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liugeaux 01-11-2013 09:05 PM

The cover on the new TMNT Adventures Vol. 3 TPB makes me sad
 
So I just picked up my copy of the TMNT Adventures Vol 3 TPB and while I've been disappointed by Jim Lawson's covers for one reason or another thus far, my sadness on this one comes from the colors too.

http://www.amazon.com/Teenage-Mutant...=I7K2O4PGVBCTS

The turtles, except Raph, all have red masks. WTF! Way to fail Joana Lafuente, and everyone at IDW who let this slip through approval.

I know its not really a big deal...but come on, it hints at the level of effort being put into these reprints.

Powder 01-11-2013 09:11 PM

Wow. IDW really has let some poor coloring stuff see print. The amount of mistakes/inaccuracies/unprofessional practices seen in all of the reprinted material is pretty disappointing.

ToTheNines 01-11-2013 09:17 PM

Really? That saw print? I figured it was an early version and they'd fix it.

CyberCubed 01-11-2013 09:18 PM

I think its pretty funny that some of the covers for the Mirage reprints had color bandanas, now the Archie reprints have red bandanas.

Andrew NDB 01-11-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1040850)
I think its pretty funny that some of the covers for the Mirage reprints had color bandanas, now the Archie reprints have red bandanas.

I'm OK with errors happening in this direction. Karma. :)

liugeaux 01-11-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1040849)
Really? That saw print? I figured it was an early version and they'd fix it.

Yeah, it very much saw print.


Jester 01-11-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1040853)
I'm OK with errors happening in this direction. Karma. :)

"Geeze, where's your off switch!"
-Raphael to Michelangelo

CyberCubed 01-11-2013 11:10 PM

I'm going to have to buy a copy of this.

frank_one 01-12-2013 12:37 PM

They all have red masks? Sounds good to me. :tgrin:

Redeemer 01-12-2013 01:36 PM

THis is why I dont get this collected archies......they are just so piss poor.

CyberCubed 01-12-2013 02:21 PM

I find the way Lawson drew Wyrm kinda funny.

Jephael 01-14-2013 11:06 AM

Geez, after taking a good look at that crappy cover, I'm glad I've already got the original Archie series as originally printed, and therefore have no need for these piss-poor reprints!

Powder 01-14-2013 12:05 PM

Crappy cover? Have some respect for the legendary Lawson.

CyberCubed 01-14-2013 12:07 PM

You know I think they should have had Lawson do the Mirage trade covers and Dooney do the Archie ones.

Lawson's art is obviously better suited for Mirage and Dooney has a better take on the OT TMNT design.

Matches Malone 01-14-2013 12:13 PM

I can't say I agree. Dooney's turtles look great and are a good representation of the more serious Mirage series, except of course when they're collections of the McWeeney & co.

Lawson's turtles, on the other hand, are really cartoony now, albeit not in the same style as the Fred Wolf cartoon. Plus, I think the idea is that the covers should be represented by one of the artists who drew the series, since he drew a good amount of the Archie issues.

I've also been thinking about how awesome it would have been if we got a cartoon that was modeled after Lawson's style. Would've been cool.

Powder 01-14-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone (Post 1041917)
I've also been thinking about how awesome it would have been if we got a cartoon that was modeled after Lawson's style. Would've been cool.

Oh my god, this idea is amazing. I've just started animating and got Flash too, maybe I can do a short somewhere down the line... :o:tgrin:

DrSpengler 01-14-2013 01:16 PM

Considering how angular and geometric it is, one would think Lawson's contemporary style would lend itself to animation rather efficiently.

I'm down with Lawson doing covers for these (though I'd love to see Mitchroney do a few), though I don't think this Vol. 3 cover is one of his better efforts. The layout's just kinda... boring.

All the villains arbitrarily standing in the foreground then looking over their shoulders at the TMNT, "Oh hay lookie there its the turtles now where'd they come from I wonder hmmmm..."

He can do a lot better, I think.

liugeaux 01-14-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 1041932)
He can do a lot better, I think.

I agree he can do ALOT better.

I respect Lawson, and love the work he did in Tales and Mirage Vols. 1, 2 and 4, but all of the Adventures trade covers have been tacky looking, poorly inked and muddly colored messes. That's in stark contrast to the Dooney covers for the classics trades. Those Dooney covers are beautiful!

