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Raph's Girl 10-22-2013 12:22 AM

Beetlejuice 2
 
It's coming...with Michael Keaton back in the role. Tim Burton is close to signing on as director..

http://www.thewrap.com/tim-burton-ta...2-warner-bros/

Leo656 10-22-2013 12:37 AM

Ack. Hopefully it WON'T be at all connected with the "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" script that's been floating around since 5 minutes after the first movie came out. Not only was that stupid, it essentially copied the first one entirely, just in Hawaii. Sad Fact: Originally, the entire point of a Beetlejuice sequel was 100% to have an extended Wynona Ryder Bikini Scene, and that's all. And while I'd definitely have welcomed that then, and may be up for it now, it's about 20 years past the selling point.

I do hope she's in the sequel, though. If they come up with something entirely different from the one they've wanted to do for 20 years, it could be OK. I do love that movie, but there's really no strong reason to revisit it, it stands on its own. I kind of feel like a sequel would immediately become a parody of itself, like "Wayne's World 2." Yeah, it has its moments, but it really doesn't hold up at all to the first. Beetlejuice is so great, I can't see a sequel coming even close. Guess we'll see.

TheCanadiandrome 10-22-2013 12:55 AM

Would be interesting to see a sequel. It's not like he "died" in the first movie, though it's implied but he's shown more or less fine at the end

rip32zity 10-22-2013 02:07 AM

I think it would actually be great just as long as tim burton is in it. Would be great for kids in this era to see something similar to what we saw but with a different twist and more cgi. But great idea in my mind

Sage Ninja 10-22-2013 05:57 AM

so it is a sequel, not a reboot?

chrisdude 10-22-2013 08:40 AM

It could be cool. I do hope it's a new story, though, and not just Beetlejuice with a new family or whatever. I'm curious to see if they get Alec Baldwin, Geena Davis and Winona Ryder back.

Andrew NDB 10-22-2013 11:03 AM

I could see them going the "Drop Dead Fred" route... Wynona Ryder's character as an adult, still being bugged by Beetlejuice at inopportune times. I doubt they'll ground the movie at the same house and I kind of doubt we'd see the Baldwin/Davis ghosts again.

rip32zity 10-22-2013 01:19 PM

I wonder if the movie would start off with him having that shrunken head? Just the same way it left off. And i hope they dont bring back alec or davis.

Andrew NDB 10-22-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rip32zity (Post 1170425)
I wonder if the movie would start off with him having that shrunken head?

I doubt that would even be addressed.

CyberCubed 10-22-2013 01:40 PM

Why on earth do they keep making sequels of movies from 20 years ago? When has this ever worked?

Andrew NDB 10-22-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1170431)
Why on earth do they keep making sequels of movies from 20 years ago? When has this ever worked?

It worked in "The Color of Money." It worked in Rambo 4. It worked in Rocky Balboa. It arguably worked in Tron Legacy.

Leo656 10-22-2013 09:43 PM

Part of me feels like it should be entirely its own thing and not address anything from the first movie too closely, if at all. For one, a long enough time has passed that your mind could just make up whatever's happened to get from then to now. Secondly, Beetlejuice is less about story (although the story is great) and more about being simultaneously hilarious and creepy/bizarre as f*ck. You could do that a million ways with a million characters.

On the other hand, I really love to see Wynona Ryder in anything and I think she needs the money. I would not be sad if she was in it.

Raven 10-22-2013 10:47 PM

The title is misleading, Michael Keaton has not officially signed on. Its just as much a rumor as Burton directing at this point.

Even in the article you link to it says that he is in talks to reprise the role, theres no signed papers yet.

Wildcat 10-22-2013 10:50 PM

Cool i haven't seen the first in years but I used the watch the cartoon all the time.

AT-Man 10-23-2013 06:06 AM

I want Otho back!

edit: whoops, I just went to wiki and saw the actor died a few years back. Nevermind then.

