TMNT Figure Collectors Behaviours
 

So i saw this post here:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...t=40490&page=2

and it got me thinking. I am not saying that the guy is 100% without guilt but he got some points there.
I am a member on Technodrome for awhile now and honestly i can say that i always thought that TMNT Fanbase is like a big family.
But looking from the distance it is not. And i wonder why.
We all collect TMNT (also other) toys and we should stick together right?
But there are plenty of ocasions where all i can see is disouraging new members by older members. Why is that?

Let's say a guy has a question right? Good luck with browsing in hundred of threads for an anserw (also SEARCH is not so good at searching).
So he decide to ask a question in new thread.
Is it so hard to just give him an anserw and them moderate/delete thread?
I don't think so. Just simple anserw and that's all. That is how you build a fanbase. But here it's ussualy opposite.
The guy is instantly bashed because

A: wrong section
B: there is thread like that etc.

And that is cool right?

Also at the same time look at me.
Am i worse than you Americans because I come from poor country?
I dont think so, i am sure that i love TMNT same as you love them.
But i still need to deal with some issues.
People will not anserw my PM, people will ignore my questions in threads etc. Not all the times of course but still it happens.
But i am still here cause i believe in fandom.

I think what i want to say is guys/girls just chill out sometimes.
This are only plastic toys and this is only internet forum.
It does not cost you much to be a nice person.

I've seen the same actions/reactions on many different toy forums. Honestly I think the only time I've seen an entire forum mix well and not have ego issues is when it's a small group (say 10-20 guys)

It's just one of the evils of the internet :)

Well, you know...it's the internet.

i don't know man
i agree with your point, but your example was not the best, the guy was not the most polite and after the animosity begin he seemed to enjoy it

I am not defending him.
He's only one of many examples.
Yes, maybe not the best one, my bad.
But still... he wrote:

"....and from what I understand from some of my private messages, some of these guys have been this way to others which is sad.
People have private messaged me to not be discouraged off of this forum, that 'everyone isn't all bad', so apparently I'm not alone here. "

And sadly I know he is telling thruth cause shortly after i joined drome i had similar situation.
Some dromers called me stupid because i had a different opinion on some stupid detail while others send me a PM where they said something like
"Get used to it, it's normal here".
Soooo....i just think that it's not cool to behave like that.

Team Red/Team color
I love/I hate nick TMNT
MIB/Loose are better

Stuff like this. In the end what's the difference.
We should be kind to each other.

Sorry....it's christmas spirit or something in my mind :P

sad to say but it is normal to find quite a few ass holes on toy/fan forums throughout the web. there are lots of people who don't amount to spit in real life, so they have to try and prove otherwise in their little sim-life. i've seen worse on other boards. for the record, i don't believe someone giving their honest opinion, however blunt it may be, is a jerk. honesty is a good thing. we all have opinions and we all post our stuff here on the web to gather feedback and provide it for others. so if you ask a question and you got an honest answer that you didn't really like...well...you asked the question. the trolls are the few who provide tactless, tasteless remarks that really have no fruitful benefit. they just say something to rile someone else up and they will keep replying and replying and replying just to stoke the fire.

i guess it kinda fits under internet rule #33 Lurk Moar ?

i'm not good with forums (i don't tend to stick) but i wanted to register to technodrome for a very specific reason, that is talking with people that are more nitpicky that just discussing/showing tmnt in facebook for example (another reason was ^^^^plastic's lawson mike)

what happens i think is that when you have a large group of people, some start mimicking behavior without understanding it, so people being nitpicky or sarcastic spread to other people as just being impolite and create this mass of potential a$$holes

it's human behavior

but i find it nice that you cry out for people to pay attention and not go auto against each other, and remember we like the same stuff, some more deeply, others more superficially

i, for one, would love to pretend that i like the Turtles from mirage comics best, but i first knew them on the cartoon, and back in the day had only read the first issue, and nowadays, i would say i like the comics first run and do not feel they are so dark and grounded as many believe (not everything is in the city like the first movie, they go quite heavy metal-ish, other dimensions and stuff quite early)

but then i see i'm diverging from the subject as usual

citing from a non-tmnt source,Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure (we're allowed to like other stuff, right?) : "Be excellent to each other" :twink:

That's being kinda ridiculous, though. You're saying people shouldn't have opinions, it seems.

