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ToTheNines 01-07-2013 08:37 AM

Is April human?
 
I know this sounds like a crazy conspiracy thread, but hear me out.

1. Her father is a scientist (first time in TMNT history), and his name in this show is Kirby (also a first in TMNT history).

2. Kirby's crystal is what created her in the Mirage books.

3. She apparently has no mother.

4. The creative team kept hinting about April being special in this series. While I guess they could have been referring to the whole "sensitive to universal vibrations" thing, it seemed like something bigger.

5. I could see this as their excuse to get around the Donatello romance thing.


I'm not saying I want this to be true, but I'm pretty suspicious. I've never heard Ciro say anything about being a fan of the Volume 4 books, but that doesn't mean he's not familiar with that "April is a drawing" storyline.

HugeBadWolf 01-07-2013 08:44 AM

Are you suggesting she could be something along the same lines as the annoying wee girl from the Transformers: Animated cartoon?
That would be an interesting direction for them to take. Unlikely, but interesting :)

Cheers,
Doug

zkarlette 01-07-2013 09:00 AM

I see what you mean there but I really,really,really hope this is not the case.

gobo 01-07-2013 09:10 AM

I'd be surprised. You might be onto something there, but I'd still be surprised.

Shark_Blade 01-07-2013 09:22 AM

This puts a whole new level of understanding how "Donatello does machine".

FoxZerro 01-07-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1039102)
This puts a whole new level of understanding how "Donatello does machine".

:tthumbsu: :tthumbsu:

I like this...

However, I do not like the thought that April might be something more or less than Human in the Nick Series. I've always felt it was the fact that she was the normal human that made her place in the Turtles family so special

Bauer536 01-07-2013 09:50 AM

See. These are the things that ruin the experience of enjoying the show.:tgrumble: Why do we always have to speculate like this? Now I know why Ciro left this forum. It just gets annoying.:trolleye:

Also, Shark_Blade - That is very funny. I like your joke.:tlol:

ToTheNines 01-07-2013 09:55 AM

How about you leave then?

Bauer536 01-07-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039112)
How about you leave then?

I'm not. I've got friends on here that I like to talk to.

Plus, I understand why the speculation, but it's just becoming ridiculous. Let's just be happy that this show is awesome and not some kind of trainwreck.:tcool:

Do I think about leaving some time? Absolutely. This place is hardly fun anymore.

Drose18 01-07-2013 10:29 AM

If it keeps her from becoming venus im fine with this.

Theli 01-07-2013 10:31 AM

I think it is fun and talking and speculation about topics i swhat keeps a community alive. Would you like better that nobody posts a thread and talk about anything? Dudes, this is a forum!! We are here to discuss things about our fandom !

Luzmagica 01-07-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by zkarlette (Post 1039096)
I see what you mean there but I really,really,really hope this is not the case.

Same here .... :tgrin::tgrin::tgrin:

oldmanwinters 01-07-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039093)
I know this sounds like a crazy conspiracy thread, but hear me out.

1. Her father is a scientist (first time in TMNT history), and his name in this show is Kirby (also a first in TMNT history).

2. Kirby's crystal is what created her in the Mirage books.

3. She apparently has no mother.

4. The creative team kept hinting about April being special in this series. While I guess they could have been referring to the whole "sensitive to universal vibrations" thing, it seemed like something bigger.

5. I could see this as their excuse to get around the Donatello romance thing.

I think all of these (with the exception of #5... hopefully) are legit arguments for a big twist like that. My only big critique is that the April as Drawing angle was entirely Laird's idea and only appeared in the late Volume 4 comics... arguably one of the most obscure corners in all the TMNT multi-verse.

Drose18 01-07-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1039130)
I think all of these (with the exception of #5... hopefully) are legit arguments for a big twist like that. My only big critique is that the April as Drawing angle was entirely Laird's idea and only appeared in the late Volume 4 comics... arguably one of the most obscure corners in all the TMNT multi-verse.

Not to mention frightening as she could vanish any second.

ToTheNines 01-07-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1039130)
I think all of these (with the exception of #5... hopefully) are legit arguments for a big twist like that. My only big critique is that the April as Drawing angle was entirely Laird's idea and only appeared in the late Volume 4 comics... arguably one of the most obscure corners in all the TMNT multi-verse.

I don't know about obscure, but definitely niche.

oldmanwinters 01-07-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039134)
I don't know about obscure, but definitely niche.

Yeah, that's probably the better term.

Kevin G 01-07-2013 11:23 AM

I apologize for asking such a naive question but what do you mean in the Mirage books, it was Kirby's crystal that created her ? April in the comic book series was never human ?

CyberCubed 01-07-2013 11:24 AM

I doubt the writers of the Nick cartoon ever read the Volume 4 comics. Also they hinted that April will, "grow up to become the strong news reporter woman."

Seems more like they want to be like she was in the OT than anything else.

Kirby could be a lot of things, Eastman might have suggested it to be he fathers name because of the 5th Turtle character he wanted.

FoxZerro 01-07-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie (Post 1039133)
Not to mention frightening as she could vanish any second.

Right terrifying... I don't understand why once her parents had died she didn't just vanish... I mean we were told it was their love that kept her from fading, but wouldn't that mean that once they were no longer there to provide that love she would be gone.

Also did Kirby really Love that portal so much that it wouldn't fade away?