Andrew NDB 04-08-2019 01:30 PM

Confirmed to be dead again:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/dont-exp...equel-anymore/

oldmanwinters 04-08-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1802694)

When has being dead ever stopped Beetlejuice? :tlol:

Andrew NDB 04-08-2019 01:50 PM

True. :)

It's sad to me, as this is the only Burton movie I'm really interested in seeing. Instead, next it will be "Tim Burton's Pinocchio" or something.

The Deadman 04-08-2019 06:56 PM

Shame. I was looking forward to this, actually.

drgon78 04-08-2019 09:22 PM

Well that is really disappointing to hear.

sdp 04-08-2019 09:37 PM

A shame, I really thought it'd be more likely now than ever but the first is great and doesn't need a sequel so I guess it's not the end of the world..

I'm up for it no matter how disappointing it would likely be, as long as we get some fun clips out of the movie I'd feel satisfied.

Autbot_Benz 02-28-2022 02:25 PM

DiscussingFilm
@DiscussingFilm
‘BEETLEJUICE 2’ is moving forward with Michael Keaton & Winona Ryder reprising their roles.

Brad Pitt will produce the film through his production company Plan B with hopes to begin filming this Summer.

(Source: https://theankler.com/p/the-war-to-p...e=urlEXCLUSIVE)

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/s...88503280951302

drgon78 02-28-2022 03:21 PM

Cool, but is Tim Burton still directing?

Andrew NDB 02-28-2022 04:03 PM

Ehh... that source article looks dodgy there. But Brad Pitt's production company helping a Beetlejuice 2 get off the ground is so off the wall that it just might be true.

NinjaPug 02-28-2022 09:09 PM

That report is legit. Trades are confirming it. Doesn't mean it'll actually happen though.

Leo656 02-28-2022 09:12 PM

This is because I made a joke about it last week.

I'm telling you, the universe f*cking hates me.

Wildcat 02-28-2022 10:38 PM

I never saw the whole first movie. Just parts in passing. I watched the cartoon a lot. Nice to see they’re making a sequel though.

Leo656 02-28-2022 10:40 PM

No it's not, it's dumb and there's zero f*cking point.

It's just a double-fisted cash-in on "20+ Years Too Late Sequels" and "People Remembered That Michael Keaton Is Still Alive" both being a trend at the moment. It's f*cking stupid.

Coola Yagami 02-28-2022 10:53 PM

They'll have to do heavy make up and de-aging CGI to explain how a damn ghost somehow got old.

Andrew NDB 02-28-2022 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1921633)
They'll have to do heavy make up and de-aging CGI to explain how a damn ghost somehow got old.

What are you talking about? They have to do neither of those things. Well, they'd already be doing heavy makeup because Beetlejuice calls for heavy makeup. Throw a wig on him and done. He'd look almost exactly the same.

Leo656 02-28-2022 11:25 PM

Is he still gonna be trying to get all rapey on Lydia? Or are they gonna lean into the cartoon vibe and have it be like she's into him too, just since it's less problematic that way?

Of all the movies that ever got a kids' spin-off, that's one of the weirdest. "Let's take the creepy rape ghost and the underage girl who's clearly not into it, and have them be Best Pals and go on adventures. For the kids!"

Great movie, pretty fun cartoon. But in retrospect: Holy Sh*t.

Andrew NDB 02-28-2022 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1921643)
Of all the movies that ever got a kids' spin-off, that's one of the weirdest. "Let's take the creepy rape ghost and the underage girl who's clearly not into it, and have them be Best Pals and go on adventures. For the kids!"

Great movie, pretty fun cartoon. But in retrospect: Holy Sh*t.

Yeah, that was really weird.

Leo656 02-28-2022 11:32 PM

I'd like a more "faithful" Adult Swim reboot of the cartoon that was kinda halfway in-between the movie and the original cartoon.

Like they're "pals" and go on adventures, and outwardly he's a "Nice Guy"... but secretly he's exactly the same scumbag he was in the movie, and he's constantly trying to stick it in her butt and she just never notices. That could be funny.