hehehehe, i was just gonna quote powder
on a thread about a college humor video on krang, i went and said "we, the tmnt obsessed know it can all be explained by ultroms"
which he corrected me "and we, the REAL obsessed know it's UTROMS" or something in the likes of
i found that actually pretty cool, he corrected me, made fun of me but also made fun of himself, and it made me pay attention and read the thing i've been reading wrong for ages
but my opinion on this (cause arguably powder started the flame on that thread - which i do not believe it's true - the guy affirmed a statement he was not certain and cherried on it with "homey") is that i think people with millions of posts talk fast and short, with a lot of room for misinterpretation - both sides - instead of writing those gigantic texts no one wants to read and still be terrible at explaining myself.

anyway, about that ^^^ i think he means that regardless of opinion, people should not throw rocks at each other and just be cool with people enjoying best whatever they choose

What it comes down to is, some people enjoy knowing more than others and being obnoxious about it and also get some sort of kick out of acting like they are superior than others in the forum.

I think it is a normal reaction for people in a group to test others who want to join the group. You will likely not get answers to questions until people get to know you. As much as we like helping other collectors, it takes a long time to develop knowledge, and people have to get to know you before passing on the tribal knowledge.

No, what i am saying is that you can like red bandanas more or you can
prefer to collect MIBs and I totally respect that even if I prefer colored
bandanas or loose toys. In the end it is no important which opinion you have
as long as others are respecting it and are willing to discuss subject without
calling you an a**hole because of your opinion cause let's face it, in the end it
is just a drawing on a paper or a piece of plastic on a shelf so is it worth
to destroy your own nerves just to prove that your opinion is superior?

@JOEMOE:

"You will likely not get answers to questions until people get to know you.
As much as we like helping other collectors, it takes a long time to develop knowledge,
and people have to get to know you before passing on the tribal knowledge."

Yes...and NO (Splinter 2012) because either some of you still don't know me after more than year on drome
or some of you simple dont like me for whatever reason cause
I still feel ignored from time to time (not anserwed questions or PM's). :D
And you cannot say that i didn't bring something to the drome.

@grungethemovie:

"homie" - yeah, I saw that and I was like "Do they really talk like this in USA?"
I am from Europe so the only time i see somebody using "homie" word is in movies.
Honestly i dont know is it bad or not, maybe somebody can explain it more to me. Other than that, yes you are right.

" i think he means that regardless of opinion, people should not throw rocks at each other and just be cool with people enjoying best whatever they choose " - this is what I think we all should be like

Also thank you all for a reasonable discussion.
I enjoy my time on drome and majority of dromers
are very nice people so let's keep it this way ;)

...so if someone you just met (in real life) ask you something about your tmnt collection or generally about tmnt, you wouldnt feel compelled to share, because it took you a long time to learn?

How many thousands of posts do people need to deem their question worthy of answering lol

The search function works fine by me, I got no issues finding older threads.

and extremely poor thread example since the OP was the one being rude.

Honestly. I don't think any of the criticism fits the "old guards", it seems for of others that can't take some feedback that isn't rosy red. It's not rocket science to find the right section or see if there exist 5 other treads about one specific thing that in the end didn't really need it's own thread.

Hi, don't take it personally, people are just expressing their opinions. Your views and you yourself are just as important to the The Technodrome community, as anybody else.:tsmile:

Please, find for me a thread about He-Man/Turtles comic book if you don't know title of thread. Use Search option please.:)

Yes not the best example (i said it before, he just made me think).
Here is better example.
Can you or somebody else anserw my question from this post?
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...=4353&page=246
I see people talking there with no problems but no one cares to anserw
simple question when i want to knew something new to me.

So after 10 days with no anserw should i make a completly new thread
just to ask some stupid/small question? Or maybe I should just ask
my question in ASK A QUESTION thread? Wich is stupid typing the same thing
all over again. Probably yes because if I will make a new thread i am sure
there will be some internet guard saying this is not the place to ask
questions, there are threads for asking question.
You see my point now? :)

From the oposite side it is also not a big deal to anserw a simple question
and just delete thread right? Dude, there are people here with age way over 30 and also kids and teens between 12-16 i think.
Look at the guy under nick BAXTER STOCKMAN from Greece. Tell him that it is not rocket science to
use this or that if the guy beliefs that AUSTRIA=GERMANY or Bradford is a
real life person on FB. What I want to say is there are all kinds of people here.
And if something is obvious for you it does not mean that it will be obvious for everybody.
That is why i think there should be more friendship in post and not anger.

