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Slap-Happy 07-05-2013 01:54 AM

What do you think the turtles will look like?
 
Not "What would you like the turtles to look like" but what you think they WILL look like. I'd like to see what you guys are expecting in terms of design.

Honestly, I'm expecting something like this:
http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Leonardo-211451625
http://pinkhavok.deviantart.com/art/...0704878&qo=168
http://heewonlee.deviantart.com/art/...0704878&qo=118

With a little bit of this:
http://armians.deviantart.com/art/tm...-don-125596903

Shark_Blade 07-05-2013 02:05 AM

Grizzly and a bit scary I think.

Luckyday 07-05-2013 03:14 AM

I hope that skin and shell texture will look like that.

http://images.xpock.com.br/2012/jane.../ima25_020.jpg


but with the built and head like here
http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Leonardo-211451625
but with pupils. The white eye would just look too creepy in live action unless they were the light reflection in their eyes like here.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/4...dce1f8c203.jpg

snake 07-05-2013 04:09 AM

Hopefully something good. I don't really want huge disgusting looking turtles.

CinematicESP 07-05-2013 10:35 AM

I get the feeling they'll look more badass than cartoony, but not on the gross side like a lot of fan art seems to be. I imagine something like this...

http://www.justpressplay.net/images/...les_banner.jpg

Mixed with more turtle-like skin like in this one...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xeOzo0Axgj...o_redesign.jpg

Goon 07-05-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CinematicESP (Post 1119777)
I get the feeling they'll look more badass than cartoony, but not on the gross side like a lot of fan art seems to be. I imagine something like this...

http://www.justpressplay.net/images/...les_banner.jpg

Mixed with more turtle-like skin like in this one...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xeOzo0Axgj...o_redesign.jpg

This is probably what I think they will go for.. The first design I like but I fear they will do a little of the second one to "modernize" them. Hopefully they look really good either way.

Bob 07-05-2013 11:14 AM

I do like the idea of each of the turtles having their own “style”, like the second image above.

Coola Yagami 07-05-2013 12:13 PM

Maybe the out of the shadows design?

gobo 07-05-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1119800)
Maybe the out of the shadows design?

I wouldn't doubt it.

Refractive Reflections 07-05-2013 04:23 PM

I'm hoping that they don't look too grizzly ("Out of the Shadows") or menancing (i.e. http://davidrapozaart.deviantart.com...ardo-211451625 ), otherwise it will look like the CGI team is just trying too hard to make this movie dark and gritty. They don't have to be OT/1990 movie cute or anything, but let's not have their faces be so distracting that it takes away from their "humanity", so to speak, where the shock value of their appearance distracts viewers from the events of the movie far longer than when the viewers first see them.

chrisdude 07-05-2013 04:31 PM

I'm still expecting them to look more humanoid than we've ever seen in the past. Something like the Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man. That's just based on how the actors seem to look the part, if you know what I mean. I just can't look those actors without thinking that their faces will show through the CG designs. It has to be part of why they were chosen.

Candy Kappa 07-05-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1119885)
I'm still expecting them to look more humanoid than we've ever seen in the past. Something like the Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man. That's just based on how the actors seem to look the part, if you know what I mean. I just can't look those actors without thinking that their faces will show through the CG designs. It has to be part of why they were chosen.

They could do it like Bill Nighy in POTC, he is very creature heavy over human. Although, the Turtle actors don't have make-up effects around their eyes and mouth

chrisdude 07-05-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1119889)
They could do it like Bill Nighy in POTC, he is very creature heavy over human. Although, the Turtle actors don't have make-up effects around their eyes and mouth

What does that makeup do?

Ironically, I can't find any photos of Rhys Ifans in motion capture dots, or anything like that. I know at least some Lizard scenes were entirely CG, but I expected he at least played the character sometimes...

CyberCubed 07-05-2013 04:46 PM

They're using those blonde human faces as CG material so they may have a human look.

Candy Kappa 07-05-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1119896)
What does that makeup do?

Ironically, I can't find any photos of Rhys Ifans in motion capture dots, or anything like that. I know at least some Lizard scenes were entirely CG, but I expected he at least played the character sometimes...

The make-up was to mesh the actor with the CG, texture similarity etc. Davy Jones eyes and mouth was Bill's

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2006-11/26299492.jpg

Rhys might have just done capture for the face, similar to the CG Beowulf movie where body and facial motion capture was done separately.