TurtleMaster4 01-07-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536 (Post 1039110)
See. These are the things that ruin the experience of enjoying the show.:tgrumble: Why do we always have to speculate like this? Now I know why Ciro left this forum. It just gets annoying.:trolleye:

Also, Shark_Blade - That is very funny. I like your joke.:tlol:


What are you talking about man? Spectulation enhances the show! it dosn't ruin it!:tgrin:

CyberCubed 01-07-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin G (Post 1039144)
I apologize for asking such a naive question but what do you mean in the Mirage books, it was Kirby's crystal that created her ? April in the comic book series was never human ?

Did you watch the 4kids episodes where Don and Kirby travel to an alternate dimensional using a crystal that brought drawings to life?

In Mirage the same crystal was later revealed to be used by April's father to bring her to life, about 20 years before Kirby found it.

Oculus Orbus 01-07-2013 01:49 PM

I must have been like the only person that liked that storyline in Volume 4, but I do not want to see it in the Nick show.

Jephael 01-07-2013 01:56 PM

I kinda like the idea of April having some special abilities, but she should still be human. Also, just because she doesn't have a mother now doesn't mean she didn't have one when she was little. How do we know Kirby O' Neil isn't a widower?

ToTheNines 01-07-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1039182)
Also, just because she doesn't have a mother now doesn't mean she didn't have one when she was little. How do we know Kirby O' Neil isn't a widower?

Very true. But that, along with all the other points, add up enough to make it suspect.

Donatello19 01-07-2013 03:30 PM

Of course she's human...I think you're just over-thinking it.

ToTheNines 01-07-2013 05:02 PM

Cool! Someone who knows everything! Tell us, what happens in the season finale?

Really though, I'm not gonna be surprised if she ends up being a normal human. But there are some signs that something is up.

Candy Kappa 01-07-2013 05:09 PM

of course she's not a human, she's a cartoon.

Donatello19 01-07-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039254)
what happens in the season finale?

The first season ends

gobo 01-08-2013 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1039270)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039254)
what happens in the season finale?

The first season ends

You just ruined the surprise for everyone! :tmad: Learn to use spoiler tags, dangit. :tgrumble:

Avatar Yuffie 01-08-2013 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin G (Post 1039144)
I apologize for asking such a naive question but what do you mean in the Mirage books, it was Kirby's crystal that created her ? April in the comic book series was never human ?

Yep.

Apparently her father (Mr. O'Neil) used a pen, hence why she didn't vanish sooner or something. Yeah, it's one of those "I can't believe it's not fanfiction!" thing...

I dunno, Nick's Kirby seemed to be a mythology gag because Mirage's Kirby's crystal technically DID give life to her. It would make sense that's the name of her dad. I wouldn't give that much thought on it.

BTW I really didn't mind she was a drawing, but it bugs me that after this April left and went to Alaska. So anticlimatic. :/

BubblyShell22 01-08-2013 08:16 AM

I highly doubt this is the case, but it's fun to speculate about. I like having discussions like this because they add something to the conversation.

And Ciro left because there were people who wanted to live in the past and not accept the changes that were made. He couldn't handle that, so he left.

ToTheNines 01-08-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1039480)
And Ciro left because there were people who wanted to live in the past and not accept the changes that were made. He couldn't handle that, so he left.

He left because of cybercubed. I don't blame him.

Jephael 01-08-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1039480)
Ciro left because there were people who wanted to live in the past and not accept the changes that were made. He couldn't handle that, so he left.

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039481)
He left because of CyberCubed. I don't blame him.

Yea, but if you bring it up, he'll totally deny it's his fault!

FoxZerro 01-08-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie (Post 1039458)
BTW I really didn't mind she was a drawing, but it bugs me that after this April left and went to Alaska. So anticlimatic. :/

I don't know I kind of liked Tales of the TMNT Issue 27. I was a fan of how she got over the whole thing, because of magical mythical horse.

What I didn't like was:
Spoiler:
Her becoming Nobody...

I mean that felt forced

Jephael 01-08-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxZerro (Post 1039512)
What I didn't like was:
Spoiler:
[April] becoming Nobody...

I mean that felt forced

I thought that was a cool twist.

FoxZerro 01-08-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1039516)
I thought that was a cool twist.

It was the fact that the last line of Issue 22 was April saying I'm Nobody. Felt almost too on the nose, plus it seemed like a little bit of an overeaction... Especially considering some of the other things she had been through up till that point.

ToTheNines 01-08-2013 10:14 AM

The Nobody thing was alright, but it only lasted like 5 seconds. Making it feel pointless.

gobo 01-08-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1039480)
And Ciro left because there were people who wanted to live in the past and not accept the changes that were made. He couldn't handle that, so he left.

Because we aren't a bunch of yes-men, he claimed that our compare & contrast discussions were to blame. He pulled the 'sensitive artist' defense.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1039481)
He left because of cybercubed. I don't blame him.

So mean...

Coola Yagami 01-08-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxZerro (Post 1039512)
I don't know I kind of liked Tales of the TMNT Issue 27. I was a fan of how she got over the whole thing, because of magical mythical horse.

What I didn't like was:
Spoiler:
Her becoming Nobody...

I mean that felt forced

I actually found that part to be interesting and they really should have thrown an extra Tales or 2 episode about her adventures as such.

pannoni1 01-08-2013 08:36 PM

No official information has been released, but this thread is purely speculation. She does attend Roosevelt High school, in which her student ID showed her wearing glasses and braces, definitely something very human, which must mean that April wears contact lenses.


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