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TomWaltz 05-28-2013 05:34 PM

Let's Discuss TMNT #22!
 
CITY FALL Part One! The fun starts on Wednesday!

And here's a sneak peek:

http://bit.ly/10FGmYe

Thanks!

Talk soon...

Tom W.

CyberCubed 05-28-2013 05:36 PM

Man the artwork is beautiful. It looks like it could be an animated movie.

Maybe IDW should ask Nick if they could release direct-to-DVD movies animating the IDW comics. Looks outstanding so far.

Powder 05-28-2013 05:37 PM

Oof, not me. I try to avoid spoilers like the plague, especially considering how 'small' the average comic is today. But thanks nonetheless for always giving us goodies, Tom!

DONATELLO DUZMACHINES 05-28-2013 05:59 PM

I tried to stay away but I couldn't. This arc is gonna be killer, and santolouco art is just amazing. I love how he makes Raph bulkier than the other turtles, his work is amazing.

LH 05-28-2013 06:15 PM

Looking awesome so far! That City Fall title card looked wicked in the distance... :tgrin:

Spoiler:
So THAT'S why Raph was falling off the bridge in the preview... Didn't expect it to happen so fast!

MikeandRaph87 05-28-2013 06:26 PM

I was not expecting anything beyond the early preview from May 13th. Thanks for the further look as always,Tom!

Spoiler:
Raph got out of that rather easily but left Casey behind. I bet his inability to get Casey with him causes some emotion and character bit for Raph to come and Leo's desent will only push him further. Can't save a friend or a brother.


One thing I am curious about behind the scenes in a non-spoiler but trivia of your genius. How do you succeed in making '87 cartoon fans and black and white comic fans foam at the mouth anxious for the next installment? Its a rare achievement worth a heck of alot of praise. Keep it up!

Lord Nightwalker 05-28-2013 07:39 PM

Tom, It's taking shape quite well man! I can not wait to read this issue.

Jester 05-28-2013 07:42 PM

Thank ya, sir. Can't wait!

corvus 05-28-2013 07:48 PM

Well I was willing to wait nine hours and get the whole issue on comixology but thanks Tom!

dkram230 05-28-2013 08:29 PM

Thanks for the preview Tom! I can't wait for the for the full issue tomorrow!! You guys are really doing TMNT proud.

MikLeo 05-28-2013 10:35 PM

I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Plasticplayhouse 05-29-2013 03:48 AM

Omg do I love this :teek:

Vi11AiN6 05-29-2013 07:55 AM

Looks amazing, love the art, love the story that is unfolding. This is going to be one hell of a ride.

corvus 05-29-2013 09:26 AM

I was so stoked for the issue that I bought it on comixology this morning and read it right away. You guys won't be disappointed.

MikeandRaph87 05-29-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1104116)
I was so stoked for the issue that I bought it on comixology this morning and read it right away. You guys won't be disappointed.

I will get my copy abou 3pm Go ahead and use this thread as the discussion and put your thoughts in spoiler tags,Corvus.

corvus 05-29-2013 10:44 AM

Should get my physical copy Friday or Saturday. Anyways

Spoiler:
looks like Casey won't be taking part in any big city fall fights for awhile. Shredder messed him up bad. Mikey still seems pretty terrified of Slash, should be interesting to see their truce in the upcoming issues. Cool seeing Angel again. Seeing the turtles use their natural aquatic skills was also cool. Looks like Leo might feel abandoned by his family who appears to have put Caseys well being above his own, could play a role in him joining the foot.

blue_angel99 05-29-2013 11:08 AM

Thanks!!! :tgrin:

Tazi 05-29-2013 11:48 AM

just read the issue, and I don't wanna overhype it, but holy ****, that was intense! If the following will be as good as this, the story arc will be even better than secret history.
Spoiler:
While most of the events in this issue were expectable, the execution (no pun intended) was super well done.
People who missed Raph being aggressive and raging, don't have to wait any more. Poor fella.
Can't wait to see what happens next! I guess, June will be a long month!