TigerClaw 07-05-2013 05:20 PM

The interesting part is what are they gonna look like with the mouths? in the cartoons there mouths always looked big. If they were to make them more human, There mouths would look as small as a human being. With the motion capture stuff, They will be able to have the Turtles emote better then the rubber suit ones from the previous films.

gobo 07-05-2013 05:26 PM

As long as they don't look like Beiboids, I think that's all that matters.

Venom 07-05-2013 05:56 PM

The first fan art image will most likely influence the overall look of the Turtles, as that seems to have struck a nerve in the mainstream consciousness when people look for "realistic Ninja Turtles", but I imagine they'll keep the Nick design so when Playamtes makes action figures they just have to retool the molds to fit the "movie look".

Who knows, we may get modern versions of the "Movie Star" line with the rubberized skin and Nick gear.

Bob 07-05-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1119885)
I'm still expecting them to look more humanoid than we've ever seen in the past. Something like the Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man. That's just based on how the actors seem to look the part, if you know what I mean. I just can't look those actors without thinking that their faces will show through the CG designs. It has to be part of why they were chosen.

Yeah, I was thinking that. I mean, each of the actor's actually "look" like the character they're portraying. For example, the guy playing Michelangelo looks like the younger, fun-loving one and the guy playing Donny actually looks like a science geek. The actor's likenesses can't be a coincidence.

alliance 07-05-2013 07:32 PM

something like this:

http://www.xmascotcostume.com/media/...Costume_1_.jpg

Powder 07-06-2013 05:49 AM

I'm actually kinda rooting for the OOTS designs at this point, honestly. If they look that good or better I'll be happy.

Zulithe 07-06-2013 08:45 AM

Hopefully not like huge mounds of muscle like in some of those pics... they are teenagers... also, ninjas NOT bodybuilders... i'd like to see those aspects of their physique represented. I think Nick does a good job at it.

Genesis 07-06-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1120056)
I think Nick does a good job at it.

What, with blocky limbs?

I get where you're coming from, though. A lot of artists portray them as being excessively bulky, and it can be annoying.

Zulithe 07-07-2013 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Genesis (Post 1120083)
What, with blocky limbs?

That's a style choice, but they don't overstate their muscles like a lot of art does. I think Nick does a good job of blending both what a turtle's limbs look like mixed with a teenager who's been training daily for a martial arts competition or whatnot.

Better than this:

http://cl.jroo.me/z3/7/x/Q/d/a.aaa-M...ja-Turtles.jpg

Refractive Reflections 07-07-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1120056)
Hopefully not like huge mounds of muscle like in some of those pics... they are teenagers... also, ninjas NOT bodybuilders... i'd like to see those aspects of their physique represented. I think Nick does a good job at it.

I see what you mean. I always thought the physique of OT Turtles (blue sky or red sky) was just right because it displayed their mutant strength but it wasn't over the top (i.e. in the X-Men cartoon). The 2K3 Turtles seemed more like twenty-something Turtles and kind of "roided up". But with the Nick Turtles they appear a bit too weak if the show wanted to incorporate any fighting moves that involved lifting any enemies/people up.

Hannurdock 07-07-2013 06:47 AM

I'm hoping for darker and realism. I want a darker film, like the way Christopher Nolan remade the Batman franchise. We've had happy and kiddy for years, it would be nice to have a more serious take on the boys.

Zulithe 07-07-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JYX (Post 1120267)
But with the Nick Turtles they appear a bit too weak if the show wanted to incorporate any fighting moves that involved lifting any enemies/people up.

Perhaps... but they are mutants, anything can be explained. You could also say that, because of them being mutants, they can have musculature that's way beyond what a typical teenager may have.

But then I wonder, if they wanted them to look like Hulks with huge muscles, why make them teenagers at all? If they are teenagers then try to make them look like teenagers. Splinter is an older man and he looks like an older rat, he certainly didn't grow huge muscles... so the turtles should look like teenagers as turtles.

Yeah not a fan of the 2k3 look. It has its fans, that's fine. Just glad we are past that.

I think the 1990 film did a lot right regarding the look & feel, tone, heck even the music. The costumes were about as good as could be accomplished at that time, so I definitely give it a pass. But now that there's total freedom in how they design their appearance, no longer confined to what a man in a suit can accomplish, so much more is possible

Whatswiththeheadbands? 07-07-2013 09:49 AM

i hope they go for a look like the 2007 movie, but with better cgi, after all, if they want this film to do well, they need to make it appeal to the kids. if they make it too realistic, then kids won't go to see it, and they will lose money

Lord Nightwalker 07-07-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hannurdock (Post 1120280)
I'm hoping for darker and realism. I want a darker film, like the way Christopher Nolan remade the Batman franchise. We've had happy and kiddy for years, it would be nice to have a more serious take on the boys.

