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Chicagoguy 08-01-2013 02:44 PM

Season 1 Finale Spoilers
 
So I was out at Barnes and Noble today browsing around the store when I stumbled upon one of those children based TMNT novels. You may be familiar with these. They already released two Mutant Origin flip books (two turtles as the focus per book) that adapted the first episode. Well there was a new book that I found today called Showdown with Shredder that I assumed would have adapted an episode like The Guantlet. I opened the book, and I was shocked to find the first scene taking place in Dimension X! I flipped through the first few chapters and when it started talking about Kraang Prime and the invasion of Earth, I realized that this book was adapting the season finale. I did not want to completely spoil myself because I want to see the episode itself first, but I did see one major spoiler. They are going to introduce
Spoiler:
the Technodrome!

Andrew NDB 08-01-2013 02:45 PM

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[spoiler]They are going to introduce
Spoiler:
the Technodrome!

What an enormous surprise that is... *yawn*

ZariusTwo 08-01-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1133250)
What an enormous surprise that is... *yawn*

Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting

You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)

I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.

BubblyShell22 08-01-2013 06:27 PM

Well said, Zarius. And thanks, CG, for giving us that spoiler. I had a feeling that would happen, but I wasn't sure. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, and I certainly can't wait for the finale knowing this bit of information.

DonatelloNinja82 08-01-2013 06:31 PM

OMG so stoked now...I wanna go buy that book! I cannot wait to see 2k12 Dimension X...and what the Technodrome is going to look like!! :rolling:

MikeandRaph87 08-01-2013 06:40 PM

Good call, Zarius for saying exactly what I was thinking!

Thanks for the epic spoiler! Its great to see that coming up! I'm thrilled we will see this development!:rolling:

NinjaPug 08-01-2013 06:40 PM

Is the Technodrome not the big circular Kraang base that they're showing in the finale previews? Don't think it's much of a spoiler.

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 06:41 PM

Since its in IDW too I don't see why anyone is surprised.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 08:50 PM

THE TECHNODROME LIVES ON!!!

Nice find! I was scared to click the spoiler at first...but it didn't spoil the entire episode or anything so I'm good :) If I saw that book in person though, I don't know if I'd be able to resist reading through the whole thing :D Looks like I'll be staying away from Barnes and Noble for a while :lol:

Wait a minute.....If the Technodrome is gonna be in the show....THAN THAT MEANS THERE WILL (most likely) BE A PLAY SET OF IT!!!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/0b00efc94...40jmo1_500.gif

snake 08-01-2013 08:56 PM

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES

The Technodrome?!?!??! Awesome!

I'm so excited for this right now! And we might get a playset like Donatello19 said!

NinjaMan 08-01-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1133349)
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting

You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)

I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.

This post needs a like button. Well said Zarius, well said.

snake 08-01-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1133349)
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting

You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)

I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.

Thank you.
Andrew needs to be shut up for good, and told that he's not wanted unless he changes. If only we could convince him to leave.

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 09:21 PM

I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.

I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?

snake 08-01-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133512)
I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.

I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?

Easy! You don't. Accept difference.

Jester 08-01-2013 09:24 PM

I may disagree with Andrew, but Zarius often is just as inflammatory.

Heaven forbid we have differing opinions....you're never gonna sway Andrew and he's never gonna sway you. The net result of both of those posts comes to a big goose egg. At least Andrew didn't result to petty name calling and sniping about "never amounting to anything." He likes what he likes...and is vocal about it. I can't remember a time where ever said anything negative about FANS of the FW series, just the series itself.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133512)
I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?

Well...you know...without THE Krang as it's commander :D

Besides, Kraang Prime is "THE Krang" of this incarnation.

NinjaPug 08-01-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1133522)
Besides, Kraang Prime is "THE Krang" of this incarnation.

No he's not.

Jester 08-01-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133512)
I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.

I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?

http://i.qkme.me/35rsff.jpg

Donatello19 08-01-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1133527)
No he's not.

Um...she kinda is. She's the leader of the Kraang and the main Kraang in charge. That's like saying that Shredder isn't THE Shredder just because he has a different design :roll:

Jester 08-01-2013 09:37 PM

THE Kraang are Krang. Kraang prime is their leader, but the Kraang is a smash-up of the Utroms and Krang, who himself was a reworking of an Utrom anyway.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1133536)
THE Kraang are Krang. Kraang prime is their leader, but the Kraang is a smash-up of the Utroms and Krang, who himself was a reworking of an Utrom anyway.

Exactly! People should be happy that The Kraang are in this show at all. Honestly, Kraang Prime seems similar enough to "the Krang" anyway...

Coola Yagami 08-01-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1133534)
Um...she kinda is. She's the leader of the Kraang and the main Kraang in charge. That's like saying that Shredder isn't THE Shredder just because he has a different design :roll:

Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.

