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Andrew NDB 08-15-2013 01:30 AM

What's wrong with the Nick Technodrome™?
 
I just watched the two parter with my daughter and it was pretty cool... like a short film version of a TMNT motion picture (if it were projected through the lens of a Fred Wolf admirer, but whatever). I've seen a lot of comments from folks not being down with the new Technodrome design... and I'm not sure why that would be. It's circular, it's got that stupid eye (now more of an Eye of Sauron that's functional rather than something silly and superfluous on top), and it's actually functional and a legitimate threat (on a global scale, even) on the whole as opposed to the Fred Wolf... thing. Seems to be directly inspired by the Turtles Forever upgraded Technodrome and I feel that was an excellent starting point as that was the first and only time the Technodrome was ever even remotely intimidating.

I get that people want the giant tank with treads for the simple reason that that's what the Fred Wolf Technodrome had and it would rekindle people's childhoods blah blah before we all grew pubes and started to have to pay taxes and all that, but... really?

It can levitate! Over everything! And hit multiple targets with its multiple lasers from the high ground advantage. Why would it being ground-based make it better in any way, shape or form beyond folks' nostalgia for the damn toy or old cartoon?

BabyTurtles 08-15-2013 01:38 AM

I like it :D

....but I haven't really watched the OT turtles so I'm kinda biased......XD....

Davetello 08-15-2013 01:47 AM

The FW technodrome is better looking imo, but yeah, this new technodrome seems to be much more useful. Probably wouldn't get stuck at the bottom of the sea or in ice either.

I try not to be too shallow in life so I will say I like this technodrome a lot.

Eiko 08-15-2013 02:21 AM

I have no prob with it much better than the 80's. I think we should be happy thats it has made a return in such a cool looking way.

Wildcat 08-15-2013 02:31 AM

I liked it. Looks cool and fits with the show. But if we are talking design and functionality alone my favorite is the upgraded "Forever" technodrome.

It's slick orb look was perfect imo. Sometimes simpler is better.

Avatar Yuffie 08-15-2013 03:54 AM

I'm ok with it. Too... purple for my taste. But props that it tried to be it's own identity.

Seriously, how many people thought "Death Star" with Turtles Forever version?

Eiko 08-15-2013 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie (Post 1141643)
I'm ok with it. Too... purple for my taste. But props that it tried to be it's own identity.

Seriously, how many people thought "Death Star" with Turtles Forever version?

Yes i was thinking that when i saw it.

ToTheNines 08-15-2013 06:23 AM

Nothing wrong with it, I think it's plenty cool. Although, its big reveal wasn't as epic as intended, for me at least. I feel like the Turtles Forever version probably stole it's thunder a little bit.

I'll probably feel the same way about the IDW version, too. Unless they do something totally awesome with it.

Powder 08-15-2013 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1141675)
Nothing wrong with it, I think it's plenty cool. Although, its big reveal wasn't as epic as intended, for me at least. I feel like the Turtles Forever version probably stole it's thunder a little bit.

I'll probably feel the same way about the IDW version, too. Unless they do something totally awesome with it.

This completely.

Bry 08-15-2013 08:01 AM

The big appeal of the '87 Technodrome to me is that it's goofy as hell. A big golf ball-looking thing with tank treads, trident laser guns sticking out every which way and a giant eyeball on top? It's awesomely ludicrous! But that very reason is why I don't think the design really works outside of that world.

The Nick version is very well-suited to that series and the Kraang technology we've seen so far. I like it.

raph27 08-15-2013 08:16 AM

Wait....there's an eye on the Nick Drome? All I saw was the obvious as hell Eye of Sauron reference on top of TCRI. Screencap please.:D

BubblyShell22 08-15-2013 09:09 AM

I love this Technodrome to bits. It's awesome and really fits the tone of the Nick series, especially with all the lasers it fires. Can't wait to see more of it.

ObiWanFan4life 08-15-2013 09:13 AM

I thought the Technodrome was cool in the finale but my problem is that there was nothing special/cool done with it (Not yet at least.) It was just..... there. I look forward to seeing what's done with it in The Second season.

TurtleTitan97 08-15-2013 09:15 AM

I really like this version of the Technodrome.