As do I. But that's not what we are going to get, especialy since it's stuck in their heads that for children to like it and make oodles of cash it has to be dumbed down to rediculous levels. Forget about all the older fans, and all the tweens, and the comparible films that have done well before it.
Forget about the potential to be great, let's just make an all flash no substance, toy commercial movie. I fear that's all we shall get.

gobo 07-07-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarana-X (Post 1119828)

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Originally Posted by D-Nizzy (Post 1120182)
Ah, Raph's vehicle mode. I guess we can stop speculating on what Bay's turtles will look like.

:tlol::tthumbsu: :tlol::tthumbsu: :tlol::tthumbsu: :tlol::tthumbsu:

TMNT is cooler than MOTU 07-07-2013 12:25 PM

Expect something VERY different than anything we've seen before. Trust me. :tcool:

chrisdude 07-07-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whatswiththeheadbands? (Post 1120328)
i hope they go for a look like the 2007 movie, but with better cgi, after all, if they want this film to do well, they need to make it appeal to the kids. if they make it too realistic, then kids won't go to see it, and they will lose money

I loved the 2007 designs...

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Originally Posted by TMNT is cooler than MOTU (Post 1120386)
Expect something VERY different than anything we've seen before. Trust me. :tcool:

Agreed. If nothing else, these are the first CG turtles designed to mesh with the real world. That alone will make them unlike anything we've seen.

Plus, Ritchson and Eastman have raved about the designs, without being asked. People ask about the movie, and these guys talk about the designs. I can't wait to see them. :teek:

Refractive Reflections 07-07-2013 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1120281)
Perhaps... but they are mutants, anything can be explained. You could also say that, because of them being mutants, they can have musculature that's way beyond what a typical teenager may have.

I guess so... :ohwell: I guess just visually it may be hard for the audience to accept Turtles with the Nick physique being able to lift enemies.

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1120281)
But then I wonder, if they wanted them to look like Hulks with huge muscles, why make them teenagers at all? If they are teenagers then try to make them look like teenagers. Splinter is an older man and he looks like an older rat, he certainly didn't grow huge muscles... so the turtles should look like teenagers as turtles.

I can see your point, but since we're dealing with "mutants" and the Turtles having the "heroic" status, I think it's expected for the Turtles to have some superhuman strength and for it to show visually.

As for "why make them teenagers at all", besides keeping with tradition in leaving the "teenage" aspect of TMNT, most writers/storytellers like to use adolescents as a time of self-discovery when emotions are at an all-time high when everything feels new in approaching adulthood, so that's probably why the "teenage" aspect is left in the story. But from a pure aesthetic viewpoint, then yes I can completely see your reasoning as to why bother making them teenagers at all.

...Maybe that's why Micheal Bay was considering shortening it to "Ninja Turtles" in the beginning. ;):lol:

Andrew NDB 07-08-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Hannurdock (Post 1120280)
I'm hoping for darker and realism. I want a darker film, like the way Christopher Nolan remade the Batman franchise. We've had happy and kiddy for years, it would be nice to have a more serious take on the boys.

I like that way you think.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 07-08-2013 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1120548)
I loved the 2007 designs...

i do too, but what i am saying is they should make the cgi better, but sticking with the same overall design

DONATELLO DUZMACHINES 07-08-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1120056)
Hopefully not like huge mounds of muscle like in some of those pics... they are teenagers... also, ninjas NOT bodybuilders... i'd like to see those aspects of their physique represented. I think Nick does a good job at it.

Completely agree with this. I personally hope that the Nick design or the more detailed Santlouco design. (current artist on the on IDW series)

Candy Kappa 07-09-2013 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JYX (Post 1120566)
I guess so... :ohwell: I guess just visually it may be hard for the audience to accept Turtles with the Nick physique being able to lift enemies.

There a huge difference in fit and bulky. The Turtles don't need Conan the Barbarians physique to lift heavy stuff.

Refractive Reflections 07-09-2013 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1121030)
There a huge difference in fit and bulky. The Turtles don't need Conan the Barbarians physique to lift heavy stuff.

For sure, I mean I don't mind the Teenage Turtles looking more normally fit, but others may not accept a more "fit" physique if they're lifting say a 220 lb person over their heads.

Welmanshire 07-18-2013 11:03 AM



This.

Bob 07-18-2013 12:02 PM

Why have you got it inclosed in a spoiler tag? Anyway, I quite like that. It looks like the Dave Rapoza art.


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