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Leo656 06-21-2003 10:28 PM

What the hell is wrong with Warner Brothers?
 
This might just be me needing to vent, but... why does Warner Brothers suck so bad?

I mean, they're making a new Superman movie that's coming out..... hopefully sometime before 2010. They're also making a new Batman movie that's coming out.... someday. Hopefully.

So why is it that the best actor they can come up with for either is Ashton f*cking Kutcher?!

I mean, WB was pushing hard for him to play Superman, but he turned it down. NOW they are dead-set on him being Batman. WHY? Can't they see that the guy not only CAN'T act, ISN'T funny, but has NONE of the qualities required for either character?

Does Marvel know something DC doesn't? Why is it that Marvel can hire a director, a scriptwriter, and a cast, and make a movie that takes characters I don't care about in the least (X-Men, Daredevil, The Hulk) and turns it into an enjoyable experience? And WHY is it that WB can take characters I care passionately about (Superman, Batman) and do everything in their power to SCREW THEM UP?

The rumors about Manson as Scarecrow were bad enough, but if f*cking Kelso plays Batman I will NOT see the movie, NOT buy the DVD and NOT watch it on cable unless forced to at gunpoint.

Keep an eye out for "Dude, Where's My Batcave?", apparently coming from WB some time within the next two years.

XERO 06-21-2003 10:53 PM

"Dude, Where's my Kryptonite?" :lol:

Leo656 06-21-2003 10:57 PM

Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

XERO 06-21-2003 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

Now that's what I call gettin' Punk'D!

cqb101 06-21-2003 11:07 PM

I think Ashton Kutcher is hilarious on that 70's show, but he can't do a serious role.

ironhelix 06-21-2003 11:17 PM

I know this might be stretching it, but keep an open mind: What if it was made with Ashton in the lead and it surprised the hell out of everyone? I know that each of us HAD to have seen a movie that we either said we would NEVER see in ANY form because "that guy" was in it, or we just weren't thrilled about it because "that guy" was in it. In either case we saw that movie one way or another and we liked it. For me, the only one I can think of was The Sum of All Fears. I doubted B.Aff because he just didn't look right for the role. But I went and saw it anyway and found out that I was wrong. I'm sure there is at least one other.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 01:31 AM

One other thing that's wrong with Warner Bros. is how they release their DVD movies. They still use the damn "Snapper" cases, as opposed to everyone else.

Kid Icarus 06-22-2003 02:12 AM

*wishes the little pucking smiliey was in the TD's list*

Oh well... this will have to work: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 04:24 AM

They haven't done a good Batmna Movie since Batman returns, So the lead actor doesn't matter much. Still makes you wonder whats wrong with them. Batman/Bruce Wayne should be a matur and very intelligent character, Ashton Kutcher certainly does not fit to that description. Before tere were Rumours about Christian Bale being next Batman, now he would have been good choice for the role.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 05:31 AM

I would have chosen Christian Bale to be Batman, and Brendan Fraser as Superman.

That Matt Guy 06-22-2003 05:43 AM

Why don't they just get somebody like Bob Saget?

liltimmyw 06-22-2003 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew138
Why don't they just get somebody like Bob Saget?

Bob Saget is the shiznit. Ashton Kutcher isn't.

Brodie 06-22-2003 06:46 AM

I think the only guy I see playing Superman is Tom Welling, but then again, I don't. I can't see that kid in tights. The only Batman I respect as Batman is Micheal Keaton, But maybe if they got some gritty looking guy....But I doubt it.

Leo656 06-22-2003 06:48 AM

Apparently the director wants Guy Pearce to be Batman but WB is dead-set on Kutcher, and you just know that they'll replace the director if they have to if it means getting what they want without a struggle.

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 07:27 AM

So they want to make it a typical teen movie.. I wish WB didn't own the Batman license.

Leo656 06-22-2003 07:38 AM

I'm starting to wish WB didn't own ANY DC licenses, period. All they care about is money, not making good movies. That's further proven by the fact that the best they can do for both Superman AND Batman is casting the hottest young teen movie actors who are clearly out of their depth, or by pushing for Keanu Reeves to play Superman when his three biggest acting roles were Speed, The Matrix, and freakin' Bill and Ted.

It's obvious that Warner Brothers has no clue whatsoever how to adapt these characters, and I'm now 100% convinced that Superman and Batman, should they ever see the light of day, will be awful.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
I'm starting to wish WB didn't own ANY DC licenses, period. All they care about is money, not making good movies. That's further proven by the fact that the best they can do for both Superman AND Batman is casting the hottest young teen movie actors who are clearly out of their depth, or by pushing for Keanu Reeves to play Superman when his three biggest acting roles were Speed, The Matrix, and freakin' Bill and Ted.

It's obvious that Warner Brothers has no clue whatsoever how to adapt these characters, and I'm now 100% convinced that Superman and Batman, should they ever see the light of day, will be awful.

So you deny that Smallville is good?

ironhelix 06-22-2003 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie
I think the only guy I see playing Superman is Tom Welling, but then again, I don't. I can't see that kid in tights. The only Batman I respect as Batman is Micheal Keaton, But maybe if they got some gritty looking guy....But I doubt it.

