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ToTheNines 02-22-2013 08:32 PM

Secret History of the Foot Clan #3 Discussion
 
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...1775764&type=1

I believe pages 2 and 3 have been swapped, as well as 5 and 6 -_-

I'll update with a better preview soon, but this is "facebook exclusive" right now.

Chris 02-23-2013 05:35 AM

Awesome, thanks dude.

strugler 02-26-2013 03:31 AM

Secret History of the Foot Clan #3 Preview
 
Check out a preview for The Scret History of The Foot Clan, as well as a review score ( afull review to follow later)

http://www.tmntlair.com/2013/02/26/p...e-foot-clan-3/

JoshDA7X 02-26-2013 03:50 AM

Perfect score!

I do love the art in this series. I'm looking forward to picking this up!

ToTheNines 02-26-2013 06:31 AM

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=41451

strugler 02-26-2013 09:45 AM

I seriously could not find one thing to complain about in this issue.

The art is stunning,

The story is solid,

The book also has the best action scene we have seen in the TMNT books.

Santalouco is the MAN!

Jester 02-26-2013 09:57 AM

Like clock work....a new issue, and the 1 or 2 new posts from Strugler.

See you again when issue #20 is about to hit....

Venom 02-26-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1064868)
Like clock work....a new issue, and the 1 or 2 new posts from Strugler.

See you again when issue #20 is about to hit....

With more terrible grammar to follow. Misspelling artist's names, leaving letters out of titles, not spacing correctly..sheesh.

Shoukichi 02-26-2013 11:29 AM

There is a great interview here with Messrs Santolouco and Burnham from Newsarama about the mini as a whole.

Not a whole lot of new details about the mini-series, but some cool general information about the process of creating the story.

VaughnMichael 02-27-2013 05:49 AM

How many issues are left in this?
And any news on a trade of this?

Toby Barrett 02-27-2013 07:06 AM

Secret History of the Foot Clab TPB

VaughnMichael 02-27-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Barrett (Post 1065292)

Ooooo thank you! And you scared me with the Foot Clab.:lol:

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 02-27-2013 12:07 PM

I just read it! Will there be more issues or is ot only 3?

Jester 02-27-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 (Post 1065378)
I just read it! Will there be more issues or is ot only 3?

The last page says "To be concluded." There's one more....

ToTheNines 02-27-2013 12:46 PM

Great read, as expected.

I really can't say enough about the art. Every single panel was masterful, and the action is so badass. Vieira owned again, and I kinda hope he joins Mateus in the ongoing (nothing against Ronda). My favorite takedowns were Don whacking that ninja so hard his eye-lense popped off, and then Raph smacking Alopex off the van. DOT approved bike helmets are heavy lol.

I love Raph and Alopex's ongoing rivalry, as well as the way Karai kept belittling her future boss Leonardo. Speaking of them two, I was really pleased to see there's some tension between Karai and Alopex. It's an interesting dynamic that Karai appears to be in charge of her, yet Shredder treats her better than Karai.

Anyone else a little suspicious of Dr. Miller? I'm not saying I think he's evil, but he's so obsessed that I can see him doing something really stupid next issue.

The Feudal Japan era stuff didn't reveal quite as much as I had hoped this issue, but I'm sure it's all coming in #4. They've really crafted an excellent story here though. I feel terrible for Maji, since he did all he could for his son, and I even feel bad for Saki in a way, despite the fact that he's the reincarnation of Tatsuo.

This is shaping up to be one of my top 5 favorite TMNT comic book stories. I'm sooo psyched for March. Gonna be an epic month.

Dirty Blond 02-27-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Venom (Post 1064887)
With more terrible grammar to follow. Misspelling artist's names, leaving letters out of titles, not spacing correctly..sheesh.

How we are forced to strugle with strugler.

Slade 02-27-2013 01:28 PM

I loved it! Fights where great and really enjoying the story.

Redeemer 02-27-2013 03:49 PM

Wow an amazing issue!!!!!!!!!! I think the history of the foot clan is probably my favorite Micro series.
Spoiler:
Loved the fight scenes. I loved Leo and Karia trash talking and Raph's whitty remarks. I also love Raph's and Alopex's Rivalry. Casey and April got in over there head which I thought was funny.

can't wait for the conclusion!!

Crabfight 02-27-2013 05:40 PM

Ahhhh! This issue was so good! The spread of Kitsune revealing Saki's past life to him was ridiculously cool.

Spoiler:
Leo's battle with (and injury by) Karai, Raph on the bike, Mikey trying to think up a battle cry, Donatello giving and following orders as efficiently as possible: this issue really shined for every turtle.

I'm really curious about how Santolouco intends to end this series. He has one issue left and we really don't know what secret power Shredder is looking for, or why Quanin is so interested in interfering with the lives of these humans in the first place. What could he possibly want from Earth?

DrSpengler 02-27-2013 05:54 PM

My review of Secret of the Foot Clan #3 at TMNT Entity.

