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STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 01:11 PM

A Closer Look And What To Expect In 'Batman: Arkham Origins'
 
As reported just a few days ago,gamers were treated with a wonderful surprise that the next installment in the famed Batman series will be a prequel to the 2009 smash hit Batman: Arkham Asylum and will be hitting stores later this year on Oct 25, 2013. With the blessing of series developer Rocksteady, newcomer developer to the series WB Montreal has taken the helm for the next entry Batman: Arkham Origins. No need to worry ,I would say it's a pretty safe bet that Rocksteady is hard at work on the sequel to the 10 out of 10 2011 masterpiece Batman: Arkham City for the next generation of consoles.In the meantime,feel free to check out a in depth look at the upcoming game that will still be using the same blueprint that the first two installments have already set for gamers to expect!

My first thoughts...as excited as I am to have another batman game to sink my teeth into,I fear that even with the "blessing" that Rocksteady has given WB Montreal, that the open world might be a bit bland ala the ps3 Amazing Spiderman?



Source:GameInformer.com

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Batman: Arkham City set high standards for a big exploration-focused open world filled with content to uncover. Warner Bros. Games Montreal aims to embrace the model established in that earlier Rocksteady game, but plans to dramatically expand the world to have Batman explore the full breadth of Gotham City. Along with a dramatic choice for the setting in time, the game world of Arkham Origins promises to offer a mix of familiar and surprisingly new elements.

One of the big features that sets Arkham Origins apart is its midwinter Christmas setting. The game picks up on a cold and forbidding Christmas Eve night in Gotham City. Batman is not new to his crime-fighting job as the game begins, but neither is he the grizzled veteran we’ll see in later Arkham games. Up until this point in his career, he’s been fighting mostly normal criminals – mob goons and heist artists – but tonight brings a new and far more dangerous series of threats – super-villains bent on the Dark Knight’s destruction.

The Christmas Eve setting is a purposeful juxtaposition of a normally joyful time cast in the light of the grim world of Gotham City. “It’s a really cool, happy, warm thing and then a really sad thing mixed together to make this ironic image,” explains creative director Eric Holmes. “It’s a beautiful thing in an ugly place. It adds an ironic humor to things without breaking the seriousness of the theme, which is really fun for us.” Scattered throughout the game world in the demo we saw, Christmas lights shine a pale light onto shadowy alleys. Decorative Santa statues take on a frightening tone when placed side by side with gothic gargoyles. Plazas are decked out for holiday celebrations, but they lay vacant thanks to a combination of intense cold, an awful winter storm, and escalating gang activity. Christmas in Gotham is not the stuff of happy dreams.

As Batman faces his new foes in this not-so-cheerful winter wonderland, he’ll have a far bigger world to explore than in previous Arkham games, but the entire setting is thematically tied together. The team calls Gotham City a parachronistic location – a place that seems to be dislodged from time and out of place. Many of the structures seem old and stylized, but the technology available in the world feels modern day or futuristic. “In terms of the timeline, there are aspects of 1930s all over. Like various incarnations of Batman, it’s very consistently in a 1930s style world. But Batman’s technology is clearly from the future. Batman has stuff that we don’t have today.”
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In this early stage of the Arkham timeline, the section of the city that will one day become a walled Arkham prison is still connected to the rest of the city. Called Old Gotham, players once again get to explore the area, but will soon realize that it is dramatically different from how it appeared in Arkham City. Old Gotham is dominated by lower buildings and slums, but many areas will seem entirely new. For instance, Jezebel Plaza, recognizable for its retrofit of prison bars, containment facilities, and gang hideouts in Arkham City, is still a premier shopping district dominated by a massive Christmas tree. Elsewhere, the great flood that drowned so many buildings has not yet occurred, and Batman has the opportunity to explore the dock areas that still exist. Docked just outside of the city limits, players find The Final Offer. This massive ship is the headquarters for the Penguin and his minions, as they illicitly engage in an arms trade with the many parties in Gotham City who are interested in their wares. The off-land HQ provides a no-man’s land of laws, and they ply their trade without interference from the police. Batman isn’t so careful of jurisdictions, and players can expect extended gameplay sequences aboard the hulking ship. Inside, visitors find a full casino and theater in a large passenger section, as well as less public arms storage decks.

