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miru 06-07-2013 10:53 AM

Why No Venus?
 
It has been said in an interview that Venus is not in the Nickelodeon show. Why was this design made? Is she property of Saban?

ObiWanFan4life 06-07-2013 11:14 AM

Because Venus De Milo is a terrible character.

BabyTurtles 06-07-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life (Post 1108492)
Because Venus De Milo is a terrible character.

.....I can't find a nice way of saying it.......

so yea...I agree with this XD....

Candy Kappa 06-07-2013 12:22 PM

Venus have a lot of baggage, not to mention she is problematic as a character in many ways. One is that she removes the turtles lonesomeness that they are the only of their kind.

Venus just don't fit as a main stay of the group. Also four is already many main characters, adding a 5th and making it a odd number one would get more attention then the rest, as a "super protagonist", the special one. Like Green/White ranger in MMPR

Lord Nightwalker 06-07-2013 12:30 PM

Ah Venus. *smiles* The thing is, Venus was doomed the minute they changed the TMNT's back story and said "there was a fifth turtle with us in the bowl". Or whatever the hell it was they said. She was terrible on that show.

But. She could be reworked into a better charachter easily. So Honestly, who the hell knows? She left a bad taste in fans mouths because of the way her charachter had been portrayed, so that has to be over come before certain fans will accept her.

She was a good example of a charachter with potential done wrong.

Now, when Karai(Miwa) gets turned into a girl turtle (Foreshadowed by Splinter giving April the weapon meant for his daughter, which were fight fans like Venus was supposed to have) maybe she'll change her name?

lol lol lol lol

TurtleTitan97 06-07-2013 12:56 PM

It's because she's one of the most least liked characters in TMNT.

ObiWanFan4life 06-07-2013 12:59 PM

Surprisingly she has a small fan base on DeviantArt, what bothers is their immaturity over the topic calling Peter Laird sexist for Retconning her.

LivingMutagen 06-07-2013 01:00 PM

Pardon my French, but she's the worst f***ing character in TMNT history

Teddy 06-07-2013 01:11 PM

Because she's super lame and the worst character ever created for TMNT. That should be an option in your poll.

gobo 06-07-2013 01:33 PM

Why no Pluto?
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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1108544)
most least liked

XD ^_^

Shreddhead 06-07-2013 01:44 PM

Ditto, to everything

redsai4lex 06-07-2013 02:06 PM

She should be brought back...
So she can have a horrible death scene :teek:

kelligrafie 06-07-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life (Post 1108545)
Surprisingly she has a small fan base on DeviantArt, what bothers is their immaturity over the topic calling Peter Laird sexist for Retconning her.

The only thing that's possibly sexist is adding a 5th turtle and making her female just for the sake of diversity or whatever nonsense they portray it to be. I mean, that's just condescending to women and girls. Especially when we already have decent female characters like April and Karai.

Can you imagine if they added an orange-skinned turtle to appeal to children from ethnic minorities?

I never liked Venus. She never grew on me. I was only a kid and I can recall the great hostility I felt towards her like I have never felt towards a fictional character.

snake 06-07-2013 03:30 PM

Venus! I can't believe it! Why hasn't Ciro thought of adding Venus to the show! She could take over Aprils place and get more screen time then the Turtles themselves! Genuis! But they should save her for the Sonic crossover in which She becomes Sonics Girlfriend.

Powder 06-07-2013 04:27 PM

Miru, stop trolling.

drgon78 06-07-2013 06:17 PM

She is a horrible character.

Ninjinister 06-07-2013 06:20 PM

There are no bad characters, only bad writers.

alliance 06-07-2013 06:25 PM

wheres the 'because she plain sucks' option??

Donatello19 06-07-2013 06:40 PM

Even if she was in the new series, what exactly would she do? She basically had no personality in TNM. I feel that now that April is a teenager, there's no need for Venus (there never really was, anyway).

Shark_Blade 06-07-2013 07:21 PM

Because I don't care for her.

alliance 06-07-2013 07:39 PM

Even if this current April sucks ass i still would say absolutely not..

But this April is damn AWESOME actually so to hell with venus..

BubblyShell22 06-08-2013 08:06 AM

Because Venus is a horrible character and a huge waste of space.

DonatelloNinja82 06-08-2013 01:44 PM

Venus is just awful. Does this even need to be a poll?

Foot Soldier Clang 06-08-2013 02:16 PM

I don't hate Venus like other dromers do, but I do see her as unnecessary. She neither adds any dynamic to the turtles as a character, and barely contributed to the plots she was involved in. I wouldn't mind a re-imagining of the character, but I would also be just as satisfied if she never appeared again.

CowabungaMikey 06-08-2013 02:43 PM

I would like to see her in the show, but she's not neccesary.

AnarkyLantern 06-08-2013 06:35 PM

I would have her be a gen 2 turtle.

kelligrafie 06-10-2013 12:45 PM

Erghhh guys? :teek:

SOURCE

Second picture down, zoom in.

You can see quite clearly the word 'Venus' written across a bomb. With a blonde (human) female dressed as a ninja turtle.

Apologies if this has been posted before but I only just saw a photo on facebook from April (month, not the character). I'm not sure if Argos is in the USA, but it's a legit UK company at least.

