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The Sewer Lord 05-06-2013 12:55 AM

Who do like more?
 
I assure you, this is going to be the hardest choice of your life. :tconfuse:
We all love Krang and Shredder from the original cartoon. Everybody does.
However, which one do you like more?
Told you it's going to be the toughest choice of your life! :tlol:

Personally, I like Krang better than Shredder.
While they were both very funny, I found Krang's past to be very mysterious, and with it, very entertaining.
Krang's past and species was never revealed in the series. Every episode that show bits of his past were very entertaining.
While Shredder -- well, nothing stood up from him like Krang's past did for him.

What do you think?

Shark_Blade 05-06-2013 03:04 AM

I don't even need a second to decide. :P

Shredder of course.

Luzmagica 05-06-2013 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1093274)
I don't even need a second to decide. :P

Shredder of course.

Same here!!! :lol: :P :trazz: :lol:

DVD 05-06-2013 03:29 AM

Yup. Shredder. He's da man.

Although, I really like the Android body. That is cool.

The Sewer Lord 05-06-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1093274)
I don't even need a second to decide. :P

Shredder of course.

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Originally Posted by Luzmagica (Post 1093276)
Same here!!! :lol: :P :trazz: :lol:

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Originally Posted by DVD (Post 1093277)
Yup. Shredder. He's da man.

Although, I really like the Android body. That is cool.

Would y'all like to explain why Shredder's better?

Powder 05-06-2013 07:12 AM

Voted for Krang, assuming the poll is based strictly out of the OT. Krang has always been a top favorite of mine. His design is crazy, he's bursting at the seams with personality, and always has a crafty trick up his sleeve. Love his sense of humor, too. Shredder is great of course, and is just as important, as the dynamic between them is arguably the best part of the entire '87 series.

In the new IDW comics, however, I think I prefer Shredder to Krang. Though he's now getting a fleshed out backstory that's no doubt interesting, he has virtually no personality. He's just a war monger from Dimension X with a bloodlust.

Mzx10484 05-06-2013 09:06 AM

I voted for Shredder, as a child I was so impressed of his appearance and still today he is my favourite villain of all the toons I ever watched !!

CyberCubed 05-06-2013 09:41 AM

In the OT they're both rather funny. I think people like Shredder more because he was billed as the main villain and actually went out and carried out the plans and fought the Turtles.

Krang spends the majority of the episodes just staying at the Technodrome giving orders. That's one reason why whenever Krang did leave the Technodrome and come to Earth it was exciting.

zkarlette 05-06-2013 09:52 AM

I vote for Krang, I really like his sense of humor in the OT, but shredder is not that far behind and so do Bebop and Rocksteady.

The Sewer Lord 05-06-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1093310)
Voted for Krang, assuming the poll is based strictly out of the OT.

Yes, of course. Otherwise, I would have posted this in the TMNT Comics Discussion Forums.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 05-06-2013 11:50 AM

Shredder, since you can't really run a TMNT universe without him.

gobo 05-06-2013 01:17 PM

Uncle Ph-- :tshifty: Shredder.

turtletoons81 05-06-2013 01:20 PM

obviously shredder,i mean he's the main villian of the turtles but krang is awesome aswell

pannoni1 05-06-2013 02:37 PM

I'm quite surprised how different the Shredder is portrayed in each incarnation. That along with being in more universes than Krang (even when including the Utroms) assures that he's always going to be the Turtles' greatest threat. Krang is still closer to #1 (Shredder) than to #3 (Karai, Baxter, Bebop/Rocksteady) since all of the brainpower and capability to be more entertaining than most Shredders makes him nearly as likeable as the Shredder is. But in terms of the OT and who I preferred, I prefer Shredder in Seasons 1, 2, 7, and 8; Krang in Seasons 4-6 (plus European Vacation) when Shredder was basically a goofy shadow of is former self, and both equally in Seasons 3 when the chemistry seemed to be perfect; lots of great interaction via the Comlink.

Icebot 05-06-2013 05:45 PM

For me it's Shredder.

raphfan84 05-06-2013 05:56 PM

Shredder hands down! I think he is hilarious in the OT!

Xav 05-06-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1093260)
Krang's past and species was never revealed in the series.