While the landmass that will become Arkham City is painted in a new light, it represents less than half of the overall outdoor city area players explore in Arkham Origins. Cross the bridge from Old Gotham, and Batman enters New Gotham. This island of towering skyscrapers, mazes of pipes, and soaring catwalks is an entirely new gameplay space. New Gotham offers dramatically expanded opportunities for gliding navigation, as you climb to the high rooftops and float down through the snowy streets. Though the buildings are high and the streets might be wider, WB Montreal is focused on trying to make New Gotham just as dense with gameplay as any area players encountered in Arkham City. “There are a lot more opportunities to position enemies above and below you because there’s more than one level,” says senior producer Ben Mattes. “In Old Gotham we’ve got the ground and we’ve got rooftops. Now we’ve got ground, we’ve got medium rooftops, we’ve got tall rooftops. So it expands the playground along the vertical axis. We’re not interested in making a big sprawling city where you run for blocks before you find someone to fight. We want to maintain that density where around every corner over every rooftop there’s always something interesting both visually and gameplay-wise.”
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With this new, larger space to explore, many players may enjoy the lengthy glides and grapnel trips involved in traversing the distance. For those looking for a quicker route, Arkham Origins introduces a fast travel system using Batman’s signature Batwing plane. He can remotely summon the aircraft to carry him up and away and closer to his current objective in an instant. However, players have to work for the privilege. All around Gotham, Batman finds jamming towers held by enemy forces. Echoing popular systems in games like Assassin’s Creed and Far Cry, by taking over those towers, he gains access to a number of collectibles in the area and the ability to call in the Batwing to whisk him away.

It’s a mistake to characterize the world of Arkham Origins as a dramatic departure from previous entries. Rather, WB Montreal has wisely maintained many of the visual aesthetics and city characteristics that made the earlier Arkham games so iconic. Instead of reshaping something that doesn’t need to be changed, the Origins team has instead focused on painting that brilliantly realized Gotham City in a new light for a different moment in time. In addition, their ambitions suggest a game world that is around twice as large as the last game in the series. Together, the game world we witnessed in our demo has us itching to dive in for ourselves, and finally spread the shadow of the Dark Knight’s cape across all of Gotham.
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FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 04-11-2013 04:42 PM

I'm looking forward to this.
I'm hoping if WB Montreal are actually following Rocksteady's blueprint then we shouldn't get a bland experience as seen in the Amazing Spider-Man video you posted.

Candy Kappa 04-11-2013 05:04 PM

Arkham Origins... Oh how I wish we'd get more of the origin of Arkham Alsylum, like the tidbits we got in the first game based of the Arkham Serious house on serious earth comic.

Explore more of Amadeus Arkham, his relation to his mother, the bat and the building of the asylum.

TheCanadiandrome 04-11-2013 05:13 PM

there's a game coming for Vita and 3DS and this one for current Gen systems correct?

Peanut 04-11-2013 05:33 PM

Arkham City is a 10 out of 10? Get a f*cking grip.

I was so excited by the news that the next game in the series was a campy Batman set in the silver age, but instead we get what seems like a AC:Brotherhood/Revelations style filler game by some b-team. How could anyone want more of these games after City? Let alone one set in the exact same environments we've seen for two games?

Hopefully Rocksteady is either still making the silver age Batman, or has instead moved away from the franchise all-together. The less gritty Batman we get over the next decade, the happier I'll be.

Brodie 04-11-2013 05:41 PM

In revisiting City with the GOTY edition to play the Robin/Nightwing stuff, I made the mistake of going back into the game proper.

It just reminded me of how much I ****ing disliked Arkham City.

Like Peanut, I was excited about a weird, off the wall Silver Age Batman game. This game is going to be some goddamn mishmash of Rocksteady B-Team, going for the ultra grit tone of the last one.