dkram230 05-29-2013 01:26 PM

Went to my LCS to pick these up. My subscription is labeled as "All TMNT Titles and Covers." Usually I get at least covers A and B and occasionally an RI. The new release bins always have a stack of several A's. When I went in today only an hour after opening, there were ZERO copies of #22 on the shelf and only a lonely A in my pull bin. Holy crap this issue is in demand. Had to turn to eBay to get B, RI-A, and Phantom ($28 shipped- included a dupe A). Now Jetpack just needs to get their other two Phantom variants posted!

shredder orokusaki 05-29-2013 02:05 PM

It was an amazing issue! I almost killed Casey and beat the turtles very hard!!! AHAAHAHAH!! That issue realy shows how badass i am!!!!!:):):):)

Tazi 05-29-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shredder orokusaki (Post 1104218)
It was an amazing issue! I almost killed Casey and beat the turtles very hard!!! AHAAHAHAH!! That issue realy shows how badass i am!!!!!:):):):)

And I'm guessing you didn't put this in a spoiler tag, because you're the Shredder, and thus makes you evil. Sigh...

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 05-29-2013 03:25 PM

Who at IDW doesn't know how to spell "material?" I'm drunker than Casey's dad right now, and I still caught that error...

Great preview though. I'm behind you guys on City Fall 100%.

MikeandRaph87 05-29-2013 04:04 PM

Referencing the letter column,More Weird Bobby Stories? Sounds like a good thread!

Just a cameo of Bebop and Rocksteady? More than that,come on!

Angel visits her father who is off pannel...I bet the fan theory is about to be proven correct!

Possible spoiler.....
I thought the cover to 23 was Raphael since he was ambushed with Casey it appears its Leonardo as he was separated and Casey's stomache being scratched prevented him from being rounded up.

shredder orokusaki 05-29-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazi (Post 1104219)
And I'm guessing you didn't put this in a spoiler tag, because you're the Shredder, and thus makes you evil. Sigh...

Exactly! That why i didnt puit in spoiler tag! Because i wanted to show to evryone how much evil i am!!!

TomWaltz 05-29-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ***The One True Shredder*** (Post 1104265)
Who at IDW doesn't know how to spell "material?" I'm drunker than Casey's dad right now, and I still caught that error...

Great preview though. I'm behind you guys on City Fall 100%.

Umm... Materiel (from the French matériel for equipment or hardware, related to the word material, and sometimes so spelled in English) is a term used in English for equipment and supplies in military and commercial supply chain management.

:D

Weapons@theready 05-29-2013 06:47 PM

In one word-Greatness

To expand I am totally in love with this arc already, I can't wait to see how the story progresses

couple of things

Spoiler:

1.loved seeing Raph and Leo go at in when it comes to saving Casey
2.Raph going bat **** crazy - so glad we finally got to see that hyper-agressive side of him
3. Shredder is ruthless, I actually wasn't sure based on the art if he had stabbed Casey, but even though I like Casey it was good to see Shredder actually be a bad ass

On a negative note, I feel like Splinter training with Leo is foreshadowing the "surprise attack" or katsugi men if you will of Leo joining the Foot just to sneak attack Shredder

Martin 05-29-2013 07:13 PM

I'm sure there'll be a discussion thread where we will rant at length about why this issue was so awesome, but I just need to get this out of my system:

Spoiler:

DrSpengler 05-29-2013 07:19 PM

Here's my review for TMNT #22 at TMNT Entity.

Alright, wow. That was a hell of a way to begin a story arc.

The multitude of plot threads coming to fruition or otherwise being referenced is a bit overwhelming, but even the uninitiated can get by on just the spectacular art and action alone. Seriously, you guys have to hold onto Santolouco; he's the best.

What gets me about the issue is that there's basically one conflict: Big trouble and not a lot of time to react. They need to save Casey, but they have to come up with a plan first, but they don't have enough time to do it. When Splinter tries to stall for time, that has a horrible consequence for Casey. And at the end, they're back where they started only in WORSE shape: They have to save Leo, but they have to save Casey, too, and time is running out.

It builds and builds and builds at a steady pace and finally leaves your adrenaline hanging at the end there. Really well paced.

What was even better was that Splinter's apprehension at Shredder's threat backfired and may have gotten Casey killed. It shows a great vulnerability not just to the heroes, but to their master. He messed up and it may cost them a member of their family. For some reason, I really like stories where Splinter screws up.