Actually we did see his species, in the episode "Invasion of the Krangazoids", were he was revealed to be a large reptilian creature.

MikeandRaph87 05-06-2013 06:18 PM

No villain is as overlooked in the wicked category and the cool department than Shredder as seen in the '87 cartoon. Favorite version of my favorite villain!

DonatelloNinja82 05-06-2013 07:14 PM

I voted for Shredder myself. While I love Krang as well, Shredder did most of the work. Krang was the "brains of the outfit". While in the earlier seasons, Shredder was hinted at being a scientist/engineer of sorts, most of the plots were Krang's ideas, but Shredder carried them out. The banter between these two was priceless, but Shredder wins for me. His costume, his insults, and his tenacity are what bring him to the top.:tthumbsu:

Refractive Reflections 05-06-2013 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1093260)
While they were both very funny, I found Krang's past to be very mysterious, and with it, very entertaining.
Krang's past and species was never revealed in the series. Every episode that show bits of his past were very entertaining.
While Shredder -- well, nothing stood up from him like Krang's past did for him.

If this is strictly the OT universe, then I would say Krang barely beats out Shredder for me. Not because of how "cool", "bad", or evil one character was over the other, but as you mentioned, the backstory of the villains.

There was never much development of OT Shredder beyond that short introductory story conflict with Splinter in the beginning of the series ("Turtle Tracks"), his brother ("My Brother The Bad Guy"), and his mother ("Shredder's Mom"). Which is shame because there could have been a treasure supply of story plots in understanding Shredder's history in the series if it looked into his past a little more.

As for Krang, even though the story writers never really formulated a complete backstory from the beginning, they added bits and pieces of it to keep the audience guessing.

Here's a previous post of me explaining this:

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Originally Posted by JYX (Post 1075936)
As for Krang's slave pits of Dimension X, I wished the OT had shown of just how extensive Krang's power and dominion over Dimension X was (i.e. what planets & alien races he took over, size of his armies) since he was warload that had conquered many. Remember the line in "Shredded and Splintered" in Season 1 when Krang had said that he had never been defeated? (I know it was just a dramatic line, but still...:P)

You did do a remarkable job CyberCubed of piecing together Krang's backstory, but there's still so much that's unknown. What crime led or caused his head/brain to be removed from his body? Who exactly "banished" Krang to Earth (according to the 1st season)? How was the Technodrome imagined or conceived besides Beserko being the head engineer for it? And of course the biggest question of all, how exactly did Shredder and Krang meet up? (I know some fanfiction has it, but in terms of OT canon it's a mystery.)

In the end, I guess it depends on how well-written the character is and the depth of their backstory to make them an intriguing character.

Pterobat 05-06-2013 08:57 PM

Easy: Krang.

Why? 'Cause he's funnier, and when it comes to the main OT villains, that's all that really matters, eh? Being the one who wears the "pants" in the Shredder-Krang duo, Krang gets all the best lines and I love seeing him treat the Shredder like dirt. :lol:

I haven't read the IDW comics yet, but probably the image of Krang as a humours character is still going to be the prime image of Krang in my head.

The Sewer Lord 05-06-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1093616)
Actually we did see his species, in the episode "Invasion of the Krangazoids", were he was revealed to be a large reptilian creature.

However, in a another episode (can't remember the name), Krang has a flashback where he's with other beings just like him. Not saying that he isn't a large reptilian creature, but I always thought that whatever happened to Krang (the removal of his body) happened to those other guys as well. I was always wondered why the did it... :cry:

Slade 05-06-2013 10:34 PM

Hardest decision ever huh? Well then Shredder. Fifth favorite villain of all time. I was never a fan of Krang. Just thought he was an annoying brain when I was younger.

gobo 05-07-2013 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1093776)
However, in a another episode (can't remember the name), Krang has a flashback where he's with other beings just like him.

That was "April's Fool". They were experimenting with dimensional transport on the impervium gem. I suppose because dimensional travel was in its infancy at that point, and they needed a way to escape their prison.

Jester 05-07-2013 12:53 AM

Kathrine Hepburn....