Wildcat 02-28-2022 11:35 PM

He’s a ghoul or whatever you wanna call him. No de-aging necessary.

It’s not too late to make a sequel either. It’s a dark comedy with monsters and the undead. As long he’s able and wants to do it what’s the problem?

Coola Yagami 02-28-2022 11:37 PM

Idk.... didn't he just want to marry her so he can break the Beetlejuice curse (or whatever that was) so he could always cause mischief in the real world without being summoned away by his own name? I never really saw him as being eager to 'consummate his vows' with her. He mostly likely would have kicked her to the curb once his curse was broken. Maybe cause Lydia was young at the time but I don't remember anything like him checking her out or making jokes about how he's gonna **** her hard on the honeymoon or anything like that. I mean, if anything, he was trying to peak under the dress of the wife character.

Leo656 02-28-2022 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1921648)
He’s a ghoul or whatever you wanna call him. No de-aging necessary.

It’s not too late to make a sequel either. It’s a dark comedy with monsters and the undead. As long he’s able and wants to do it what’s the problem?


The same reason it never got made for 30 years: They thought about it multiple times, realized that there was literally no story they could tell that wasn't completely f*cking stupid, and said "Yeah, let's not bother."

There's STILL no story they could tell that wouldn't be stupid. It's just "Oh, okay, Keaton clearly doesn't care anymore since he's old and just wants to pad his nest egg, so now we can probably talk him into it." That's the only reason this is happening. They just had to wait him out until he got too old to have any integrity, which happens to most people.

It's not just because it's been three decades, that's only part of it. They decided all the way back in 1991 that a sequel was a terrible idea. And they were correct.

As Carlin once said, "Not every ejaculation needs a name." You need to stop with this "Every idea anyone ever had deserves a budget and a release date" bullsh*t, man. I'm begging you.

Andrew NDB 02-28-2022 11:43 PM

Well, I'd really love to be excited about a Tim Burton movie again. This would be about the only new one that would do that.

And maybe it ends up sucking but maybe it ends up it doesn't.

Wildcat 03-01-2022 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1921650)
The same reason it never got made for 30 years: They thought about it multiple times, realized that there was literally no story they could tell that wasn't completely f*cking stupid, and said "Yeah, let's not bother."

There's STILL no story they could tell that wouldn't be stupid. It's just "Oh, okay, Keaton clearly doesn't care anymore since he's old and just wants to pad his nest egg, so now we can probably talk him into it." That's the only reason this is happening. They just had to wait him out until he got too old to have any integrity, which happens to most people.

It's not just because it's been three decades, that's only part of it. They decided all the way back in 1991 that a sequel was a terrible idea. And they were correct.

As Carlin once said, "Not every ejaculation needs a name." You need to stop with this "Every idea anyone ever had deserves a budget and a release date" bullsh*t, man. I'm begging you.

So Michael Keaton is only doing stuff for the money now? That’s funny. Like he needs Batman and Beetlejuice to save his career or something.

That’s such a silly argument every time someone makes it about an older movie star. I see it every so often too. There’s nothing wrong with him playing these characters again for the fun of it. There’s nothing wrong with anyone doing it.

No Story was said about GB3 too. I remember hearing that on TV. It was way back in the 90s when the rights stuff must have started.

Technically there’s no point for any sequel to exist. What about Chucky? If we’re being objective he probably should have been defeated in part 3 after getting ripped to pieces but Bride worked. Any remains are enough.

Leo656 03-01-2022 12:23 AM

I'm guessing you think Dennis Hopper did "Super Mario Bros." because he liked the script. Or that Raul Julia played M. Bison in Street Fighter because he thought it would be a great career move.

NO, god dammit, they were old and on the way out. Julia was literally dying and only did that movie because his kid liked the game and he knew it would be his last paycheck so he could leave behind a bit more money for the kid.

