Why does everybody think that OT Casey is more badass then 2k3 Casey
 

Once you actually think about OT Casey feats they aren't that impressive, sure he went mano y mano with the shredder but basically everyone and their 10 year old beat or at least outsmarted shredder while 2k3 Casey did pretty good for a guy with no formal training

I dunno 2k3 casey to me was a panzy to be honest

Well having a Jersey shore voice didn't help.

He was from NY/NJ area what kind of accent is he supposed to have?

The voice was menaacing with Pat Fraley doing his Dirty Harry impression. Also, Casey Jones was over the top and tear anything apart tht the censors would allow. That was where his humor came from. Never removing the mask made him mysterious while we saw 2003 Casey Jone's face too much.Casey Jones of the 2003 cartoon was also clumsy and not too sharp while the '87 cartoon version was not too bright himself, he seemed to be decent intellct in what we saw. For those reasons Casey Jones is much more a badbutt in the '87 cartoon than the 03. It also helped having Casey in fewer episodes. Casey Jone is not a character I think should be overexposed. It makes his appearances better.

He was a psycho in the OT.

We never even saw him remove his mask so we never even saw his face!

That's what I like about him. :)

The 2k3 Casey is just another jock nothing special imo. He's also whiny and and a git which makes me dislike him even more.

Yep! Casey on the OT was just crazy!!

His accent was fake, generic and was the polar opposite of subtle.

Although in my opinion most of the voices were obnoxious and cartoonish.

I've never seen OT Casey but 2k3 Casey is the polar opposite of badass. Partly because he like, never puts the mask on.

Because OT Casey was crazy and not afraid to beat anybody as he saw fit. 2K3 Casey was goofier and used more as a comedic device than anything else. His first appearance was the best though.

Was...was Fred Wolf Casey supposed to be a badass? I thought he was just supposed to be flippin' insane and hilariously violent, which isn't the same thing.

It's like apples to oranges, too. I thought 4Kids Casey was almost too dumb for his own universe, but he's still from a radically different type of story than Fred Wolf Casey is, and so comparing them seems a bit odd.

It's funny in the comics and 2003 show him and April are lovers. In the OT, they are just friends.......or are they?

OT April does have his phone number. wink wink ;)

2K3 Casey isn't certifiable enough, I suppose.

OT Casey was literally psychotic, whereas 2k3 Casey wasn't, plus 2k3 Casey was annoying at times.


Just look at his Job Interview in the OT......

Now that I've seen OT Casey (thanks MikeandRaph87;) )
OT Casey: badass fighter
2k3 Casey: dumbass

....Because he is..

2K3 Casey was okay as it was explained why he became a vigilante and having a vendetta against the Purple Dragons. OT Casey would just break your legs if he catches you jaywalking or littering. I do get a good chuckle everytime he says "Stop, Lawbreaker!"

I love the OT version of Casey, its still one of my favorite Action Figures of all time. However, he was not a very accurate representation of the Original Character in the comics.

Casey wasn't Dumb, but he wasn't exactly a genius either. I feel that got overdone in the 2k3 series.

I am looking forward to the new younger version in the Viacom series. His designs definitely look BA. However I can see this going the same way as 2k3 where we see Casey as a regular recurring character, most likely sans mask too often.

However, if he refuses to listen to the Turtles Advice I can see him simply showing up mask and armor all, whenever he pleases... and SLOWLY becoming a member of the inner circle.

Re-watching Season 3 on DVD...
OT Casey is a psychopath! lol

2k3 Casey went soft really soon.

OT Casey is just in-freaking-sane and I love it!

What! Cartoonish voices in a cartoon!? What the hell were you excepting?
Actually he was, if you only use the Raphael Micro Series as your basis.

Casey starts to suck whenever he starts settling down with April... because then it becomes a matter of 'he has to grow up and stop being a vigilantee' and other such nonsense. Noone ever tells Batman to grow up and hang up the cowl.

Except for every girlfriend he ever had.... Even Cat-Woman!

cus OT casey wasn't a wuss. he acted like a bad ass insane nut ball who craved justice. 2003 casey acted like a 7 year old idiot most of the time.

the voice!!!

esp in the first one

always got chills.. "SOMEHOW.... I THINK HES RIGHT""

I think people like OT Casey because he was insane!! I know that's why I liked him despite the fact it was a serious misrepresentation of his character. Seriously, Casey is the only person who can go on a job interview wearing a mask and swing around a bat and get the job! :tlol:

It seems that OT Casey was raised in a rougher environment that 4kids Casey since he never really has any good friends and seems obsessed with even the pettiest crime to arrest somebody without even a hint of a warning. He does mellow a bit on his final couple appearances (including a team up with April on his final episode), but remains more tough than 2k3 at any point.