Arkham is not that interesting. Worth one game? For sure. Two? A city? And then some? No.

Slade 04-11-2013 05:52 PM

I can agree Arkham isn't that interesting and disagree that I did not want to play Silver Age Batman at all, but I still love te games. So yeah I'm pretty excited for this.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1082771)
Arkham City is a 10 out of 10? Get a f*cking grip.

I was so excited by the news that the next game in the series was a campy Batman set in the silver age, but instead we get what seems like a AC:Brotherhood/Revelations style filler game by some b-team. How could anyone want more of these games after City? Let alone one set in the exact same environments we've seen for two games?

Hopefully Rocksteady is either still making the silver age Batman, or has instead moved away from the franchise all-together. The less gritty Batman we get over the next decade, the happier I'll be.

umm ya a 10 out of 10 lol

I respect everyones opinion and i dont think i need to "get a grip" just because you didnt like it.Fact is it DID get a 10 out of 10 on its way to winning several game of the year awards.I thought it was well voice acted,the graphics were amazing and the story was great with a all star dc cast.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/ba...ever-made.aspx

^ uh ya,looks like the rest of the world needs to "get a grip" as well:lol:

The Stryker 04-11-2013 07:24 PM

Game reviewers also like garbage like Braid.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome (Post 1082760)
there's a game coming for Vita and 3DS and this one for current Gen systems correct?

Correct my friend,there will be a Black Gate handheld game released as well on the 25th of Oct :D

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 07:29 PM

Well actually being a critic myself,i can tell you we would't of got the job in the first place if we didn't have a good feel for which ever genre we are reviewing.Opinions are always respected...or at least SHOULD be,but sadly there is always a percent that will never agree.Thats what makes the USA great.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

Cure 04-11-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082838)
Well actually being a critic myself,i can tell you we would't of got the job in the first place if we didn't have a good feel for which ever genre we are reviewing.Opinions are always respected...or at least SHOULD be,but sadly there is always a percent that will never agree.Thats what makes the USA great.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

Oh, Jesus. I'd hate to read any of your reviews.

As for Batman, I can't wait for more detective mode. I sure looooooved that.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 07:37 PM

^ fair enough. Hey i love Big Trouble in Little China which got massacred by critics.If your referring to my Nolans Batman comments, it sounds like you would not only "hate to read my reviews ",but the majority of all critics world wide who reviewed Nolans Batman as well.Lol

Cure 04-11-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082847)
^ fair enough. Hey i love Big Trouble in Little China which got massacred by critics.If your referring to my Nolans Batman comments, it sounds like you would not only "hate to read my reviews ",but the majority of all critics world wide who reviewed Nolans Batman as well.Lol

I'm referring to the way you type.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 07:54 PM

^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.

Who is the Admin here? I got to say,i have never seen a site with such a consistent and negative group of people.Is this the image you all want to give to the world of the Technodrome community? I think i may just have discussions in the Nick tmnt thread and leave it at that from now on.

Brodie 04-11-2013 07:58 PM

Hey, a lot has changed in the reviewing world. Things like punctuation and capital letters? THIS AIN'T YOUR DAD'S NINTENDO POWER!

The Stryker 04-11-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082855)
^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.

Who is the Admin here? I got to say,i have never seen a site with such a consistent and negative group of people.Is this the image you all want to give to the world of the Technodrome community? I think i may just have discussions in the Nick tmnt thread and leave it at that from now on.

Have fun with that! We'll always have the memories.

Look up the Fuel song about memories and you'll get it.

Cure 04-11-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082855)
^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.

If you can take the time to use a caret (^), you can hit the space bar after punctuation.

Brodie 04-11-2013 08:40 PM

I'm waiting for him to "correct" your spelling on 'caret,' and point out ...pot, kettle, blah blah.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 08:41 PM

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Hey, a lot has changed in the reviewing world. Things like punctuation and capital letters? THIS AIN'T YOUR DAD'S NINTENDO POWER!

If you can take the time to use a caret (^), you can hit the space bar after punctuation.


Have fun with that! We'll always have the memories.

