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CyberCubed 09-11-2013 01:12 AM

Thoughts on American Pie movies
 
I've only ever seen the first one, as it was a pretty fun and entertaining teen comedy movie and a decent coming of age story.

Are any of the following films worth seeing or should I just stop here? Since Jason Biggs is currently voicing Leonardo in the cartoon, I thought it was only fitting to revisit the movie that made him famous.

Candy Kappa 09-11-2013 01:13 AM

The main movies are fun, although I've not seen the last reunion movie.

The spin-offs, terrible.

shuriken 09-11-2013 02:48 AM

American Pie 1 and 2 are great. American Wedding is decent and overall fairly entertaining. Haven't seen band camp or any other spinoff but general consensus is that they're terrible.
2 and Wedding are worth looking up if anything to to see what happens after they graduate.

BubblyShell22 09-11-2013 08:39 AM

Never had an appeal for them and never will. Just not my cup of tea.

CyberCubed 09-11-2013 03:48 PM

It's great that American Pie did for a whole new generation what Fast times at Ridgemont High did for the 80's.

dkram230 09-11-2013 04:02 PM

I was a senior in high school when the first one came out and I loved it! But they seemed to go downhill from there which each one being worse than the last. My oldest niece, 11 years younger than me, was in high school when the spin offs were released and absolutely loved them. To me, they seemed like R rated versions of made for TV Disney movies and just seemed stupid (weren't most straight to DVD anyway?). Although I was probably no longer the target age demographic LOL. American Reunion was virtually unwatchable to me last year. That all being said, I still can sit down and enjoy the first for as classic a story as it is. And to CyberCubed's last comment, I still love Fast Times at Ridgemount High anytime! It was a great movie when I first saw it in the 90's and it's still a great movie today. In fact, just watched it again this past 4/20!

AT-Man 09-11-2013 04:36 PM

Book of Love was the only one I hated. The main movies are all pretty good and the rest are watchable, except BOL.

Leo656 09-11-2013 10:08 PM

Possibly the single most overrated comedy film(s) of all time, honestly. I know a lot of people compare it to 80s movies with similar themes, but the difference is that the 80s versions were clever. American Pie was 90% gross-out humor and 10% Shannon Elizabeth's tits. The sequels just felt like xeroxing. I never saw any of the DVD spin-offs. I don't *hate* the original, it's worth watching every once in a while, but it's the most overrated comedy I've ever seen. It's just not *that* funny, aside from the "Holy Sh*t I can't believe they got away with that" factor.

Funny story, I got dragged to see the original with a bunch of friends when it came out. Near the end when Alyson Hannigan tells Jason Biggs where she stuck her flute, some guy in one of the front rows JUMPED out of his seat, started jumping up and down pumping his fists in the air screaming "YEAH! YEAH! F*CK YEAH!!!" and then ran up the aisle and out of the theater, never to return. Everyone kind of laughed awkwardly for a second and got quiet, kinda like "Um, yeah, so that just happened," and then my friend said really loud "I guess he had to go rub one out?" Whole place died. :lol: It was worth sitting through the movie for that. And for Shannon Elizabeth; she never looked that good again.

BubblyShell22 09-12-2013 06:35 AM

Oh, man, that's hilarious, Leo.

dkram230 09-12-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1155315)
I don't *hate* the original, it's worth watching every once in a while, but it's the most overrated comedy I've ever seen.

I agree that the franchise as a whole is overrated, that's for sure. But looking at individual comedies, I would say something like Napoleon Dynamite or Anchor Man is much more overrated. American Pie at least had a plot and a cast of characters whom most people can relate to at that point in their lives.

O- and loved your story BTW :lol:

AT-Man 09-12-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dkram230 (Post 1155454)
But looking at individual comedies, I would say something like Napoleon Dynamite or Anchor Man is much more overrated.

You're nuts. NUTS, I tell you!

TheCanadiandrome 09-12-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1155041)
Never had an appeal for them and never will. Just not my cup of tea.

agree with u there

CyberCubed 09-12-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1155315)
And for Shannon Elizabeth; she never looked that good again.

Her body was unreal in the movie. Entirely skinny frame and huge boobs. I didn't see the movie back in 1999....as I was only like...14 or something at the time....but I know if I did that scene would have been burnt into my mind forever.