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And Alfred in The Dark Knight Rises.

lol That was a break-up moment, wasn't it?

Except in the Dark Knight Rises when Alfred says that to him... etc.

OT Casey was hilarious but really, he haven't done much other than breaking stuff in the name of justice, 2k3 was a much more developed version of him, and it was much closer to the original comics.

But outside the comics, I still love the Movie 1 version of him, the most.

I second that.

Character development is usually a good thing, but in the case of a cartoon Casey (try saying that three times quickly), I think moral concerns bog him down. Casey was amusing in the Fred Wolf show, but I very much doubt they'd ever get to keep using him long-term for such a shallow, psychotic vigilante role, because if he's a protagonist then kids might start rooting for psychotic vigilantes instead of laughing at them. The only way to do that is to break him out of that mold, because cartoons obsess over black and white morality; in their mind somebody can't be insane and violent and a hero. I disagree, of course. If the Mirage series did "Fallen Angel", Casey probably would have killed that scumbag at the end of it, and I'd think all the more of him for doing it. Yet for them to follow Mirage Casey in terms of getting with April, they had to dumb him down elsewhere. I'm worried they're going to do the same to 2012 Casey.

"Law Of Diminishing Returns". We saw too much of Casey in the newer show, and any "edge" he may have had was neutered through over-exposure, especially once he became "domesticated". We barely saw Casey in the OT, so it was almost like an "event" when he would show up.

The way OT Casey was portrayed, though, that would have gotten old quickly. Had he been more prominent, he would have been incredibly annoying.

The first movie version of Casey was probably the best, and that has a lot to do with the fact that it was a one-and-done portrayal that left no room for the character to become a parody of itself.

(Speak not to me of the third film; that was NOT Casey Jones, that was "K.C. Jones", Casey's identical yet wimpier, lamer, decidedly NON-confrontational twin brother who sometimes hangs out with the TMNT when Casey can't make bail or goes on vacation. Everyone knows that.)

Bastardized he may have been, but I enjoyed TMNT3 Casey a lot more than the TMNT3 Turtles. I also feel it's good for Casey to have a sense of humor, but it should be a gruff, sarcastic one.

Imagine TMNT 3, but with OT Casey instead. Things may have played out very differently...

(Scene: Turtles are back in their own time, in their lair, along with April. To their disgust, the ground they stand in is thick with entrails and human blood. On the far side of the room, Casey sits on the recliner watching TV, his feet resting on a mangy, blood-soaked "rug" that looks suspiciously like Master Splinter....)

Leo: "Um... Casey...? What happened here?!"
Casey (his voice a whispery monotone as in the OT): "I had to kill your pet rat. He was givin' me lip."
TMNT (in unison): "WHAT?!?"
April: "Casey, how COULD you?!"
Casey (calm): "NOBODY tells Casey Jones what to do! So I smashed him until he stopped talking. Rats aren't supposed to talk. Technically, he was breaking the law.. of NATURE!"
Mikey: "Uhhh, guys? What exactly are we standing in...?"
Raph: "I don't even wanna GUESS..."
Leo: "Uhhhh, Casey...? Where are our... 'guests'? You know, the ones we asked you to keep an eye on?!"
Casey: "They're dead. Everybody's dead."
Donnie: "Oh, man, I think I'm standing in brains..."
Raph: "Well that figures."
Casey: "They were cheating at floor hockey. Cheating is against the law!"
Leo: "I'm having second thoughts about this arrangement, Casey. We'll pay you for the full day, but you can probably just go home now."
Casey: "This show sucks. I can't find your remote control." (Smashes TV with hockey stick) "Now I can't see anything. The reception down here sucks."
Leo: "...And if a SWAT team shows up in your driveway, you can be sure we had NOTHING to do with it. Seriously. GO."

Ha.

Because he is.

Unfortunately, OT Casey is a crazy psychopath, so he can't be with the main characters.

For the record, nobody who walks around in public wearing sweatpants is a "badass". You can't be a "badass" if you dress like it's laundry day EVERY day, hockey mask or no.

I like it. Does that mean we can finally use Ralph, Leon, Dan, and Mickey, just for the NM Turtles?

Absolutely. Those were absolutely the Turtles' cousins from Allentown, PA who they never met nor mention because they're ashamed of them. And Venus, because nobody cares.

Fun Fact: There really is no "Splinter" in NM, he is just a mass hallucination shared between Dan, Ralph, Mickey and Leon, as they share a familial bond through schizophrenic psychosis. That's why "Splinter" looks like he was used to snake a toilet. Venus can't see him, but acts like she can because the others insist he's really there, and since her behavior on the show tells us that apparently she's spent her entire life huffing nitrous retard, she goes along with it rather than question it. She has no idea they're all insane.