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CyberCubed 07-15-2012 08:49 PM

With all the OT influence, is it safe to say Baxter will be mutated into a fly?
 
The Nick show apparently has more OT influence then originally expected, with Dimension X, Traag, etc. all apparently showing up.

I believe Baxter will do the usual mouser and robot suit routine for the first half of Season 1, and then in the second half he'll be turned into a mutant fly.

I think Baxter would look awesome in CG in his mutated form too.

Zany Orange Dude 07-15-2012 08:50 PM

Hm... I don't think they'll turn Baxter into a mutant fly, but that's just me.:ohwell:

Allio 07-15-2012 08:51 PM

eh....

Considering that was one of the weakest points in the 87 series, I hope not

Lethal Lullaby 07-15-2012 08:52 PM

Hmm. I kinds hope not either. :ohwell:

CyberCubed 07-15-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio (Post 971014)
eh....

Considering that was one of the weakest points in the 87 series, I hope not

You thought that was one of the weakest point of the OT? Are you joking? Baxter being a fly was one of the most popular aspects of the series.

Jester 07-15-2012 08:54 PM

I could see Fly Baxter as a punishment...if Baxter works for Shredder.

What if Baxter works with April's father? What if he is set up BY Baxter? You know, Baxter is the guy behind helping the Kraang abduct him.

CyberCubed 07-15-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 971019)
I could see Fly Baxter as a punishment...if Baxter works for Shredder.

What if Baxter works with April's father? What if he is set up BY Baxter? You know, Baxter is the guy behind helping the Kraang abduct him.

Well where would the mutagen come from? Its almost always supplied by Krang, the Utroms or Dimension X.

rufus 07-15-2012 08:58 PM

Fly Baxter would be cool to see again. I would love to see if he was a fly cyborg though if something was to happen to him.

Jester 07-15-2012 08:59 PM

Isn't the Kraang/Shredder connection still intact in this series?

Mr.Turtle 07-15-2012 09:00 PM

he who lives like a fly deserves to be merged with a fly....

CyberCubed 07-15-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 971026)
Isn't the Kraang/Shredder connection still intact in this series?

I think so, but you said Baxter would work for April's dad rather than Shredder.

On that note since in IDW Baxter works for Krang, I can see something similar here.

Mr.Turtle 07-15-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rufus (Post 971023)
Fly Baxter would be cool to see again. I would love to see if he was a fly cyborg though if something was to happen to him.

shud be FlyBaxter... since they r merged.

Cowabunga Carl 07-15-2012 09:04 PM

I don't know about the whole fly aspect of the character. It just seems like it has been done. Just like I don't want to see him become a cyborg again.

Jester 07-15-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 971030)
I think so, but you said Baxter would work for April's dad rather than Shredder.

On that note since in IDW Baxter works for Krang, I can see something similar here.

In my brain, I assume he works with Mr. O'Neil, kinda undercover, and is really working for the Kraang.

Zany Orange Dude 07-15-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 971038)
In my brain, I assume he works with Mr. O'Neil, kinda undercover, and is really working for the Kraang.

That's a cool theory, Jester.:tcool: How do you do it?:twink:

Mr.Turtle 07-15-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 971037)
I don't know about the whole fly aspect of the character. It just seems like it has been done. Just like I don't want to see him become a cyborg again.

i think they just simply want to c him merged with a fly coz he's like a fly, u kno.

sdp 07-15-2012 09:11 PM

I'd hope so, Fly Baxter was one of the best things the OT came up with, while his tragedy of becoming a robot is alright, I much prefer the mutation angle. A nice transition is while trying to re-create his body he accidentally merges with a fly.

Newton Gimmick 07-15-2012 09:45 PM

I hope so. So long as he looks cool and sort of in the spirit of the old toon and not some crazy reinterpretation that removes the core essence of the concept.

Galactus 07-15-2012 09:53 PM

There's significantly less OT influence than I assumed there'd be. I don't think it's a given he'll become a fly.

Mr.Turtle 07-15-2012 10:18 PM

he d look more funny than cool in a fly suit lmao!

Cowabunga Carl 07-15-2012 10:54 PM

I'm surprised that people want there to be as much OT as there is. I mean IDW seems pretty OT oriented and this looks to be aimed in the same direction. I'd like to see this be its own beast. I mean of course it can't ever be fully because it is coming after the original run of turtlemania. What if Baxter just stayed human? Would that be so bad?

Genesis 07-15-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob
I'm surprised that people want there to be as much OT as there is... I'd like to see this be its own beast.

