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demoman 11-19-2012 05:18 PM
anyone else loving how realistic this Donnie interacts with technology?
 
Anyone else loving how realistic the nickelodeon Donnie interacts with technology, as if he's just a guy in a basement with internet access?

yet another massive thumbs up for this version of the turtles. cred to ciro neril?

examples:

- being massively confused by alien computer interface

- making low-tech stuff like ninja claws and flash powder eggs

- metalhead looking kind of hacked together

- laptop made from exposed, scrap parts

- NOT making ultratech bulls*t like hovercrafts and time machines (ala 4kids)

Cure 11-19-2012 05:21 PM
The fact he made Metalhead at all kind of negates your point.

demoman 11-19-2012 05:23 PM
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The fact he made Metalhead at all kind of negates your point.
at least they showed that he had to take a kraang bot first, and that it breaks when a crap little antenna snaps off.

also, all the other low-tech examples remain.

BlueLightning 11-19-2012 05:36 PM
Sorry but, when does 2k3 Donnie built a time machine?

EDIT: Fast Forward, I'm sorry. Continue.

DOUBLE EDIT: Checked, and it was Cody who built the Time Window and Donnie helped to repair it with future technology.

chrisdude 11-19-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueLightning (Post 1023810)
Sorry but, when does 2k3 Donnie built a time machine?

EDIT: Fast Forward, I'm sorry. Continue.
I'm sorry.
But I laughed pretty hard.
It shouldn't be funny. It's the way you corrected it.

Candy Kappa 11-20-2012 12:50 AM
The Tpod is very low tech indeed

Luzmagica 11-20-2012 12:54 AM
^I love :tlove: also the T-phone!!!!!! :tgrin:

pannoni1 11-20-2012 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 1023907)
^I love :tlove: also the T-phone!!!!!! :tgrin:
In 1987, the Turtle Comm was quite futuristic; nowadays, its a pretty typical invention for the time. I also like how Don doesn't break everything he makes like in the OT, and in New Friend, Old Enemy, seemed to understand well how to use the Facebook spoof.

Coola Yagami 11-20-2012 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1023947)
In 1987, the Turtle Comm was quite futuristic; nowadays, its a pretty typical invention for the time. I also like how Don doesn't break everything he makes like in the OT, and in New Friend, Old Enemy, seemed to understand well how to use the Facebook spoof.
So nowadays we have portable devices with little screens that show who we're talking to? Did the latest i-phone include a mini-skype I didn't heard about?

BlueLightning 11-20-2012 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1023811)
I'm sorry.
But I laughed pretty hard.
It shouldn't be funny. It's the way you corrected it.
Haha! :lol:

TurtleMaster4 11-20-2012 12:53 PM
Yea, I like the Idea of him notknowing everything. Makes him a bit more relateable!

Candy Kappa 11-20-2012 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1024012)
So nowadays we have portable devices with little screens that show who we're talking to? Did the latest i-phone include a mini-skype I didn't heard about?
we could have, if screen phones got popular. :lol:

Andrew NDB 11-20-2012 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1023804)
The fact he made Metalhead at all kind of negates your point.
Yeah, this pretty much invalidates this whole thread.

Toby Barrett 11-20-2012 01:25 PM
I preferred the way the original film did it, where Donnie was more of a grease monkey mechanic.

TheSkeletonMan939 11-20-2012 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by demoman (Post 1023803)
- NOT making ultratech bulls*t like hovercrafts and time machines (ala 4kids)
He never made a time machine. And the HoverShell was built with help from a stolen Utrom vehicle. Actually, Donny's tech for the most part was pretty down to earth.

zodiac brave 11-20-2012 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1024012)
So nowadays we have portable devices with little screens that show who we're talking to?
yep. i've used skype on a cell phone. full face to face n everything.

Cure 11-20-2012 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1024012)
So nowadays we have portable devices with little screens that show who we're talking to? Did the latest i-phone include a mini-skype I didn't heard about?
...where have you been?

zodiac brave 11-20-2012 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1023804)
The fact he made Metalhead at all kind of negates your point.
i dunno...people tend to take all the stuff bruce wayne/batman and lucius fox did in the dark knight (and arguably the whole dark knight trilogy) as fairly realistic, when it's actually totally not.

its in the execution for me. yes, he built a robot he could control with an nes, but the way it was written relative to the reality/fantasy context of the nick tmnt universe, it WAS pretty realistic.

he's a teenager who created his own i-pod and i-phone, not, as others have mentioned, a million crazy futuristic totally impossible inventions.

plus, he uses pretty "realistic" techno-babble.

