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AlZarkovski 08-26-2013 02:35 PM

TMNT #25 Preview/Discussion
 
Preview here!:)

Tazi 08-26-2013 02:54 PM

Ah, so two weeks passes between #24 and #25, Karai micro's placing in timeline makes more sense now. :)

corvus 08-26-2013 04:37 PM

Quite a bit happens in the first few pages. I'm excited already.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 08-26-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazi (Post 1147980)
Ah, so two weeks passes between #24 and #25, Karai micro's placing in timeline makes more sense now. :)

I was thinking Karai's micro took place at the same time as the Alopex micro since Alopex isn't in the Karai micro, and vice-versa, but I suppose that could be by design...

Very interesting that Leonardo will be Rocksteady and Bebop's ally when they first make their debut as mutants. I'm so psyched for this, can't wait to see who the two mutants at StockGen are going to turn out to be. I would like Rahzar to be one of them, actually, since Slash in this universe is more like Tokka.

Technogeek29 08-26-2013 08:07 PM

Well that was a very action packed way to open an issue. I notice something about Dark Leo.
Spoiler:
He didn't kill a single Savate just leaving them mortally wounded


Next cover has my two favorite Turtles on it.:)

CyberCubed 08-26-2013 08:40 PM

April and Casey....oh boy.

boywonder26 08-26-2013 08:43 PM

I can not wait till Wednesday.this issue looks amazing

CyberCubed 08-26-2013 09:22 PM

I bet the next panel after the April/Casey scene is Angel walking in on them. :lol:

oldmanwinters 08-26-2013 09:39 PM


Ninjinister 08-26-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1148210)
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(Ninjinister likes this)

corvus 08-26-2013 10:24 PM

Or Caseys dad walks in...

CyberCubed 08-26-2013 10:54 PM

It would be funny if April leaves the room and like 1 hour later Angel comes in and does the same exact thing.

And Casey is like.....Whoa. :lol:

Weapons@theready 08-26-2013 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1148252)
It would be funny if April leaves the room and like 1 hour later Angel comes in and does the same exact thing.

And Casey is like.....Whoa. :lol:

and then an hour after that April runs into Angel and tells her thanks for being there for her during this hard time and then they kiss:lol:

corvus 08-26-2013 11:32 PM

Stahp it!!!

CyberCubed 08-26-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapons@theready (Post 1148265)
and then an hour after that April runs into Angel and tells her thanks for being there for her during this hard time and then they kiss:lol:

And then Casey enjoys watching Angel/April kiss and then he decides to keep both of them rather than choosing one or the other.

Dammit, this sounds like shipping fuel! Good thing there are no fangirls on this forum, just look at what deviantart has about the Nick Don/April pairing. :lol:

Plasticplayhouse 08-27-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weapons@theready (Post 1148265)
and then an hour after that April runs into Angel and tells her thanks for being there for her during this hard time and then they kiss:lol:

then splinter walks in and says, "you b!#@h's are suppose to be looking for my son!, not examining each others tonsils!"


seriously though, this is getting good...soooo goood. dark leo feels so much better when mateus draws him. something about his style adds more personality to the character than when smith or eastman's renderings of him.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 08-27-2013 08:01 AM

I agree, but for some reason I want to see Ross Campbell take a crack at Dark Leo, maybe in a flashback or something.

corvus 08-28-2013 08:33 AM

Lots of stuff going on this issue. Some characters I never thought we'd see again and the last page is indescribable.

Rooish 08-28-2013 11:36 AM

Wow! That was awesome!

Spoiler:
People who are disappointed with the lack of violence/gore, how bout that splash of blood in front of Karai on page 2? How about that knife to the throat on page 10?

Don and Mike are almost doing something now in City Fall... I was starting to expect another City at War, where they're entirely brushed aside. I love the cover for the upcoming #26!

How about that intro of Hun? Page 15 blew my @(!#*@##!ing mind!

Very very tight writing! Amazing!


corvus 08-28-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooish (Post 1148881)
Wow! That was awesome!

Spoiler:
People who are disappointed with the lack of violence/gore, how bout that splash of blood in front of Karai on page 2? How about that knife to the throat on page 10?

Don and Mike are almost doing something now in City Fall... I was starting to expect another City at War, where they're entirely brushed aside. I love the cover for the upcoming #26!

How about that intro of Hun? Page 15 blew my @(!#*@##!ing mind!

Very very tight writing! Amazing!


Spoiler:
that was Caseys dad. Not Hun. He probably has a purple dragon tat from his days with them but I swear if he dyes his hair blond and becomes Hun....

Tazi 08-28-2013 11:43 AM

Just witout spoilers, from now:
Holy ****! Lots of things hinted and anticipated, are coming together in this issue! This was at least as good as City Fall pt1, and I can't wait until next monts.