I'd say 99 percent of the time I try to be courteous unless the person I am talking to has proven to me that they are an ass. I'm pretty new as well, and although I don't think this place is perfect, I stuck around, and have realized that there are plenty of great people on here. As much as I'd love this board to be some kind of turtle utopia, I don't think it's going to happen. I think the important thing to think about and that a lot of people tend to forget (on the Internet in general) is that they are real people with real human emotions. The anonymynity sometimes gets to people.

On the other hand, I love some of the discussions that occur here, and sometimes they get heated because people are passionate about their opinion. I don't want that to change.

And lastly, the "picking" on people is fun when done in a light hearted manner. I know that if I ever dare to mistype raph on my phone due to autocorrect, I'm gonna hear about it, but I enjoy it so I also wouldn't change that.

"Who's Ralph? "

I think this happens quite a bit around here. Especially with new posters but also just in general sometimes. The General Video Game section for instance...I'm physically afraid to post in there.

I'm not big on many forums, but I'd say of all the ones I frequent this one is the most negative when it comes to being all around helpful to newbies. Don't get me wrong, lots of good info comes from this place as well. I guess I'm pointing more towards the general "attitude" of the place. In the end, though, I think this happens because of few members with large presenses and without their input (or a little less of it,) I think it'd be a friendlier place. But I guess you could say that about the world in general, and especially the Internet, and since I guess there's no way of making people nicer, then we all have to just deal with it.

Actually, I did respond to your question regarding metalhead, and then deleted the post just like you described. It was quite detailed. Shogun26 also provided two links for you to see the difference and then deleted her post.

And you deleted it because?
Not even knowing if I saw the response?
Because i did not.

I was refering do deleting new threads made by new members by moderators
for example. In this case, deleting your own anserw but leaving my question
looks odd and is leaving me feeling ignored because I simply would never
know that my question had been anserwed.:tgrin:

This thread?

Was nr2 on the list by thread searching using the keyword MOTU

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...highlight=MOTU

Not really sure what you are asking about in that thread, something about a Metalhead variant? Would have been better to elaborate on the question or make a question thread for the topic.

A challenge true, but not impossible.

When it comes to how to use the functions on a forum website, things should be obvious after trying things out (like the search function) it just requires people to care and actually do some research on their own and those who have problems navigating though a forum can go to the FAQ and learn.

Yes this one. Clever IF YOU KNOW that there is motu in the title.
Otherwise you will get 16 pages of search results that has nothing
to do with motu. And this is just an example but try to imagine someone
trying to find lets say a thread with funny pictures.
There was couple of months ago but i dont remember the title so what should i put in search window?
Funny pictures? TMNT- funny? It will not find anything.
Ok, maybe that's just my inability to properly use search function
but if I forgot thread title I have hard time finding it.

Not really sure what you don't understand. I asked a simple question.
Is the clear front window the only difference in this two variants. That's it.
And I think YES it is easier to ask THAT SIMPLE question in a single post
rather than starting a completly new thread where there be
1. My question 2. Anserw 3. EOT. :twink:

Have you ever tried to teach 60 year old woman to use a web forum?
Or even do something more than turning computer on?
I am 30 and believe me I can do my reaserch and most of the times
i can find anserws on my own.
But there are people here both younger and older than me/or/and you who are first of all from many other countries!
And yes they can use FAQ but also they have the right to ASK a question
and not beeing eaten because of it.
Inability to use some of forum functions does not equal that they don't care
or are not trying.

As a side note, good discussion, I can practice my english alot in this thread :D Thank you guys ;)
Also sorry for all language mistakes.

I have never seen that thread before, but searching is pretty easy trial and error. The first search word I used was He-Man and searched by post, then by thread. Then I changed to MOTU and searched by thread.

As for funny TMNT pictures, that's not very specific. Especially when I don't what thread you are talking about, is it about funny TMNT pictures or was there pictures you found funny in that thread, pictures from OT, 2k3, movie or nick, does it count for all versions of the TMNT?

You on the other hand know what thread it is and can do a search, narrow it down and check out the potential threads.

When people reacts negative on a double thread, it's usually a thread that is relative or have been used for a good while, not things that are obscure.

I usually opt to just ignore double post rather than gain +1 post telling them they're wrong.

Yes i supose you are right. That is why I AM ussualy trying to
find stuff on my one. I just wanted to point out that not everybody
have skills or patience to do so. That's why there are sometimes
people looking for an anserw that is already somewhere there.
Oh and i was referring to a thread where we all long time ago
had posts with some funny TMNT related pics (demotivator pictures etc).

This thread?

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...t=Motivational

Man you are good at this :D
Yes, thank you.