AK_Mikey_Fan 05-07-2013 12:56 AM

That's a toughie, but Shredder beats Krang by a few for me. His constant whining and his excessive vocabulary are hilarious XD

Shark_Blade 05-07-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1093307)
Would y'all like to explain why Shredder's better?

Mzx explained it simply quite perfectly:

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Originally Posted by Mzx10484 (Post 1093346)
I voted for Shredder, as a child I was so impressed of his appearance and still today he is my favourite villain of all the toons I ever watched !!

As a child when I first played TMNT 2 Arcade and laid eyes on him - it was frightfully exciting. His appearance was fierce and pure badass, his theme music brings chill to my spine. He kidnapped April and bashed through the office window glass.

Being the final boss, it speaks volume of his authority and power. He was the source of all evil that was happening in the game and he's a force to be reckoned with. He's a menace and I adore him for it.

Now the OT Shredder might be goofy at times, but I will always relate the game Shredder with the OT one. I didn't mind the lite version just for the cartoon version sake. Didn't like the 2k3 utrom version though.

The first movie Shredder basically hit the ball out of the park. Each scene he was in were gold. Nick's version is fine too.

The Sewer Lord 05-07-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 1093853)
That was "April's Fool". They were experimenting with dimensional transport on the impervium gem. I suppose because dimensional travel was in its infancy at that point, and they needed a way to escape their prison.

Thanks, man!

Refractive Reflections 05-29-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1093776)
However, in a another episode (can't remember the name), Krang has a flashback where he's with other beings just like him. Not saying that he isn't a large reptilian creature, but I always thought that whatever happened to Krang (the removal of his body) happened to those other guys as well. I was always wondered why the did it... :cry:

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 1093853)
That was "April's Fool". They were experimenting with dimensional transport on the impervium gem. I suppose because dimensional travel was in its infancy at that point, and they needed a way to escape their prison.

Hmmm... I think it was the "Four Musketurtles" when Krang gives a flashback with 2 other headless Krangs about the gem.

Dudette 05-29-2013 03:41 AM

Shredder without a doubt. He just brings a smile to my face every time. I like him as a character more than Krang, too.

Still, the hilarity levels are the highest when the two are together.

The Sewer Lord 05-29-2013 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JYX (Post 1104027)
Hmmm... I think it was the "Four Musketurtles" when Krang gives a flashback with 2 other headless Krangs about the gem.

Wow. Well, I'm currently re-watching the OTC, I'll find out what episode it is.

Weirdo-Warrior 05-31-2013 04:51 PM

Hard choice, indeed! Krang always was my favourite and I couldn't wait for his toy to be released. I never liked any of Shredder's toy, still today the only one I like is Toon Shredder, which was never released over here, so doesn't even count.

But, Shredder in the Mirage comics and the 1990 movie is far superior to any Krang. As much as I always had a good laugh with the humorous OT Shredder, I often got angry at his incompetence and deeply wanted a competent and evil villain. The comics and the movie gave me what I was asking for.

snake 05-31-2013 05:08 PM

Hmmm. I'd say OT Krang, one of my favorite characters in the OT.

MsMarvelDuckie 05-31-2013 09:04 PM

Shredder, of course! I always loved his voice, and even at his most incompetant, he was always entertaining and wickedly fun and evil. I loved how he somehow always managed to get away, or get the last laugh on Krang. And his back-stabbing nature made him seem like more of a threat, while Krang just seemed straight-up bad but obvious about it.

DonatelloNinja82 05-31-2013 09:23 PM

Favorite Shredder moment? When he blew up the Channel 6 building and said "I. Never. Bluff."

I do agree with JYX. I wish they had gone more into Shredder's past than they did. There's so much potential there...how did he meet Krang? What was it like for him in Japan before he came to America...

Refractive Reflections 05-31-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord (Post 1104062)
Wow. Well, I'm currently re-watching the OTC, I'll find out what episode it is.

Sorry, I meant to say "heads only" Krangs, not headless. LOL :lol:
(...I was very tired that night. :P)

billbot85 06-05-2013 09:02 PM

Krang for me, no doubt.

When I was younger I liked Shredder more, but now that I've been re-watching the series as an adult, I realize how hilarious and witty Krang is. He just always has the best lines. He definitely wears the pants in the Krang/Shredder relationship XD


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