Also, there's a really shocking panel if you're familiar with 4kids cartoon's plot... ;)

Blossombrooks 08-28-2013 11:49 AM

Ahh this issue has tied up a few of the ends people have been talking about, I feel like the arc is really moving now.
I have to wonder tho...

Spoiler:
Just what is Old Hob going to ask of Splinter?

I liked the flashback of Leo's, it confirms that he isn't all gone and Kitsune knows it too. Why is she intent on him not using lethal force? Will that be the thing that snaps Leo out of it because of it being against his core beliefs? That would be a tough way to come back for him, look how he was over Slash.

Tazi 08-28-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1148885)
Spoiler:
that was Caseys dad. Not Hun. He probably has a purple dragon tat from his days with them but I swear if he dyes his hair blond and becomes Hun....

But...
Spoiler:
They're the same. Just compare his face with Santolouco's Hun design from #27's cover.
Also, that's not a tat, that's the exact same tattoo that Hun has on his back.
http://www.tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/blo...r-674x1024.jpg

Angel's and Casey's past together, and their faters past was never explained with much detail, but it's very likely, that they ran the Purple Dragon together, years ago.

The best in all this, that it was all planned and hinted from issue #1, as it seems.



Spoiler:
Quote:

Why is she intent on him not using lethal force? Will that be the thing that snaps Leo out of it because of it being against his core beliefs? That would be a tough way to come back for him, look how he was over Slash.
I think that's very likely. I could also imagine that meeting with Slash could break the whole braincontrol thing.
Also, a scene with Leo handing back the black mask to Slash would be an epic ending scene. :)


MikeandRaph87 08-28-2013 01:23 PM

Spoilers below....



The last page shows Karai's plan B furthuring the plotpoint from her micro come to furition. I expected them to appear but it was cool seeing the transformation in progression with Rocksteady. We see the mutagen injections on thier wrist but where are the animals? I hope its explained.

Casey's dad? It looks like he is setting up to be killed. I just have the feeling he is not going to be around much longer.

Old Hob wants a favor of Splinter? What could that be? Any ideas?

We finally see the Savate get serious. They are bad and don't like Shredder taking over. I doubt Victor will see his end because we still need to learn why the Savate is a criminal group of ninjas rival to the Foot Clan. Doubt we will get it all before the end of the arc. The Svate will learn the hard way though that Shredder is the one in control.

Anyone else get the idea the corrupt cop Raphael was introgating to be a nod to Frank Miller?

corvus 08-28-2013 01:41 PM

Spoiler:
gangs get similar tattoos. I'm willing to bet angels dad has the same one. Santoloucos design for Hun doesnc't have black hair, stubble or a beer gut. I think it'd be really stupid for Hun to be Caseys dad but not someone from his past though, that'd make a lot of sense. Notice the purple dragon graffiti on Hobs place?

Rooish 08-28-2013 01:54 PM

Spoiler:
Good point, the nose is different. I got so psyched that Hun might be Casey's dad.

Tazi 08-28-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1148926)
Spoiler:
gangs get similar tattoos. I'm willing to bet angels dad has the same one. Santoloucos design for Hun doesnc't have black hair, stubble or a beer gut. I think it'd be really stupid for Hun to be Caseys dad but not someone from his past though, that'd make a lot of sense. Notice the purple dragon graffiti on Hobs place?

Spoiler:
I still think it's Hun.
In most arts he stands back to the view, so you can't see his beer gut, except here: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4VisTrmPds...1600/IDW03.JPG
He also has the built as Casey's dad.

Also, compare this with Casey's dad from Casey Micro, they're way too similar.

His original black hair is not a big deal, I think, not just because "hydrogen blonde" is not a natural hair color, but because most Purple Dragons had painted hair colors anyway, it wouldn't be a new thing at all.

It's just two weeks until Hun micro, we will see soon, if I were wrong, or not. ;)

corvus 08-28-2013 02:52 PM

I saw that. He doesn't have the pronounced widows peek either and I don't see a beer gut in that picture. I really hope you're wrong cause that would just ruin Hun.

MikeandRaph87 08-28-2013 03:57 PM

I thought Casey's dad was going to get killed by Hun not actually BE Hun himself. So in a way I would be correct in that Casey's dad kills his old self for the Hun moniker.

I recall that it was said Hun would debut in TMNT#25 and so would Bebop and Rocksteady. Well,the mutant duo was obivious but Hun was vague if instead odf Angel's dad Hun is Casey's dad.

corvus 08-28-2013 04:11 PM

I thought Huns first appearance was is said to be in his micro

MikeandRaph87 08-28-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1149023)
I thought Huns first appearance was is said to be in his micro

Scroll down to July 18th in the link revealing Hun is to debut in #25. It was apart of the SDCC panel.

http://www.tmntlair.com/

corvus 08-28-2013 04:45 PM

God I really hope that Hun isn't Caseys dad. I'm thinking Tom should weigh in on this and explain what his intentions are on that page.