Look up the Fuel song about memories and you'll get it.
:lol::lol:

Ok,so let me get this straight,so heres a new member (me),who took the time to post some news with pics(not some half ass link like many just post)to share some exciting news on OUR hobby to contribute to this site and have a good discussion with fellow tmnt fans...........

AND instead ,you all would rather heckle me because im using a touch screen phone to post and ALL you got to contribute is "trying" to start some **** by being a bunch of negative assholes by "burning" me because...OMG I DIDN'T use correct spacing and use capital letters?? LMFAO....

Good one guys,yall really showed me.Y'ALL are a embarassment to this site than many refer to as a great place to talk shop with good people that we all share a interest in.

Look up the definition of the word TROLL and you will GET IT.F--kin losers.Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

Cure 04-11-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082886)
Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

There it is! The quintessential "i have hot sex and you don't and you live in your mom's basement" line that everyone throws out. Perfect. We haven't had one of those in a while. Good times.

The Stryker 04-11-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082886)
Look up the definition of the word TROLL and you will GET IT.F--kin losers.Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

Oh wow. Good one.

Juicy Booty you say? Video game critics get all the tail!

Peanut 04-11-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082886)
Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

HAHAHAHA! Did you fall out of the new millennium with that sh*t, kid?

It's like a walking stereotype of the Internet Message Board Guy. Here are "facts" to back up my bullsh*t that rely on absolutely nothing aside from the opinion of others! Here's my bullsh*t lie about how I work in this field so my opinion actually matters. Finally, I'm tired of talking about this nerd sh*t, so I'm going to go have pretend sex with myself and you're all basement dwellers!

Raven 04-11-2013 09:17 PM

Anyways, getting back on subject. I'm really excited for this game, at first hearing it was a prequel and not by rocksteady had me very off set to this game. But the more I hear about it the more I am excited by it, plus Black Mask is one of my favorite villains, who is rarely portrayed the way I would like to see him.

So heres hoping for a good game, I like the idea of roaming the streets as Batman!


STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 09:18 PM

Hey, the stereotypical "basement "comment is pretty well earned by you fine people who have only shown interest in being a bunch of negative dicks.As for what i do for a living, i could give 3 f--ks what some stranger believes to be true or not.Last i checked, y'all are not my daddy, and your not paying any of my bills.

And as i enjoy the rest of my evening, i'll keep in mind that "peanut,and cube " are all cooler than me.

The funny think...well sad thing actually is you all enjoy this bulls--t than (oh no) actually having an adult conversation with a shared interest. Good job.You are all a shining first impression of the Technodrome community. Bravo.

Peanut 04-11-2013 09:29 PM

Go f*ck yourself. I don't even know who you are, so how the f*ck do you know what I enjoy doing? You want to argue with Cure that's fine, but don't lump me into it because you don't like my opinion, or because you're upset you made yourself look like an ass.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-11-2013 09:45 PM

Hahahaha well f--k you too.I wish we were having this discussion at bar in person. I swear to God i would bitch slap the **** out of you. Doesn't matter if i liked your opinion or not.Point is,i originally respected your opinion "peanut".Seems to me and im sure many views reading this that YOU made a ASS out of your self all on your own when YOU didn't like that i posted as a f--kin NEWS announcement for members to have a good discussion for what we share a interest in when i said AC was a 10 out of 10 ...which is a fact btw since it DID get a 10 and even has a...wait for it...A GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION ...U f--Kin moron LMAO what a idiot.I got go,but i'll read this thread later before bed just for one more laugh.

Cure 04-11-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082922)
I wish we were having this discussion at bar in person. I swear to God i would bitch slap the **** out of you.

The other typical response!


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Seems to me and im sure many views reading this that YOU made a ASS out of your self all on your own when YOU didn't like that i posted as a f--kin NEWS announcement
No, no. It was you.

Candy Kappa 04-12-2013 02:53 AM

I've yet to play City, and barely dabbled in Asylum, but if they can fix Detective mode to be less jarring or just remove that feature completely or reinvent it, and give Batman more crowd control options, I'm game.