CyberCubed 08-15-2013 10:09 AM

It just doesn't seem like the Technodrome. They could have called this ship any other name and nobody would even think it was the Technodrome.

Unlike Kraang Prime who is obviously intended to be Krang from the original series, this Technodrome is it in name-only. Would it be any different if they called it, "The Kraang mothership?"

Heather Breckel 08-15-2013 10:27 AM

I thought it was really cool looking and 1000X more threatening than the old one. I grew up on the old show and the old Technodrome just seemed kind of useless. It would just sit there. And sit there. I never found it to be any sort of threat, even as a kid.

CyberCubed 08-15-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Heather Breckel (Post 1141753)
I thought it was really cool looking and 1000X more threatening than the old one. I grew up on the old show and the old Technodrome just seemed kind of useless. It would just sit there. And sit there. I never found it to be any sort of threat, even as a kid.

Because that was the point, it never worked. If they had a fully operation Technodrome they would have stormed into the city every ep.

Andrew NDB 08-15-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1141786)
Because that was the point, it never worked. If they had a fully operation Technodrome they would have stormed into the city every ep.

But what's the old adage from Gurlyand... "If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there."

If you introduce what we're to believe is a giant tank superweapon... at some point it needs to be utilized or why even include it at all? The Technodrome finally powering up to full power and devastating NYC for a season finale would have provided both the fulfillment of the promise of the Technodrome's power and a pretty sobering "Oh sh*t!" moment for folks twiddling their thumbs through the filler episodes.

Gwydion 08-15-2013 01:46 PM

I like it from a functional standpoint, and I was super excited to see it in the episode, I just thought the design was a bit bland (and by that I mean in general, not simply compared to the OT Technodrome). I didn't need it to look more like the old Technodrome, but I would have liked it to have a bit more personality on it's own.

Just my opinion.

Donatello19 08-15-2013 04:01 PM

Obviously the older Technodrome is more iconic and everything, but the new one is so much cooler IMO.

Zulithe 08-15-2013 04:02 PM

I think it's safe to assume the Nick drome will be returning. It may have a lot of other tricks up its sleeve that make it interesting, so to anyone who didn't like it or thought it was disappointing, give it time. I have zero problems with the Nick drome, I just hope they do more with it.

RaphAndDonnie 08-15-2013 04:10 PM

The old Technodrome is more visually pleasing but the Nick one seems more threatening. I hope we get to see more of it.

Andrew NDB 08-15-2013 04:16 PM

Probably not out of the realm of possibility that if the situation dictates for it to need to be able to do so, the Nick Technodrome opens up on the bottom and tank treads deploy into place.

I don't see why there'd ever be a need for that, though. And it's not like it would even fit on any NYC street without steamrolling through buildings on either side as it rolls.

CyberCubed 08-15-2013 04:20 PM

If they called it, "The Kraang mothership" nobody would have even thought twice of it being a new design for the Technodrome. It really looks nothing like it.

The 4kids one from Turtles Forever at least resembled what an updated Technodrome should be like.

Andrew NDB 08-15-2013 04:24 PM

It's big, it's white, it's round, it's got techy panels on it, it's got doodads over its surface, it's a superweapon, and it's got a big eye in it.

Sounds like the Technodrome to me.

Donatello19 08-15-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1142021)
If they called it, "The Kraang mothership" nobody would have even thought twice of it being a new design for the Technodrome. It really looks nothing like it.

And it doesn't have to...this isn't a remake of the OT.

Refractive Reflections 08-15-2013 06:14 PM

We have to remember that we just saw the Nick version of the Technodrome in just two episodes. For all we know, the Nick Technodrome can just sit there all the time in the bottom of the ocean like the OT Technodrome in season 6-7.

Besides, the OT Technodrome did actually destroy parts of NYC in the season 3 finale in bulldozing some skyscrapers, and what did the the Nick Technodrome do yet in terms of destruction? Only used pods to kidnap humans and other life forms.

I'm just gonna wait and see how menacing this Nick Technodrome really is. I don't interpret darkened visual imagery as more "threatening" when it hasn't destroyed or took over any part of NYC quite yet.

CyberCubed 08-15-2013 06:51 PM

I think people are neglecting to mention that the Nick's Technodrome is actually an alien spaceship in that it can actually fly.