When people get old, they stop giving a sh*t. The residuals from movies made decades ago starts to dry up, and medical bills start to mount. Your "artistic integrity" starts to mean less than the possibility of them having to bury you in a pauper's grave. So you start saying "yes" to things that you spent your whole life saying "no" to, because you figure people will understand the circumstances.

But it doesn't make them GOOD movies, and the aging actors in question completely understand that.

Michael Keaton is 70 years old. Do I think he's suddenly playing Batman and Beetlejuice again because he realizes he's close to the finish line and may as well pad his pension since nobody can rightly judge him for it anymore? Yes. 100%. 10 or 20 years ago, he would absolutely not be involved in any of this stuff. It's come up, he always said no. That right there is proof.

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1921656)

Technically there’s no point for any sequel to exist.

That's correct. And 99% of them are awful. See? Way to prove my point.

Movies are made for Art and Money. Sequels are made for Just Money. Inherently, they're conceived in sin. That doesn't by default make them bad, BUT it means that they're already planting roots in poison soil from the inception. It's "More for the sake of More", not because they actually have anything new or relevant to say.

A sequel to a 30+ year old movie? DEFINITELY greed. Every time. The entire hook is, "BOY, you never thought you'd see THIS, huh?!" That's literally the entire point, the fact that everyone thought it was impossible because if there was any point it would've happened ages ago. That's not good. :lol: And a few of them turned out decent! But that's by accident.

I'm not sure you really "get" how Hollywood works, my son.

Then again - and I say this with all due respect, and I actually think you're an okay person - but you like a TON of terrible movies.

Wildcat 03-01-2022 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1921658)
I'm guessing you think Dennis Hopper did "Super Mario Bros." because he liked the script. Or that Raul Julia played M. Bison in Street Fighter because he thought it would be a great career move.

NO, god dammit, they were old and on the way out. Julia was literally dying and only did that move because his kid liked the game and he knew it would be his last paycheck so he could leave behind a bit more money for the kid.

When people get old, they stop giving a sh*t. The residuals from movies made decades ago starts to dry up, and medical bills start to mount. Your "artistic integrity" starts to mean less than the possibility of them having to bury you in a pauper's grave. So you start saying "yes" to things that you spent your whole life saying "no" to, because you figure people will understand the circumstances.

But it doesn't make them GOOD movies, and the aging actors in question completely understand that.

Michael Keaton is 70 years old. Do I think he's suddenly playing Batman and Beetlejuice again because he realizes he's close to the finish line and may as well pad his pension since nobody can rightly judge him for it anymore? Yes. 100%. 10 or 20 years ago, he would absolutely not be involved in any of this stuff. It's come up, he always said no. That right there is proof.



That's correct. And 99% of them are awful. See? Way to prove my point.

Movies are made for Art and Money. Sequels are made for Just Money. Inherently, they're conceived in sin. That doesn't by default make them bad, BUT it means that they're already planting roots in poison soil from the inception. It's "More for the sake of More", not because they actually have anything new or relevant to say.

A sequel to a 30+ year old movie? DEFINITELY greed. Every time. The entire hook is, "BOY, you never thought you'd see THIS, huh?!" That's literally the entire point, the fact that everyone thought it was impossible because if there was any point it would've happened ages ago. That's not good. :lol: And a few of them turned out decent! But that's by accident.

I'm not sure you really "get" how Hollywood works, my son.

Then again - and I say this with all due respect, and I actually think you're an okay person - but you like a TON of terrible movies.

No offense taken. That’s a really cynical view on all that though. I know sometimes actors do certain roles for certain reasons.

As for Michael Keaton I haven’t kept up with it so I don’t know how against it he was 10-20 years ago.

I just think he’s returning for the fun of it since he’s done what he wanted otherwise and he knows fans are into it...that does not equal nest egg/loss of integrity. Just revisiting them.

He still does other movies. You’re making it sound like he wants a career lift and suddenly changed his mind for attention. It’s 2 roles and Batman is obviously very popular.


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