with it. Totally gonna pick it up for the hell of it one day, though.

oldmanwinters 02-07-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1417852)
I always wanted to check Hyperstone out. Like Jester, we were an SNES household, but it sounds like I didn't miss much. One time I crashed at my tag partner's place and he had it, but we were on a tight schedule and had no time to mess with it. Totally gonna pick it up for the hell of it one day, though.

Hyperstone Heist does have more detailed intro and ending (Hard mode, at least) cinematics, in my opinion. Nothing like watching Super Shredder take a dive into the pavement with some strategic censorship via a cut away at the end. :tlol:

ShredIt 02-10-2015 03:12 PM

turtles in time

Redeemer 02-11-2015 08:27 PM

The voting is extremely one-sided. :lol:

STORMSHADOW__210 02-23-2015 10:32 PM

I recently played this for the first time and loved it. The game looks fantastic in HD with my retron 5. I really like how the levels are longer than turtles in time.

CowabungaMikey 03-01-2015 09:49 AM

I've never played Hyperstone Heist, but Turtles in Time is my all-time favourite SNES / TMNT game.

TigerClaw 03-01-2015 12:45 PM

Turtles in Time wins by a land slide, Its a no brainer, People remember it more then Hyperstone Heist, Because they remembered playing it at the Arcade long before it was ported to the SNES.

Prowler 05-03-2015 03:18 AM

Turtles in Time was a lot better. Hyperstone Heist was a poorman's version of it with the levels being less interesting. It was also harder and more frustrating. That Gauntlet level where you have to face the Leatherhead, Rocsteady and Tatsu all over again, and this time twice as strong, was a pain. And why were we facing Tastu when we had just beat him in the previous level?!

Andrew NDB 05-03-2015 03:21 AM

They're the same game. Or really any of the Konami games.

CyberCubed 05-03-2015 12:42 PM

This was a weird time in the industry where instead of companies porting the same game to multiple consoles like they do now, they made "console exclusive" versions of a similar game with different levels.

Its odd some third party games that came out on the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis was so different from each other. Nowadays they just release the same content on all systems.

Prowler 05-04-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1453060)
This was a weird time in the industry where instead of companies porting the same game to multiple consoles like they do now, they made "console exclusive" versions of a similar game with different levels.

Its odd some third party games that came out on the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis was so different from each other. Nowadays they just release the same content on all systems.

And there were even cases of the same game being developed by two different companies for each console. Alladin's SNES version was made by Capcom, whilst the Genesis version was made by Virgin Interactive, the same company that had made The Lion King game.

I guess game ports by the same company stopped being different due to owners of a certain console not feeling excluded or disfavored. Things are fairer these days.

87tmntfan 05-28-2015 12:10 PM

I like hyperstone better. But don'tlike that they used tatsu for a boss.


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