I think IDW dropped the ball on the covers for these because clearly the job should have went to Chris Allen. His depiction of the TMNT is what I most closely relate to the Adventure series and he's possibly my favorite TMNT artist of all time.

discordiatookie 01-14-2013 03:06 PM

I quite like the cover, bit silly with the red bandanas though!

Only issue for me is that Krang is very vol 4 Utromy...

Matches Malone 01-14-2013 03:13 PM

I definitely liked the first volume of the turtles riding the pizza slice. It's just so goofy and fits perfectly with the cartoon vibe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1041926)
Oh my god, this idea is amazing. I've just started animating and got Flash too, maybe I can do a short somewhere down the line... :o:tgrin:

All signs point to yes.

Jephael 01-15-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1041910)
Have some respect for the legendary Lawson.

You should've been on here back when Volume 4 was brand new. Just about everyone in the fandom was dissing his artwork, but I actually defended it.

FoxZerro 01-15-2013 08:52 AM

When I was at Shellback on Saturday, Steve Lavigne told me he had just submitted a cover to IDW for Volume 5 of the Archie series. To me that means they will be using different artists for the covers. Who knows who we might see.

I agree this this is the weakest of the covers so far.

Plasticplayhouse 01-15-2013 06:55 PM

Lawson did quite a few drawings for Archie back in the day. He also did a ton of newspaper comic strips. While I like Jim's cover, Ryan brown is the ultimate Archie guy imo. His was the only of the Archie stuff that I really liked. Though I don't believe he takes this kind of work anymore.

darthsmozers 01-15-2013 07:13 PM

Wasn't this the accepted cover after IDW rejected Lawson's first attempt? I think it was posted on his FB sometime... the original was much better.

Are they really all red bandanas? To me they look blue, purple, and orange, just badly shaded...

And I too vote for Chris Allan :-)

Toby Barrett 01-15-2013 08:08 PM

I've held the book in person. They're all wearing red.

darthsmozers 01-15-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett (Post 1042582)
I've held the book in person. They're all wearing red.

Amazon says Jan 22nd. Some folks have it already?

pannoni1 01-15-2013 08:32 PM

No belt initials or common skin tone colors in addition. It feels more like the cover of a DW collection for the 2003 cartoon than for Archie. They probably just want to make it look refreshing and unique.

At least the Vol. 4 cover has the belt initials and even though is in black & white, makes it aim nostalgic and should bring out the old fans.

Powder 01-15-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plasticplayhouse (Post 1042539)
Lawson did quite a few drawings for Archie back in the day. He also did a ton of newspaper comic strips. While I like Jim's cover, Ryan brown is the ultimate Archie guy imo. His was the only of the Archie stuff that I really liked. Though I don't believe he takes this kind of work anymore.

He actually did a few whole issues, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthsmozers (Post 1042551)
Wasn't this the accepted cover after IDW rejected Lawson's first attempt? I think it was posted on his FB sometime... the original was much better.

Are they really all red bandanas? To me they look blue, purple, and orange, just badly shaded...

And I too vote for Chris Allan :-)

You're getting a bit mixed up, I think. & I would imagine they wouldn't bring Chris aboard until his art's inside the books (or is it already? I'm not following these so I have no idea how far they are).

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 01-15-2013 09:13 PM

Chris Allan didn't come on board until after Ninjara showed up I don't think, and these are still fairly early issues, Raphael is dressed like they just went or came back from Stump Asteroid there.

It always struck me that Chris Allan was trying to give the characters sex appeal, so it would be weird seeing him do covers for any of the pre-Japan trades.

Jester 01-15-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1042615)
You're getting a bit mixed up, I think. & I would imagine they wouldn't bring Chris aboard until his art's inside the books (or is it already? I'm not following these so I have no idea how far they are).

Still primarily Mitchroney issues, last I saw. Surprised he wasn't tapped. He works for Nick. Maybe he's just too busy.

Venom 01-16-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1042622)
Still primarily Mitchroney issues, last I saw. Surprised he wasn't tapped. He works for Nick. Maybe he's just too busy.

He doesn't work for Nick any more; for the moment anyway. Things seem to ebb and flow in the entertainment industry.

darthsmozers 01-16-2013 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1042599)
No belt initials or common skin tone colors in addition. It feels more like the cover of a DW collection for the 2003 cartoon than for Archie. They probably just want to make it look refreshing and unique.

At least the Vol. 4 cover has the belt initials and even though is in black & white, makes it aim nostalgic and should bring out the old fans.

Is it black and white in final or will it be colored before release?


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