I can only imagine what it must have been like for all the 13-15 year olds who saw American Pie in theaters back in 1999.

MrTMNT2012 09-12-2013 05:38 PM

HATE them. Really dumb movies that only appeal to the lowest teenagers with bad taste in actual stories and characters!

At the end of the first one, they do this whole speech about how great it is to keep their virginity until the right time and make it special for their love to give out the message to teenagers that sex is not the most important thing in the world. Great for you movie, I actually have some respect now that you decided to be smart about this and give a good moral - what happens next? They ALL get laid that very night!

Bullsh!t.

CyberCubed 09-12-2013 06:59 PM

They were all 18 and seniors in High School, I don't see the problem.

MrTMNT2012 09-12-2013 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1155667)
They were all 18 and seniors in High School, I don't see the problem.

That's cool. I can't convince you otherwise, that was just my opinion. I thought the movie would be smarter and have a good moral but sad to say otherwise...

Prowler 09-12-2013 08:08 PM

They're the kind of comedy movies that get less funny the older you get.

BODYCOUNT 09-12-2013 08:34 PM

it was a good flick . it did show a tame side of high school at the time. i was also class of '99 like the dudes in the movie and there were 5 of us in my main group of friends as well. But i went to a high school in california with gangs, drugs, violence, just more hood life. but it did capture a feeling / vibe that was present where i was at.

Loved fast times at ridgemont high. that movie to me was spot on! more so than american pie.

CyberCubed 09-12-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012 (Post 1155670)
. I thought the movie would be smarter and have a good moral but sad to say otherwise...

It was a decent moral. The kids waited to have sex until they found someone. The only questionable one was that one kid who had sex with the mother of his friend.

That Matt Guy 09-12-2013 10:42 PM

Eugene Levy is the only good thing in those movies.

CyberCubed 09-15-2013 12:19 AM

Just watched American Reunion for the first time, I think the last one was the best movie. Taking place 13 years after the first movie really made this one nostalgic and special. The characters were all older and the sentimental moments were great.

I also think the humor and actors were at the top of their game in this one. If you saw the first one and only see one of the others I suggest watching American Reunion. It was pretty funny and surprisingly emotional at times.

Leo656 09-15-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1155719)
The only questionable one was that one kid who had sex with the mother of his friend.

That was my personal favorite part because it most closely resembled my own high school experiences. :lol: For most of HS I was having an affair with one of my neighbors after she seduced me when I was 14 (full disclosure: she didn't have to try very hard). She wasn't anybody's mom or even married, and was only in her mid/late 30s, but close enough. Yes, it was entirely illegal, but f*ck that, consent was given all around.

The funniest part of it all was that we "hooked up" after my father had tried and failed to get with her for several months. She and I always laughed about that; he never stopped trying to persuade her, though. Either he had no idea what we were doing, or he knew but didn't care. We did our best to cover it up, because you never know who's watching, but we didn't really try too hard, either; like the time she came over to "offer to drive me to school" but actually ended up making me late because she wanted sex in the shower :lol:. Either way, for a few years that was a helluva ride (pun fully intended).

It got weird once I started seriously dating chicks my own age, though. She started getting possessive, as if we were ever going to have a "real" relationship in spite of a 20-year age gap and the fact our common bond was an entirely illicit affair, but chicks are weird. But that's how it ended, when I started dating someone legitimately. Whenever we were both single we would hook up again for a bit but nothing like in HS when it was almost every day.

But yeah, so that part with Stifler's mom always made me crack up. That was the closest the entire movie came to my own high school experience. :lol: Sometimes I wanna look her up, but then I think better of it. I haven't seen her in about 5 years and we haven't had sex in about 7, so that'd be pretty awkward, I think...

CyberCubed 09-15-2013 06:34 PM

So you basically saying even though you gave consent it was rape since you were only 14 at the time? Daaaamn. If your father ever found out she would have wound up 10 years in jail.

At least in the movie the kid was an 18 year old senior in High School.

The Stryker 09-15-2013 06:35 PM

Never thought I'd see a detailed story of sexual abuse and statutory rape on The Drome.

AT-Man 09-15-2013 07:10 PM

You cannot imagine how f**king jealous I am!!!!!!!