And hey, they answered my letter in Ninja Notes! Another "Bebop" and "Rocksteady" cameo in the future, huh? Well, now I know I'm living in The Truman Show.

ToTheNines 05-29-2013 07:54 PM

Wow! Too amazing. I thought #21 was awful, but this kicked the book right back into gear.

I love Mateus-san's art in the ongoing even more than I did in the Foot Mini. A little less stylized. And boy, ain't Ronda and him great together?

The story was awesome though... very intense. I can tell this is going to be great arc.

Only problem with it was Mikey being a chicken sh*t about Slash coming back. First of all, I hate when Mike is portrayed like that. Also, don't they all think Slash is dead?

Anyways, this was just great and I don't know if I've ever been more excited for this book. The Shredder/Casey thing literally made me say "what the fu*k". MS is killing it. The micros rock. Thank you IDW.

MikeandRaph87 05-29-2013 08:26 PM

Just remembered...all the artist thus far have a hand in #23? How will that work out? Flashbacks? :tgrin:

Redeemer 05-29-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1104386)
The Shredder/Casey thing literally made me say "what the fu*k". MS is killing it. The micros rock. Thank you IDW.

I about crapped myself when I saw that panal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is definately one of the best issues of the series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THis totally makes up for issue 21,
Good job IDW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Martin 05-29-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1104394)
Just remembered...all the artist thus far have a hand in #23? How will that work out? Flashbacks? :tgrin:

*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:
Spoiler:
For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

MikeandRaph87 05-29-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinf (Post 1104404)
*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:
Spoiler:
For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

http://www.bygeorgeithinkyouvegotit....s/index_01.jpg

Matches Malone 05-29-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 1104371)
[url=http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2013/05/tmnt-idw-22.html]
What gets me about the issue is that there's basically one conflict

I just realized that this is the first issue of the ongoing without jumping between perspectives and narratives. #21 was almost, but then it jumps to the Shredder at the end. Just thought that was interesting and am wondering if the rest of the arc will follow suit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinf (Post 1104404)
*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:
Spoiler:
For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

That's a pretty good theory, I think you might be on to something there.

corvus 05-29-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinf (Post 1104404)
*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:
Spoiler:
For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

Spoiler:
I was thinking she could also put the idea that his family valued Caseys' life over his own.

ToxicRevolution 05-29-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1104386)
Only problem with it was Mikey being a chicken sh*t about Slash coming back. First of all, I hate when Mike is portrayed like that. Also, don't they all think Slash is dead?

Hmm, I didn't interpret that scene as Michelangelo being afraid that Slash was coming back, I thought he was excited since they were all pretty upset at his apparent death. I could be wrong, but none of the turtles has ever shown fear when faced with a fight and towards the end of the Slash run they started to see him as sort of a tragic, misguided relative.

Anyway, it was a great issue. Got my hands on the A, B, and RIA covers. Already can't wait for the next issue!

oldmanwinters 05-29-2013 10:14 PM

Maybe the best issue yet!
(in the ongoing series, anyway)

Redeemer 05-29-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinf (Post 1104404)
*WARNING* Wild speculation ahead, proceed with caution:
Spoiler:
For some reason I'm lead to believe that it might have something to do with Kitsune brainwashing Leo. I picture her either going through his memories, plucking them out one by one, or maybe she'll make him focus on the different conflicts he had with his brothers, planting hate seeds all over the place (all of this would be done via flashbacks). She might even go as far as pointing out, in a really subversive way, that the one responsible their mother's death was Splinter. I remember a moment in Leo's micro where he remembered his mother's demise and he just lost it. I've been waiting for this to pop up for a while now and this might just be it.

damn't this is what I thought I put in my last post apparently not, I think someone brainwashed me and stole my idea :P
But this was my first thought as well when I saw
Spoiler:
Kitsune and Leo just get knocked the hell out

Cipher 05-30-2013 07:28 AM

Really enjoyed this issue. See me in six months for thoughts on the arc as a whole.

Weapons@theready 05-30-2013 07:34 AM

One more thing, I loved the irony in Karai's line "Foolishly loyal unto death"


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