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ToTheNines 10-24-2013 03:18 PM
Captain America: The Winter Solider
 


Trailer came out today. Looks pretty cool. Other than Age of Ultron, this is probably the Phase 2 movie I'm most interested in.

I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger, but he looked like something out of Power Rangers in Avengers.

Raph's Girl 10-24-2013 04:32 PM
Uh oh... looks like Bucky owes Nick Fury a new helicarrier. :P

Andrew NDB 10-24-2013 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1171308)
I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger
Though he actually gets back his First Avenger suit in this at one point (he jacks it from a museum, I believe I read). You even see him in it in the trailer.

I'm guessing he wears the costume you see when he's doing stuff for SHIELD, then when he realizes they're up to no good he turns his back on them and takes back his first costume. By the end we'll probably see a slightly new version of his Avengers suit.

Turo602 10-24-2013 04:40 PM
Trailer looks great. So far, it looks like the best of the phase 2 movies. Iron Man 3 was disappointing, and I'm not really too hyped for Thor 2.

Andrew NDB 10-24-2013 04:40 PM
Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.

ZariusTwo 10-25-2013 06:38 AM
Film looks like it might be a better story than the first Cap movie, which I thought was way too boyscoutish and cartoonish to be a beleivable period peice about a hero's life in the second world war.

Giving how divisive Iron Man 3 has proven to be, Phase II needs to bounce back with Thor: Dark World to reclaim some faith. So far in terms of other output like the dire Agents of SHIELD and corny cartoons, Marvel really have been losing the plot lately. Part of me is glad as I've never forgiven the company for Civil War and other hot sticky comic book related messes the last few years, but it's still sad to see them produce a lot of mediocrity lately.

chrisdude 10-25-2013 06:44 AM
I'm so excited about this movie. I find questionable SHIELD stuff compelling, and I can't wait to see what choices Cap has to make.

Leo656 10-25-2013 08:00 AM
I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever. :)

I get what you're saying, though. Sometimes the way they show things in movies almost has to be unrealistic or else there's no movie. Like "Iron Man II", in real life Stark would have been taken into custody and sent to a military prison for the rest of his life for refusing to turn over his Iron Man tech to the government. There's no way a jolly speech would convince the gov't that this guy or any guy could be trusted to walk around with technology that could conceivably bring about the End Of Days if mishandled. But eh, movies. :lol:

ZariusTwo 10-25-2013 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1171518)
I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever. :)
I admit I just didnt "get", or at the very least, didnt appreciate, what they were trying to do, normally that sort of stuff works for me in parody, but I like to think Cap can be the s*it in terms of a character. I wouldnt want him decking Hitler or anything, but something a bit more serious, like we seem to be getting now, would have sufficed.

It was also other areas like the toyetic aspects and it's purpose as a set-up for all the fantasy aspects of The Avengers that I had a problem with. A big ad for another movie is not a dramatic selling point for me

Leo656 10-25-2013 08:28 AM
I wasn't upset at all about Cap's movie setting up the Avengers, because that's exactly what it should have done: In the comics, Cap was only relevant during WWII, and then disappeared until they did The Avengers, so it was pretty accurate there. Cap as a solo character was only a precursor to the larger things to come, basically. I think Iron Man II was more unforgivable in the "Commercial for Avengers" aspect. I liked it, but it literally didn't need to exist in any way at all, other than to say "Oh, yeah, we're still making an Avengers movie, in case anyone forgot." On its own it really doesn't do anything. :lol:

That said, I did think Cap was by far one of the stronger stand-alone Marvel films. It does heavily foreshadow what's coming next, but it was really one of the better ones on its own, too. I'm intrigued by where the sequel might go with it.

LivingMutagen 10-25-2013 09:33 AM
Looks awesome. How will Cap leaving SHIELD affect Coulson though? I would say more but can't think of much. Falcon looks cool, as does le Winter Soldier.

raph27 10-25-2013 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1171338)
Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.
That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.

Allio 10-25-2013 06:35 PM
Just watched Captain America for the first time, I can say yeah, I'm looking forward to the second one

Slade 10-26-2013 12:56 AM
I liked the trailer. I'm okay with the 1st film, though it isn't one of my favorites. Course, I am more of a DC fan anyway. I watch Marvel movies just because I guess.

Andrew NDB 10-26-2013 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome13 (Post 1171751)
That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.
Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 10-26-2013 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1171822)
Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.
The thing i didn't like was the fact that Iron man 3 didn't know what it wanted to be. Did it want be a comedy, or a superhero film? No one knows.