Tom Welling would be great, but not until after Smallville is completed.

Brodie 06-22-2003 08:42 AM

Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

ironhelix 06-22-2003 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie
Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

1-3 lines per episode is WAY exaggerating his character. If you wanna complain about someone getting low amount of lines, Whitney from the first season is a better choice.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie
Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

Bill & Ted? Who are you talking about?

Leo656 06-22-2003 09:23 AM

You never saw "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" or "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"? Great flicks, very funny, but a big reason why some people (like me) have a hard time taking Keanu seriously as an actor.

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. I don't get how WB can make good TV versions of these characters (like the Batman and Superman cartoons) but then do everything possible to screw them up for the big screen.

liltimmyw 06-22-2003 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ironhelix
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodie
Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

Bill & Ted? Who are you talking about?

You've never heard of Bill & Ted? Dear Lord......

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 10:20 AM

I have never seen Bogus Jorney, but the first one is great. Still I have no problem accepting him as action Start, He proved himself in Matrix. But no, he wouldn't be a good Superman and Neither would be Tom Welling. He is way to young for that role. He is perfect for young Clark Kent tough.

TheShredder 06-22-2003 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident.

Good by accident!? What the hell do you mean by that!?

cqb101 06-22-2003 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheShredder
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656
And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident.

Good by accident!? What the hell do you mean by that!?

He's saying he didn't know WB could produce anything that good, so it has to be by accident.

Leo656 06-22-2003 11:53 AM

Pretty much, yeah.

It's like anything WB touches is destined to fail, like that new Looney Tunes movie, so when they actually do anything good it's like "holy sh*t".

gobo 06-22-2003 01:18 PM

In as much as I'd love to see a GL movie, I think this thread decently explains why I want it to remain just a dream. But, which one sold movie rights first anyway, Marvel or DC? Which one EXISTED first?
Hmm... I wonder how long until we see an Usagi Yojimbo movie... Since that's out of WB's grasp (since they probably wouldn't grab comic properties that aren't DC), we can rest a little easier that it may fall into CONSIDERATE hands if at all. Shiz, I think I'll just go to film school for a few years, and do this myself... Hooray for Jo... and his great idea.

gobo 06-22-2003 01:23 PM

Oh! Did anyone ever see An Evening With Kevin Smith? They had a little segment about his proposed involvement with the Superman movie with Barbara Streisand's ex-hairdressed. "Did he tell you about the giant spider?" Priceless, yo.

Leo656 06-22-2003 01:55 PM

"And then I went to see 'Wild Wild West'... and all of a sudden... f*cking giant spider shows up!"

Yeah, that DVD is hysterical :lol:

Brodie 06-22-2003 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo-jo
Oh! Did anyone ever see An Evening With Kevin Smith? They had a little segment about his proposed involvement with the Superman movie with Barbara Streisand's ex-hairdressed. "Did he tell you about the giant spider?" Priceless, yo.

Hell yeah..

"Kal-El? Who the **** is that?"

"Tim Burton's assistant's name is Bumble Ward....Let me repeat...There is someone on this planet with the name of Bumble....Ward..."

Raven 06-22-2003 02:47 PM

Ashton Kutcher as batman my ass! :x the day he gets to play as batman is the day the F***** world is gone!

I thought it was funny when I heard george c was playing batman but this is retared!

Dane E5R 06-22-2003 03:15 PM

You all realize people said the exact same things about Michael Keaton when they first heard that he got the role..

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 03:22 PM

Actually I don't remember hearing anything like that. And just look at the guy! Maybe after 20 years he could play Batman.

Leo656 06-22-2003 03:33 PM

Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 03:41 PM

Batman is very intelligent character, a Detective. Who thinks of intelligence after seeing that face? Besides that he is to young, and Like Leo said, He can't realy act. Or if he can he hasn't showed it yet. In any case he should Never be Batman. But if WB truly wants to make another bad Batman movie, they have the right to. But of course it's unfair to the character.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
You never saw "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" or "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"? Great flicks, very funny, but a big reason why some people (like me) have a hard time taking Keanu seriously as an actor.

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. I don't get how WB can make good TV versions of these characters (like the Batman and Superman cartoons) but then do everything possible to screw them up for the big screen.

Of course I heard of them! They were the shiznit! I asked that because somebody posted the comment "Bill & Ted was his best movie" right after my comment about Tom Welling. I was like WTF? Tom was going thru puberty when that movie came out. What makes it worse is his same paragraph continued with Smallville.

ironhelix 06-22-2003 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

Not only that, but doesn't he belong to the same midget club as Tom Cruise?

Dane E5R 06-22-2003 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656
Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

They were skeptical because Keaton did comedy before Batman, just like Ashton. Believe it or not, he really shines on Punk'D. He's got really good natural, BELIEVABLE improvisation skills. I have no doubt whatsoever that he can play a serious role if given the opportunity.

Karpo_007 06-22-2003 03:53 PM

Maybe a serious role, but certainly not Batman. Won't state the reasons again, they are in my previous post.


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