Lampy 11-21-2012 12:13 AM
does anyone find it weird though that he knows how to make all this crap and knows all this tech jargon but didn't know what a pizza was?
oh and i don't think realistic would be the best word to describe his handle on tech. the ninja claws and egg shell smoke bombs... yes. but i find it hard to think that donnie (who has been underground with no previous exposure to alien tech, reading only the few books he has in the lair and maybe some shows on tv) is able to create a working android from a damaged kraang exosuit. reverse engineering would be nearly impossible. and the tpod too. how did he know how to hack into a satellite for songs. the dude has been sheltered for nearly his whole life.

Bjarni 11-27-2012 10:26 PM
I also like the IDW Donnie who seems similar when he creates machines.

Donnie is always god-tier when it comes to "doing machines" but I think they are at least taking a fake and fictional realistic approach to it all as well as showcasing the limited amount of technology he actually has at his bay.

Andrew NDB 11-27-2012 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zodiac brave (Post 1024194)
i dunno...people tend to take all the stuff bruce wayne/batman and lucius fox did in the dark knight (and arguably the whole dark knight trilogy) as fairly realistic, when it's actually totally not.
Actually it actually totally is. Nolan went to a lot of trouble to only introduce tech that was either existing right now or on its way to being a reality in 5 years.

But that's Batman. Who's got billions of dollars to throw at new and up and coming tech. Who had the best education money can buy. Who traveled the world for years and learned from the best minds alive.

We're talking about Donatello, who grew up in a sewer cut off from... you know, everything.

zodiac brave 11-27-2012 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1026520)
We're talking about Donatello, who grew up in a sewer cut off from... you know, everything.
and is also a teenage mutant ninja turtle.

suspension of disbelief allows for some awesome stuff.

Bjarni 11-27-2012 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1026520)
Actually it actually totally is. Nolan went to a lot of trouble to only introduce tech that was either existing right now or on its way to being a reality in 5 years.
Oh God, I still hated that Dark Knight ending. I know everything he did is actually currently being done by the US Surveillance units but I was still highly unhappy with it. For some reason, I wanted Batman to be more of a DETECTIVE. And actually use his SKILLS to uncover evidence 'n stuff...

Also the added drama of Lucius quitting because he thought what they were doing was immoral was lost in the third film, with Batman quitting right after Lucius and both of them joining forces as soon as the movie starts.

Coro 11-28-2012 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1024012)
So nowadays we have portable devices with little screens that show who we're talking to? Did the latest i-phone include a mini-skype I didn't heard about?
Yeah actually it did....its called facetime.

DERP

BlueLightning 11-28-2012 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjarni (Post 1026523)
Oh God, I still hated that Dark Knight ending. I know everything he did is actually currently being done by the US Surveillance units but I was still highly unhappy with it. For some reason, I wanted Batman to be more of a DETECTIVE. And actually use his SKILLS to uncover evidence 'n stuff...
He did have the skills, maybe not in the level of comic book Batman, but more realistic. The scene where he is naming the cops while trying to save Mr. Reese comes to mind.

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Also the added drama of Lucius quitting because he thought what they were doing was immoral was lost in the third film, with Batman quitting right after Lucius and both of them joining forces as soon as the movie starts.
Are you impliying that Lucius quit in the second film? He didn't, his faith was rewarded because Bruce wired the machine to self destruct once Lucius typed his name. But maybe I read your post wrong.

Alas, Donnie and technology, lets hope we see the development of the Shell Raise, should be fun.

Bjarni 11-28-2012 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueLightning (Post 1026637)
He did have the skills, maybe not in the level of comic book Batman
Yeah, there were little things that got to me. Like the ending to the Dark Knight Rises. For someone that has the title of the World's Greatest Detective, I felt embarrassed for him when he was beating up Bane and claiming that he was able to get out of the pit by himself and Bane is all like "What are you talking about, man?"
I understand what Nolan was going for with his Talia reveal, but for me personally, it just made Bruce look incredibly stupid and more of a brute than an intelligent rational thinking person.