The OT Technodrome was a grounded vehicle that was a battlestation but could not hover like a ship or fly into space on its own. Some episodes showed it pulled by tractor beams through dimensional portals but that doesn't count as it can't fly on its own.

Coola Yagami 08-15-2013 07:36 PM

Lets see if they even bring it back. I hope the kraang's new motivation is to try to repower the technodrome all season.... That would be truly lame and would really make the Kraang into lame villains.

The Big Bad 08-15-2013 07:51 PM

What's wrong with the Technodrome? More or less the same problem with Kraang Prime: no real character to speak of. It's a big destructo-sphere in a story that didn't need one, went down like a punk, and doesn't have nearly the distinctiveness the original did. Which isn't to say that it needs to look like the original, just that the original had a certain something that prevented it from being just another Death Star, which this version doesn't possess.

And yes, there's the history--or if you'd like, the nostalgia factor--the original Technodrome will always be the place where I kicked copious ninja butt in Turtles in Time, and the setting for a lot of memorable scenes in the original cartoon. While it's obviously unfair to expect the new cartoon to be able to replicate that--and I'm not--I don't think its unreasonable for me to expect Nick--who in theory understand the importance of the 'drome to fans--to do better than just go "hey, people who were kids back then and are now adults like the Technodrome, right?"

Andrew NDB 08-16-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad (Post 1142165)
What's wrong with the Technodrome? More or less the same problem with Kraang Prime: no real character to speak of. It's a big destructo-sphere in a story that didn't need one, went down like a punk,

For it to even go "down like a punk," you're ignoring the fact that it actually rose to the occasion... something the Fred Wolf Technodrome never quite did.

Andrew NDB 08-16-2013 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1142119)
I think people are neglecting to mention that the Nick's Technodrome is actually an alien spaceship in that it can actually fly.

If you want to throw Archie into the equation, the Fred Wolf Technodrome can fly and become a spacecraft... when it's converted into the Skullbuzzer, or whatever it was called.

pingclang 08-16-2013 08:12 AM

I thought the thing was awesome. This isn't 1987 so we won't get the exact same Technodrome, I think it fits perfect with the look of this series.

OrokuYoshiFilms 08-16-2013 06:15 PM

New Technodrome? Cool.

Wish there was a ground based form with treads and all to accompany it's floating ominous intimidating mode, though.

BabyTurtles 08-16-2013 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrokuYoshiFilms (Post 1142678)
New Technodrome? Cool.

Wish there was a ground based form with treads and all to accompany it's floating ominous intimidating mode, though.

if it was on the ground it would flatten cars and houses!! XD

TigerClaw 08-16-2013 06:39 PM

I like the new Technodrome cause of its otherworldly design. It was made to look like something from another world and has a very alien looking design. Though I would've liked it more if it had an HR Giger design, But that's just me. lol :)

Irishmile 08-16-2013 07:23 PM

I think the big difference is that NOTHING really looked like the Technodrome when we first saw it in the FW toon... it was this giant ball on tank treads with lazers spiking out everywhere topped with a huge eyeball... it was weird, didn't make a lick of sense but nobody cared... we all still wanted that toy.

The NEW Technodrome looks like a generic throwaway Space orb/ship... its not horrible but it just doesn't have that same WTF/CHARM. I do not think kids will connect with it like my generation did when we were kids. But who knows... maybe they will.. I'm old and no longer think like a kid... I think like a manchild :lol:

madyankees 08-16-2013 08:15 PM

I don't hate the new one but I just like the old one better

Leo656 08-17-2013 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1142358)
If you want to throw Archie into the equation, the Fred Wolf Technodrome can fly and become a spacecraft... when it's converted into the Skullbuzzer, or whatever it was called.

...WHICH WAS AWESOME!!! :lol: Kinda.

Zulithe 08-17-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by madyankees (Post 1142726)
I don't hate the new one but I just like the old one better

Original had an odd, but very iconic, design that I think resonates with a lot of OT fans. The new one doesn't seem to have a striking or unique exterior, but I still like it just fine.

I just wish some of the harsher critics of the 2012 Drome would try, just try, to remove the nostalgia goggles and see it the way a fresh fan would. It's a pretty cool ship for what it is... and again, we still don't know everything about it. It could have lots of features that set it apart.


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