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082838)
.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

opinions at best, I'd say the Dark Knight returns adaptation is way better then the Nolan trilogy as a whole.

愛 04-12-2013 05:13 AM

Are we done making fun of the new guy because he's not "in the circle?" Is it really about the video games anymore? :(

And to contribute to the thread, I hated City, so I'd rather they go in another direction with the Batman games.

Turo602 04-12-2013 07:40 AM

Where are people getting the notion that the next game was going to be campy? Inspired from the silver age? Sure, but I don't recall reading anything regarding camp. Just that he'd be teaming with various Justice Leaguers.

Brodie 04-12-2013 09:46 AM

Maybe campy isnt the right word, but anything in a lighter tone than the Asylum games could come off as "campy."

And, if you look at the Silver Age stuff, a large number of it is stuff like this:



http://i.imgur.com/2rssv.jpg

I think most of us are hoping for this more ridiculous stuff, as opposed to them stating Silver Age and just having it be more of the same.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-12-2013 12:30 PM

I'm not a fan of the silver age personally.I like my batman like a like my woman.Dark and gritty.Wait...i meant dark and ehh you know what I mean.

For those who love campy silver age batman,I would recommend the Wii Batman the Brave and the Bold,1960s Adam West Batman tv series,and last but not least the Joel Shumacher Batman and Robin.Thats a good strong does of campy batman that if you dont blow your brains out,you should be satisfied by the end.

Turo602 04-12-2013 12:37 PM

Oh, I get it. Well since Arkham Origins is a prequel, maybe that isn't the right way to go. I'm sure if the Justice League ever makes it to the series, we could be looking forward to something lighter in tone and less serious.

Personally, I prefer dark and serious for Batman, fits my personality a bit more. But I could get down with something more ridiculous. After all, I did enjoy The Batman.

The Stryker 04-12-2013 12:41 PM

I love the Silver Age Bats. It's just completely stupid and fun.

Dark and SUPER SERIOUS Batman has been done to death and after Arkham City and Dark Knight Rises being up their own asses with grit and 'dark' story-telling I think it's time for something different. ANYTHING.

Brave and The Bold would be amazing jump-off point. If only for it's version of Aquaman and the Neon talking super street bat luge.

STORMSHADOW__210 04-12-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1083163)
I love the Silver Age Bats. It's just completely stupid and fun.

Dark and SUPER SERIOUS Batman has been done to death and after Arkham City and Dark Knight Rises being up their own asses with grit and 'dark' story-telling I think it's time for something different. ANYTHING.

Brave and The Bold would be amazing jump-off point. If only for it's version of Aquaman and the Neon talking super street bat luge.

I just saw batman brave and bold on netflix,my inner core nerd bat fan made me "que" it lol,but have yet to watch it.From channel surfing ,just came across a bit too Shumacher for me.

Here is a pretty interesting GameInformer read on how Rocksteady is still involved in the production,and how WB Montreal is trying to honor the franchise.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...m-origins.aspx

As for the prequel concept....IDK...I think the way that arkham city ended,they might of been left scracthing their head as far as what direction to go in.So frankly,for a swan song current gen game,i will gladly take it while we wait a couple of years for a next gen Rocksteady sequel.:D

TheCanadiandrome 04-12-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210 (Post 1082834)
Correct my friend,there will be a Black Gate handheld game released as well on the 25th of Oct :D

cool i thought i'd read that right

STORMSHADOW__210 04-12-2013 02:45 PM

What also worries me, is with all open world games, typically the bigger the city,the less attention to detail (not counting exceptions like far cry 3,GTA ,Sleeping Dogs,ect) and i honeslty dont want a open world like the gotham in DC Universe(which was still cool in its own way) or the NYC in Amazing Spiderman.

Candy Kappa 04-12-2013 03:09 PM

I'd love more Brave and the Bold video games, that show is amazing and truly shows how versatile the Batman character can be.

In both camp and grit.

Raven 05-01-2013 05:11 PM

New screen shots released, giving us a better look at batmans suit.



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