Maybe she's the anti-Karai meets sexier, actually-with-talent female Pulverizer...

TurtleTitan97 06-10-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kelligrafie (Post 1109687)
Erghhh guys? :teek:

SOURCE

Second picture down, zoom in.

You can see quite clearly the word 'Venus' written across a bomb. With a blonde (human) female dressed as a ninja turtle.

Apologies if this has been posted before but I only just saw a photo on facebook from April (month, not the character). I'm not sure if Argos is in the USA, but it's a legit UK company at least.

Maybe she's the anti-Karai meets sexier, actually-with-talent female Pulverizer...

:o Wow.

Y'know, if Venus did appear in the show looking like that, I'd totally be okay with it.

kelligrafie 06-10-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1109701)
:o Wow.

Y'know, if Venus did appear in the show looking like that, I'd totally be okay with it.

The cosplay crew would certainly have fun there. She looks like a TMNT fangirl.

Shark_Blade 06-10-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelligrafie (Post 1109687)
Erghhh guys? :teek:

SOURCE

Second picture down, zoom in.

You can see quite clearly the word 'Venus' written across a bomb. With a blonde (human) female dressed as a ninja turtle.

Apologies if this has been posted before but I only just saw a photo on facebook from April (month, not the character). I'm not sure if Argos is in the USA, but it's a legit UK company at least.

Maybe she's the anti-Karai meets sexier, actually-with-talent female Pulverizer...

http://i.imgur.com/a0FV8CP.jpg

Hmm.. she looks like a blonde Poison Ivy. Her weapon is a giant bomb? Her figure and shape does look waay better than teenage April.

I think that's just a design made for the tent only though.

Foot Soldier Clang 06-10-2013 07:47 PM

That's pretty cool. They made Venus into a WWII style decal.

gobo 06-10-2013 08:08 PM

Looks like Zach's friend, Caitlyn, grew up to be a cosplay model.

DonatelloNinja82 06-10-2013 08:40 PM

:tconfuse:interesting...i wonder why she is there?

raph27 06-10-2013 08:43 PM

Sure...I'll take Venus now!:tgrin::o

DonatelloNinja82 06-10-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome13 (Post 1109838)
Sure...I'll take Venus now!:tgrin::o

bwahahaha to your signature!!

Refractive Reflections 06-10-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1109808)
http://i.imgur.com/a0FV8CP.jpg

Hmm.. she looks like a blonde Poison Ivy. Her weapon is a giant bomb? Her figure and shape does look waay better than teenage April.

I think that's just a design made for the tent only though.

Hmmm, I wonder... and this is a random guess. But I wonder if they might make Venus start out as a human and then become a mutant, similar to Mona Lisa, and becomes some mutant salamander or turtle. Just a shot in the dark, that's all.

...But that is funny it would be on the TMNT 2012 play tent. I guess maybe the "Easter eggs" for the Nick series, are not only on the show but in the merchandise as well...? ;):lol: I have a feeling somebody in manufacturing must have put it there as an inside joke for the parents of these fan children, and that the parents would get a laugh seeing it while setting up the tent. I mean the parental generation would know who "Venus" is, more than the children who are actually using that play tent. Do you think the joke is... "The most offensive weapon for the Battle Tank (or toward the TMNT franchise) is to have a weapon named 'Venus.'"? (Since that character was a "bomb" since she was received so poorly.) Just throwin' it out there.... :lol:

Thanks kelligrafie for showing it to us! :)

drgon78 06-11-2013 06:49 AM

Not much of a fan for blondes myself so still wouldn't want her in the show.

Karai Samurai 06-11-2013 08:20 AM

What everyone else said. She sucks.

kelligrafie 06-11-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1109808)
I think that's just a design made for the tent only though.

But why would they would put it on the tent if she wasn't going to be in the show in some way.

That's a waste of ink, plus I don't see how kids today would know who Venus was unless their parents or someone had introduced them to the turtles and they were going through the back series? Most would just be aware of the current series I think.

I'm can't speak for the US but here in the UK, the other series such as the live action and '87 haven't been shown on TV for years, that I know of.

I just think it'd be a wasted in-joke y'know?

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 08-15-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1109808)
http://i.imgur.com/a0FV8CP.jpg

Hmm.. she looks like a blonde Poison Ivy. Her weapon is a giant bomb? Her figure and shape does look waay better than teenage April.

I think that's just a design made for the tent only though.

It's pin-up or cheesecake. Doesn't mean her weapon is a bomb at all.
But it's very odd to have sexy pin-up on a kid's tent... but this is a UK product so... I 'unno.

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Originally Posted by kelligrafie (Post 1109996)
But why would they would put it on the tent if she wasn't going to be in the show in some way.

That's a waste of ink, plus I don't see how kids today would know who Venus was unless their parents or someone had introduced them to the turtles and they were going through the back series? Most would just be aware of the current series I think.

I'm can't speak for the US but here in the UK, the other series such as the live action and '87 haven't been shown on TV for years, that I know of.

I just think it'd be a wasted in-joke y'know?

So you're suggesting they are leaving (sourdough) breadcrumbs for older fans on a children's play tent from across the pond, just to tease or tell us that a character that a majority fanbase disliked to the point that the creators do not acknowledge her COULD appear in the new show that everyone does like?

:lol:


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