Leo656 09-15-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1157135)
So you basically saying even though you gave consent it was rape since you were only 14 at the time? Daaaamn. If your father ever found out she would have wound up 10 years in jail.

At least in the movie the kid was an 18 year old senior in High School.

Actually if my Dad found out he would have mostly been mad because it as someone he couldn't catch, not for any reason relating to how old I was. It happens. He actually had no idea I'd lost my virginity, and being something of a ladies man he'd tease me as I got older, since I never brought girls home to screw around he'd joke about having to "lend" me one of his girlfriends for a night so I could "start catching up to him". :lol:

Few guys would honestly complain if they were in the situation I was in. It's a double-standard, for sure, but all I cared about was not having the anxiety all my friends did about getting laid. It was never a big deal to me as it was to them, because I didn't have to worry about chasing anyone. My entire teenage years were better for it having happened, and I don't regret it.

Think about it: as teenagers most guys have a teacher they'd love to stay after class with, for example, we all fantasize about it, and when presented with the situation most guys say would and do say yes, it's in the news almost every day. What guy with a functional libido turns down sex when it's offered from an older female and the female is attractive? Up to this point any guy I've talked about it with wishes they'd been so "lucky", so I don't know, man. A couple of my friends know who it is, but as far as I know they never got together with her, but they would have.

It also wasn't the only chick who could have gotten in huge trouble for trying to be with me; once my Dad's girlfriend got drunk when he was at work and was implying she wanted me and my best friend to tag-team her when we were about 17. *That* one, I turned down; I totally didn't need the hassle. And another friend's mom used to aggressively flirt with me and most of his guy friends starting when we were about 14, which he understandably hated. I purposely stopped hanging out at his house because it made him so uncomfortable to see his mom flirt with guys so much illegally younger than her. Can't blame him, so he and I just hung out elsewhere. His mom had a drinking problem that may have played into it. It kinda does remind me of Stifler's mom, now that I think of it, but I'm pretty sure she never nailed any of our friends.

So I don't know, life happens, I guess? I certainly didn't feel "abused", I think some chicks are just a little nuts after they've been alone for a while. Who am I to deny someone in their obviously needing circumstances? I'm not saying it's "right" exactly, it's obviously not legal, but it happens a lot in society and when it's consensual I think people should lighten up a bit. At the same time I was having my fling, one of my best female friends was having an affair with a married man with kids who was 20+ years her senior. We were both about 17 and I think that's altogether *much* worse than my story, but in the end she was the one who went after him, so who am I to judge, exactly?

I mean I get why it's weird to some people but real life gets pretty weird sometimes.

Peanut 09-15-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AT-Man
You cannot imagine how f**king jealous I am!!!!!!!

Praying that this is one of those times where I'm not misreading an attempt at sarcasm on the Internet. PRAYING!

shuriken 09-15-2013 10:44 PM

You know when you're talking with friends and one of them goes into way too much detail about their sexual exploits for no apparent reason and everyone just feels a little awkward afterwards?
well now you do.

Cure 09-15-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1157252)
You know when you're talking with friends and one of them goes into way too much detail about their sexual exploits for no apparent reason and everyone just feels a little awkward afterwards?
well now you do.

Yeah, seriously. Tact is a thing of the past, I guess.

jbeeman85 09-19-2013 12:43 PM

For me, the American Pie movies really haven't aged well. Maybe it's because I am no longer in high school when I found more of that kind of humor funny. Watching them now, I almost feel embarassed for the actors involved for what some of them did just to be in a movie (such as acting like you're making it with a pie).

Slade 09-19-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dkram230 (Post 1155454)
I agree that the franchise as a whole is overrated, that's for sure. But looking at individual comedies, I would say something like Napoleon Dynamite or Anchor Man is much more overrated. American Pie at least had a plot and a cast of characters whom most people can relate to at that point in their lives.

O- and loved your story BTW :lol:

I'm in aggreeance with you guys, except, I'd ad the Hangover movies in there with most overrated.

Plasticplayhouse 09-20-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1155181)
It's great that American Pie did for a whole new generation what Fast times at Ridgemont High did for the 80's.

yes and no.

yes they are teen/young adult films based on the comedic parts of growing pains durring those high school years, but i agree with leo656 that the 80's films were much more clever.


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