Man, I've loving this. With a few tweaks it would make a badass TMNT movie.

Shredder's origin has always been rife with untapped potential and seeing it decompressed here in all its tragic glory is amazing. What I really find remarkable is that, in regards to Shredder's two competing essences, Oroku Saki is actually the "good" one (the one raised by a loving father and having spent his life trying to control his baser urges and do the right thing) while the "evil" half has always been the spirit of Tatsuo Takeshi lurking below.

Even though he retains the name, I wonder how "dead" the Oroku Saki personality truly is and just how much Tatsuo Takeshi has dominated the equation. It sort of leaves a back door for the possibility of Oroku Saki being redeemable if the Tatsuo influence is eradicated.

It's great having a complex Shredder for a change.

And yeah, my review reveals how little I understand laws of momentum (I took geology in college to fulfill my science credit requirements!). Would Raph's helmet-throwing move have actually worked?

Powder 02-27-2013 05:59 PM

This series is god tier. That is all I can say.

Martin 02-27-2013 06:07 PM

And this is why I'm thrilled matheus is the new regular. Amazing art, great fight scenes; I'm also under the impression that he even turned down a notch the whole stylized bandanas thing; they were still there, but they didn't look as exaggerated as before.

Secret History is shaping up to be (or maybe it already is :trazz:) the best installment/story arc that IDW has put out so far. It has a great story with no excessive breaks to build up tension (as the main series tends to do, though it might be a little unfair of me to say this since this is only a 4 issue kinda thing), and, as a bonus, we are learning quite a few interesting things... plus raph got his bike back, and that's always a good thing.

[*SPECULATION WARNING*] I'm a bit curious as to why shredhead died in the first place. If he was getting the ooze from krang to live forever, what caused his demise? I'm also wondering how the fact that saki actually knows who krang is will affect their (surely) soon-to-happen encounter. Will they be allies? Enemies? As I said, we don't know what caused saki to die in the first place; maybe krang stopped providing him with the ooze, but would that be enough to turn saki against him? We all know that krang will lose against the turtles, and karai is already causing trouble on burnow island. If shredder meets a weakened version of krang, will he take that opportunity to crush him? Possibilities, possibilities, so many possibilities. But I digress.

We also got to see leo without his bandana. So serious and somber... I loved it!

Bobby Curnow 02-27-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 1065495)

And yeah, my review reveals how little I understand lows of momentum (I took geology in college to fulfill my science credit requirements!). Would Raph's helmet-throwing move have actually worked?

Ha, I'm pretty positive there's no way to throw something faster than a moving bicycle. It would go a yard forward, and then you'd pass it. I thought about bringing it up to the guys during production, but... it was just too cool. Comic books!

Thanks Spengs, your reviews are always a highlight. (even back when you were more iffy on the books!)

DrSpengler 02-27-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Curnow (Post 1065507)
Ha, I'm pretty positive there's no way to throw something faster than a moving bicycle. It would go a yard forward, and then you'd pass it. I thought about bringing it up to the guys during production, but... it was just too cool. Comic books!

Thanks Spengs, your reviews are always a highlight. (even back when you were more iffy on the books!)

Never let it be misunderstood that I am iffy on Secret History of the Foot Clan. This book is amazing!

Iffy on physics, now THAT'S a different subject entirely...

Martin 02-27-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 1065495)
My review of Secret of the Foot Clan #3 at TMNT Entity.

And yeah, my review reveals how little I understand lows of momentum (I took geology in college to fulfill my science credit requirements!). Would Raph's helmet-throwing move have actually worked?

Yes, given your scenario, when it left raph's hand, the helmet would have been travelling at 90 mph (I'm not sure how fast you can actually throw a helmet though). The distance that the helmet had to travel wasn't that long, but it might be long enough for the air resistance to play a substantial part in all this. To me, it's more the shock of getting hit in the back of the head what knocks Alopex off than the blow itself, so the force with which the helmet struck her might not be so important. It just had to be strong enough to make her lose her balance.

All in all, I think it could have worked... or at least it was believable enough

oldmanwinters 02-27-2013 07:35 PM

For all the talk about physics in this issue (or lack therefore), how ironic was it that Donatello actually dropped a Newton's Second Law reference in the van?

:tlol:

Eiko 02-28-2013 06:32 AM

Looking forward to this issue. :)

Redeemer 02-28-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinf (Post 1065501)

[*SPECULATION WARNING*] I'm a bit curious as to why shredhead died in the first place. If he was getting the ooze from krang to live forever, what caused his demise? I'm also wondering how the fact that saki actually knows who krang is will affect their (surely) soon-to-happen encounter. Will they be allies? Enemies? As I said, we don't know what caused saki to die in the first place; maybe krang stopped providing him with the ooze, but would that be enough to turn saki against him? We all know that krang will lose against the turtles, and karai is already causing trouble on burnow island. If shredder meets a weakened version of krang, will he take that opportunity to crush him? Possibilities, possibilities, so many possibilities. But I digress.