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Originally Posted by BlueLightning (Post 1026637)
Are you impliying that Lucius quit in the second film? He didn't, his faith was rewarded because Bruce wired the machine to self destruct once Lucius typed his name.
I totally misunderstood that scene then. Lucius of course says that he can't be a part of this and I thought that it was Lucius himself that was making the system self destruct as the last thing he did with the Batman. He says right before Batman goes after the Joker that this is the last thing he will do for him.
It's been awhile since I saw the movie, but if the audience was suppose to understand that Lucius decided not to quit, the indication wasn't as clear as I would have wanted it to be. Maybe they should have cut the whole "I'm quitting after this" speech if he was going to change his mind right away...

Andrew NDB 11-28-2012 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjarni (Post 1026650)
I totally misunderstood that scene then. Lucius of course says that he can't be a part of this and I thought that it was Lucius himself that was making the system self destruct
You're the only person I've ever heard of that's got that out of the scene.

Coro 11-28-2012 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjarni (Post 1026650)
Yeah, there were little things that got to me. Like the ending to the Dark Knight Rises. For someone that has the title of the World's Greatest Detective, I felt embarrassed for him when he was beating up Bane and claiming that he was able to get out of the pit by himself and Bane is all like "What are you talking about, man?"
I understand what Nolan was going for with his Talia reveal, but for me personally, it just made Bruce look incredibly stupid and more of a brute than an intelligent rational thinking person.


I totally misunderstood that scene then. Lucius of course says that he can't be a part of this and I thought that it was Lucius himself that was making the system self destruct as the last thing he did with the Batman. He says right before Batman goes after the Joker that this is the last thing he will do for him.
It's been awhile since I saw the movie, but if the audience was suppose to understand that Lucius decided not to quit, the indication wasn't as clear as I would have wanted it to be. Maybe they should have cut the whole "I'm quitting after this" speech if he was going to change his mind right away...
GO back and re-watch it....

The line is "as long as this machine exists I will no longer work for Wayne Enterprises"....
Batman says "when your done type in your name"

At the end of the movie he does this and it explodes....therefore he still works for Wayne.

It was plenty clear and I think you are in the minority on this one.

BlueLightning 11-28-2012 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Bjarni (Post 1026650)
Yeah, there were little things that got to me. Like the ending to the Dark Knight Rises. For someone that has the title of the World's Greatest Detective, I felt embarrassed for him when he was beating up Bane and claiming that he was able to get out of the pit by himself and Bane is all like "What are you talking about, man?"
I understand what Nolan was going for with his Talia reveal, but for me personally, it just made Bruce look incredibly stupid and more of a brute than an intelligent rational thinking person.
The thing is, how does being physically defeated equalls to be intellectually defeated. That has nothing to do with the Pit, or the fact that Bane believed that he had broken Bruce in its enterity. It was more Bane's arrogance to believe that he was better than Bruce. Bane couldn't get out of the Pit, Bruce could.

I'm sorry for the offtopicness, that's the last thing I will say about this topic... on this thread.

Bjarni 11-28-2012 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Coro (Post 1026654)
GO back and re-watch it....

The line is "as long as this machine exists I will no longer work for Wayne Enterprises"....
Batman says "when your done type in your name"

At the end of the movie he does this and it explodes....therefore he still works for Wayne.

It was plenty clear and I think you are in the minority on this one.
It seems clear to me now. When I saw the scene, I thought Wayne wanted him to write in his name not to destroy the system, but basically to resign from Wayne Enterprises. Like, that's the last thing you do before you quit.

And I actually thought that Lucius was the one destroying it, not Wayne.
I thought it was all part of that gloomy ending of everything falling apart.

My bad.

Bjarni 11-28-2012 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueLightning (Post 1026688)
The thing is, how does being physically defeated equalls to be intellectually defeated.
He was intellectually defeated because he actually thought Bane was Talia.
Instead of doing some detective work, he just goes screaming and punching people. I felt bad for him because of his arrogance. Bane gets this look on his face when Batman is yelling at him about stuff that never happened to Bane. It's awkward.

That and not figuring out that the Bane thing was a trap in the earlier scene. I excused it as him being out of the game for 8 years and being over competent and just wanting to get Bane and being totally unprepared. But I wouldn't have mind seeing him use other skills than brute force when he returns to Gotham. He does some light shows and stuff, but he still had no idea what was going on because all of his information came from people just telling him what had happened instead of him acting like a detective.
But that's just my opinion. I like a lot of things in the Nolan films but not Nolan and Bale's interpretation of Batman. Their Bruce Wayne is great, however.

Utromshredderhater 11-29-2012 04:01 PM
Well it's then when 2k3 Donnie kept ridiculously lucking into Future/alien tech


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