Quoted for Truth.

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Originally Posted by Old Hob
What if Baxter just stayed human? Would that be so bad?

Absolutely not.

CyberCubed 07-15-2012 11:19 PM

Baxter staying human is incredibly boring. He's just a generic mad scientist until something terrible happens to him.

Genesis 07-15-2012 11:26 PM

I used to feel that way, too. I mainly knew Baxter as a fly when I was a kid, so seeing and thinking of him as human felt weird to me. Over time, especially after getting into Eastman and Laird's comics and absolutely loving his 2003 incarnation, my preference has changed.

He still is at his core a character on whom horrible misfortune befalls, so I get where you're coming from. I just think that it doesn't always need to be the fly mutation.

Cowabunga Carl 07-15-2012 11:28 PM

I just don't see the appeal of having the exact same thing happen again. I mean if I read a book and love it I don't want the next book to just be the same but with a new title.

Baxter hasn't ever been able to just be human. I say it is time we just let him be this time around.

CyberCubed 07-15-2012 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 971139)
I just don't see the appeal of having the exact same thing happen again. I mean if I read a book and love it I don't want the next book to just be the same but with a new title.

Baxter hasn't ever been able to just be human. I say it is time we just let him be this time around.

Because its a staple of the character. Would you rather Baxter get mutated into some other type of mutant? I'd say hell no. We don't need Baxter to become a mutant Lion or gorilla or something.

Since we already know Baxter wears cyborg armor to fight the turtles, it seems like we could get both incarnations here. He wears robot armor to battle the Turtles for awhile and could get mutated into a fly later on.

Cowabunga Carl 07-15-2012 11:37 PM

My point is though that he doesn't need to mutate or lose his body until he becomes a cyborg. He could just be a normal guy. I don't know why people are so keen on doing the same thing over and over.

Take The Dark Knight and Batman. Both had the Joker and did their own thing with the character. It wasn't just a carbon copy. That's what makes both of them great.

Jester 07-15-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 971142)
Take The Dark Knight and Batman. Both had the Joker and did their own thing with the character. It wasn't just a carbon copy. That's what makes both of them great.

True, but there is still things that make the character the character, and sadly part of what makes Baxter Baxter is a tragic disfigurement.

Cowabunga Carl 07-15-2012 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 971144)
True, but there is still things that make the character the character, and sadly part of what makes Baxter Baxter is a tragic disfigurement.

Yeah I know, but I'd like to see him just be Baxter for a while. We don't need him to mutate him in the first season. Maybe it would be great to just let him develop a little before he is tragically disfigured.

Jester 07-15-2012 11:54 PM

It would help the tragic disfigurement all the more tragic.

Cowabunga Carl 07-16-2012 12:00 AM

it would be cool maybe if he started to have a change or hart and then something happened to him. Like he gets disfigured while trying to save the Turtles.

Jester 07-16-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 971154)
it would be cool maybe if he started to have a change or hart and then something happened to him. Like he gets disfigured while trying to save the Turtles.

And thus blames them for his tragic disfigurement?

Sorry, it just reminds me of Lost Skeleton of Cadavera.

Cowabunga Carl 07-16-2012 12:15 AM

Not blame them, but maybe they blame themselves and he still joins them. That maybe they try to find a cure for him.

Genesis 07-16-2012 12:23 AM

I'm hoping for a more developed rivalry between Baxter and Donatello. Simple as a concept, but I've never felt it was properly explored.

Cowabunga Carl 07-16-2012 12:29 AM

Yes exactly. Having them have a rivalry would be great. It would be kind of cool if they had a mutual respect for each other before discovering they are enemies.

Jester 07-16-2012 12:32 AM

I dunna....I mean, a man with an assumed doctorate and a teenage mutant prodigy doesn't seem like a gripping rivalry.

Allio 07-16-2012 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 971017)
You thought that was one of the weakest point of the OT? Are you joking? Baxter being a fly was one of the most popular aspects of the series.

Sorry, I just didn't like it


of course, I felt that his episodes were repetitive any way...but whatever...

I say give the next Baxter a new gimmick...

Cowabunga Carl 07-16-2012 12:37 AM

Merge him with Bebop ;-)

Genesis 07-16-2012 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Hob (Post 971170)
Merge him with Bebop ;-)

Haha, or plant his brain into Metalhead, so he can be another "Turtle."

Cowabunga Carl 07-16-2012 12:49 AM

Make him what he hates.


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