We also got to see leo without his bandana. So serious and somber... I loved it!

Thats what I am wondering!!!!I wonder if Shredder had a falling out with Krang's father or krang who ever it was and if thats why they are rivals now????

Also anybody wondering about the Savanti Ninjas and the so called war???City Fall Maybe????????I hope so!!!!!!!!!!!!

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 02-28-2013 07:40 PM

Did this not come out this past Wednesday like it was supposed to???

Powder 02-28-2013 08:43 PM

Did you not see all of the posts discussing the content of the book...? Yes, it's out.

Erik Burnham 03-01-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Curnow (Post 1065507)
Ha, I'm pretty positive there's no way to throw something faster than a moving bicycle. It would go a yard forward, and then you'd pass it. I thought about bringing it up to the guys during production, but... it was just too cool. Comic books!

Thanks Spengs, your reviews are always a highlight. (even back when you were more iffy on the books!)

Yeah, TOTALLY impossible, but the coolness outweighed it.

Plus, Raph violating the laws of physics made Don's Newton crack funnier to me. Raphael, man, he doesn't follow your square scientific rules! (I'm probably the only one that feels that way.) (;

909 Turtle Fan 03-01-2013 01:14 AM

what a cool issue, those red battle scenes are drawn so well. it would be cool to see Alopex bite someone hahah. Raph on a bike :tgrin: i just wish the shop would have had the RI cover. cant wait for the conclusion!

Toby Barrett 03-01-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Burnham (Post 1066128)
Yeah, TOTALLY impossible, but the coolness outweighed it.

Plus, Raph violating the laws of physics made Don's Newton crack funnier to me. Raphael, man, he doesn't follow your square scientific rules! (I'm probably the only one that feels that way.) (;

I have to agree honestly! It's as if Raph did it just to spite Donnie. Xp

Redeemer 03-01-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Barrett (Post 1066190)
I have to agree honestly! It's as if Raph did it just to spite Donnie. Xp

:tlol: agreed, Raph broke the law of physics just to piss off Don, hopefully Don won't be to upset

oldmanwinters 03-01-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Burnham (Post 1066128)
Yeah, TOTALLY impossible, but the coolness outweighed it.

Plus, Raph violating the laws of physics made Don's Newton crack funnier to me. Raphael, man, he doesn't follow your square scientific rules! (I'm probably the only one that feels that way.) (;

I never thought about it in that context, but that is certainly the most convincing argument I've heard. Raphael and Donatello operate in different worlds, mentally speaking. :tthumbsu::tthumbsu:

Raph's Girl 03-01-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1066230)
:tlol: agreed, Raph broke the law of physics just to piss off Don, hopefully Don won't be to upset

You cannae break the laws of physics! Unless you're Raphael :D

But seriously.. Another awesome issue. Me thinks tho that Casey's taking them to the good ole family farm. :D

thelouisguy 03-01-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1066077)
Did you not see all of the posts discussing the content of the book...? Yes, it's out.

No no, all the discussion is from the previews alone. :twink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Burnham (Post 1066128)
Plus, Raph violating the laws of physics made Don's Newton crack funnier to me.

Yes!


I don't have much more to add and agree that this mini-series is amazing! But it is so well written that you would think that this is the way the origin of the Foot Clan always was. As much as the reincarnation angle was criticized at the start, it is now paying off with all the history and back story they are able to create.

Tazi 03-02-2013 05:14 AM

Nice issue, I loved it! :)

I bet issue 4's ending will foreshadow the reason why will Leo join Shredder in City Fall.

Martin 03-02-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazi (Post 1066648)
Nice issue, I loved it! :)

I bet issue 4's ending will foreshadow the reason why will Leo join Shredder in City Fall.

Yep. Though after this issue I'm beginning to fear that he will change teams to gather info on shredder instead of doing so based on personal belief or even brainwash. This was always a possibility that was discussed here, but I still believe it's not even near as cool as Leo going over due to a change in his mindset.

I can already see it coming: Leo goes over to see how they can get rid of the shredder; shredhead takes him in, makes him second in command; at some point saki confronts splinter and tells him what a failure he is as a father that his own son would betray him (it would also be a nice comeback to all the times splinter yelled 'my sons have honor' in saki's face); Leo either learns something and decides it's enough or he is confronted with a situation where he has to hurt his family (or do something incredibly evil) and changes sides again; shredhead vows vengeance; etc, etc.

ToTheNines 03-02-2013 08:23 AM

It would be stupid if Leo willingly went over to the Foot without it being an undercover type deal. The guy killed him in a past life and wants his father dead. He runs a criminal empire. There's no redeeming qualities that could make Leo see them in a positive light.

So yeah, I'm down with Leo doing it as a means to take the Foot down (Aqualad style), but then that just makes Shredder look like a frigging idiot if he takes him in and makes him his #2 just like that. At least with Aqualad, Black Manta is his biological father and pretended to turn on the heroes because Aquagirl died during a mission.


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