Desslok 08-28-2013 04:55 PM

What, and ruin the suspense?! :trazz:

I just read through and WOW I love where all of this is going. It's going to be greatness when all of these elements collide.

Master Splinter 08-28-2013 05:21 PM

I really enjoyed this issue. I feel like the story has progressed nicely. It was nice to see some more savate action but I'd still like to know more of their motivation in all of this. I was actually hoping for a savate micro. Anyways, the final page was great and who knows about Casey's dad, whatever happens it has got me interested.

-ms

MikeandRaph87 08-28-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Splinter (Post 1149053)
I really enjoyed this issue. I feel like the story has progressed nicely. It was nice to see some more savate action but I'd still like to know more of their motivation in all of this. I was actually hoping for a savate micro. Anyways, the final page was great and who knows about Casey's dad, whatever happens it has got me interested.

-ms


I was thinknig about this after I read the issue,Kevin mentioned he wanted to do a second Annual. Have the contents being teased? What if it was a follow up of the previous and focus again on the Savate. The first one set up the group and established them and Victor in particular. The follow up could give the reader insight to their motivation, roots, and connection to the Foot. Just a reasonable guess and something I would like to see happen!

I have seen both Tom and Bobby lurking yet they have yet to comment. I think we will have to wait for two weeks unless the teaser twelve days away give or take tells us something in reference to Hun's identity. Its just like Fugitoid hiding in plain sight. Speaking of Fugi, we have been away from him for some time. Krang could have ripped his robotic head off and downloaded the portal information by now!:teek:

TomWaltz 08-28-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvus (Post 1149040)
God I really hope that Hun isn't Caseys dad. I'm thinking Tom should weigh in on this and explain what his intentions are on that page.

My intentions? To get you good folks guessing, of course!

CyberCubed 08-28-2013 06:19 PM

Looking at Hun's design on the micro cover, he looks nothing like Casey's father. Aside from the blonde hair, the entire body type is different too.

I don't see how Casey's dad who is a drunkard slob can become incredibly buff like Hun.

Ninjinister 08-28-2013 06:57 PM

At this rate Lindsey is gonna end up being the reincarnated Tang Shen.

DrSpengler 08-28-2013 07:03 PM

Here's my review of TMNT #25 at TMNT Entity.

While last issue was all action and spectacle, this installment was heavy on the story. A lot of plot threads and character arcs moved forward and it was quite a bit to take in.

It's good to see the gang war finally receive an official declaration. That thread's been simmering since TMNT #6, which was, like, 2 years ago, right? Man, when you guys at IDW said you had a "grand scheme" plotted out, you weren't kidding.

The Savate were oafish buffoons in their last appearance in the 2012 Annual, but I presume that the new management has whipped them into shape since then. Admittedly, their comical antics in the Annual didn't do much to build them up as a worthy rival to the Foot Clan for the impending gang war, but they seem to be serious business, now. Victor killing a guy for speaking out of turn was kind of a cheap measure to show he's "for real", but if it got the point across that the Savate are no longer comic relief, then I guess it did it's job.

So much going on that there's almost too much to talk about in one sitting, but I found the revelation that Shredder ordered Dark Leo not to kill rather curious. The narrative excuse makes enough sense (that doing something so drastically against his own nature this soon in the conversion might undo the brainwashing), it feels just a tad convenient. Kinda like when he "killed" Slash without actually killing him. Now he's joined up with a clan of assassins, but he's under orders not to kill anybody because reasons. Hopefully that'll be challenged later on.

Knowing in advance that the next Villain Micro in the pipeline was Hun has had me curious. No foreshadowing for his character at all (seemingly), so I was wondering if he was just gonna pop right out of the blue. Casey's dad having a "purple dragon" tattoo, though, is a curious segue. Ought to be good.

And then there's that splash page at the end. Bad. Ass.

MrTMNT2012 08-28-2013 07:07 PM

Got to be honest. This is my least favourite issue so far!

Didn't like that we didn't advance the plot at all and there was barely any action in it. Raphael's acknowledgement of why he was so angry was incredibly rushed, it was literally the next panel after Mike talks to him. The rivalry between Dark Leo and Karai is pointless, Kitsune was wasted in this issue and Victor parts were pretty dull surprisingly. April and Casey's kiss was once again rushed and the whole issue seemed a little lost in what direction it was going in.

I did like the last panel though... But then again, who couldn't? :)

Been Loving City Fall but this issue did NOT live up to the greatness of past chapters.

(5.0/10) for 'City Fall: Part 4' :( Hopefully next month's will be better...


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