Coola Yagami 08-01-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1133349)
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting

You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)

I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.

Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.

Your post is out of line. Andrew is cool, and firm in his decisions. Like Jester says, he might insult the show but not the fans of it. Insulting him personally over a kid's show is out of line and ridiculous.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1133539)
Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.

Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...:trolleye:

snake 08-01-2013 09:45 PM

Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101 (Post 1133549)
Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

Exactly. This is what I've been trying to say! Thank you, Snakeweed.

Coola Yagami 08-01-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1133544)
Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...:trolleye:

Isn't that what Cybercubed wants?

On a similar note, can't people also accept that Kraang Prime ISN'T a re-imagining of Krang? The Kraang are based on the Utroms. Mortu was kinda like the leader of the Utroms (if not the leader). Does that make him THE KRANG in the 2K3 series? Does that make the Utrominator in TMNT Smash-Up THE KRANG of the game? Seriously, this THE Krang stuff this is such nonsense.

NinjaPug 08-01-2013 09:50 PM

Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1133556)
Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.

One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

Coola Yagami 08-01-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133564)
One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1133565)
But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?

Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

Galactus 08-01-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101 (Post 1133549)
Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

I suppose they are in the same vein that Krang himself was a reimagining of the TCRI aliens.

Strictly speaking so far the Kraang have more a lot more in common with the Utroms than they do with Krang were the only similarity is the name. In fact we even had someone involved with the show actualy make that exact claim.

In fact the only real difference is that the Kraang are evil and I'd argue that was supposed to be the impression the reader was supposed to get when they were first introduced until the end the big space arc. Not to mention we've had actual evil Utroms in the later Mirage books and in the '03 show.

Now that may change with the introduction of Kraang Prime but so far I just see the name as homage to a similar looking character and nothing else. Another good example is Traag. If the Nick writers had called him something like Talos or Destructor would anyone have really thought General Traag?

As for....
Spoiler:

the Technodrome. I'm on the fence of whether I'd like to see a newer, more alien design. I always felt the Technodrome was very terran in its design that I long assumed it was built on earth. If it's going to be from Dimension-X then maybe it should have a less earth-like look perhaps the earlier suggestion was correct at the floating vehicle in the trailer is it even though part of me would like a more faithful visual interpretation.

NinjaPug 08-01-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133564)
One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

The same season that Kraang Prime and The Kraang in general are introduced.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133567)
Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

If by 'they' you mean you, then yes. You went crazy when you assumed Prime was a female.

Are we really going to have this argument over again?

Jester 08-01-2013 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133567)
Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.

Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....

Coola Yagami 08-01-2013 10:19 PM

Now that you mention it.... we did always say the Kraang was a hivemind and they'd have a leader. Some people here ASSUMED the leader would be female, like the Borg Queen or the Alien Queen, but Nick themselves never said it would be female, even with Roseanne voicing it.

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1133577)
It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.

Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....

No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.

Before we even knew about Kraang Prime, people kept talking about a female Kraang on the forums. Rob Paulsen was the first to bring it up.

Jester 08-01-2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1133580)
No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.

That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.

Konchadunga 08-01-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1133543)
Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.

All of which makes his other behavior all the more repugnant. Dissing something people love on a forum full of the people who love it, in full knowledge of that fact, is, in fact, tantamount to dissing them. There is nothing at all to be accomplished from doing it, except for making yourself look like a dick. If Andrew can go and make a continuation for Volume 3, then good for him (though last I checked, even many Mirage fans don't like Volume 3), but why isn't that sort of constructive thing the only thing he does? I, for one, have a lot of stuff I hate; including popular things--among them, Dragonball Z, Invader Zim, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Rejected, ET, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and more stuff that makes me so unpopular, I don't even dare to say it. Yet am I going on any forums for people who love those things, and dissing them? No; because I'm not a dick. I'm content just to go to communities for people who love the same things as I do, so why respect people who aren't?

I, for one, am ashamed Krang and Shredder are so liberal to let these people stay on. They were kind enough to give all incarnations a forum; not just the ones they founded the site on, and some creeps insist on going to "enemy territory" and stirring crap up? That doesn't say anything good about the purists, and I'm not picking sides here; I wish Alliance and the other Fred Wolf purists were gone, too. But purism for or against anything is about the worst thing you can have on a forum that's supposed to welcome all incarnations. Actually no; purism is one of the worst things in any circumstance.

CyberCubed 08-01-2013 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1133582)
That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.

But he knew about it, so likely it was from production or early scripts that had Kraang Prime as female. They probably changed it to a male later on in the season.

Donatello19 08-01-2013 10:31 PM

So, Is Kraang Prime a male, a female..or unknown? Or is it just a genderless alien so we refer to it as IT? I'm confused..


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