And it also lacked what made Iron man brilliant: Tony Stark's brilliant comedic timing and lines. He was witty and funny in the first and even second one. in Iron man 3, however, seemed like he was trying too hard to be funny.

sdp 10-26-2013 01:10 PM
Exactly, I was so disappointed in IM3 for the same reasons as Andrew, and I actually liked Iron Man 2 even if it was more of the same from the first one. I"m more of a DC guy but the Cinematic Universe is alright, I enjoy the movies for what they are but they don't set my world on fire like they do to some people, the only one I've truly loved is the first Iron Man. This trailer looks ok, I'll probably see it before Avengers 2 but I liked the trailer for Thor 2 more which I'll probably only see before Avengers 2 as well. I think Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy might be the only two I might see in theaters besides Avengers 2 if they look interesting. Well I'm looking forward to X-Men Days of Future Past but that one isn't MCU.

TigerClaw 10-26-2013 02:23 PM
Someone made the F*ck Yeah! version of the trailer.

Spoiler:

Megchan 10-26-2013 09:13 PM
I keep expecting Captain America to yell "FLAME ON!"

tsukeru 10-27-2013 10:04 PM
My body is so not ready for this movie.

chrisdude 10-28-2013 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1171920)
Someone made the F*ck Yeah! version of the trailer.

Spoiler:
Yes!
*sends to all friends*

Raph's Girl 02-02-2014 06:07 PM
Superbowl spot:

LeotheLateBloomer 02-03-2014 08:03 PM
Even though Iron Man 3 wasn't that a great, I personally thought it was better than Iron Man 2 which had way too many comedic moments to the point where I was watching a live sitcom. Iron Man is still the best. I enjoyed both Thor films especially the last one. Captain America: The First Avenger was pretty entertaining. This new movie is looking really good. I like that he's wearing his previous since I didn't think there was anything wrong with it and I am loving how Black Widow is looking in this movie. I have a feeling this might be the best movie of Phase Two.

Garfield 02-04-2014 09:25 PM
Looks like its going to fun to watch. Especially Falcon and his wings. I saw the Captain America the first avenger recently and I liked it, granted I saw it in Spanish (I don't understand Spanish well.). My only critic is that some of the dialogue seems a little cheesy.

ToTheNines 03-07-2014 01:24 PM


New clip, possibly the opening scene. New trailer at the end too.

ToTheNines 03-14-2014 09:40 AM
So after Ant-man, Captain America 3 will be the second phase 3 movie. Same writing and directing team as Winter Soldier.

Source: IGN.

NinjaPug 03-14-2014 08:16 PM
So it's going to be Captain America 3 against Batman vs Superman on May 6, 2016. I wonder which studio blinks and moves their film.

I'm pretty pumped for Cap 2 now. It's getting tons of great early buzz. Just 3 more weeks.

TigerClaw 03-15-2014 04:19 PM
remake of the the Captain America: The Winter Soldier trailer starring a bunch of kids.

Cure 03-15-2014 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1227588)
It's getting tons of great early buzz.
The buzz that has me most nervous are the ones saying things like "this is the Black Widow movie you've been waiting for" and "Whedon isn't the only one who can write strong female characters".

Like, f*ck, Black Widow sucks and I don't want half the movie to be about her.

TigerClaw 03-15-2014 05:10 PM
I'm looking forward to it, The stuff that happens in this movie will have repercussions in Age of Ultron, Plus there's an End Credit scene supposedly sets it up.

ZariusTwo 03-26-2014 12:38 PM
Just saw it

Spoiler:
Marvel really love taking advantage of the real world conspiracy paranoia surrounding the New World Order don't they? They always make use of something along those lines in either their comics or in here.

Falcon kicked butt and I loved his exchange with Steve five minutes in, Steve's "check list" including "see Star Wars/Trek" got a laugh out of me.

Poor Peggy, words of wisdom one minute and then elderly mental crackdown the next...heart-wrenching scene, a shame this is her ultimate fate.

"I am so fired", rofl.

Widow in disguise was awesome

Steven Strange is a target, awesome namedrop

Bucky was utlized basicly for all the action porn. I'd have liked to have seen more flashbacks for him and Steve, it'd help to bridge the eras and flesh out more of the character for people who may not have seen the first Cap film. It seems they're saving up any other development for the third movie down the line.

The Baron has Loki's staff.

An age of miracles...good way of getting around the legalities of the name "mutants"

So SHIELD is gone and Nick is underground....Agents of SHIELD is going to be a very different show if it's renewed...but if you've ever seen Torchwood, you're probably thinking, yet again, how close it will be to that show's format (original organization raised to the ground, former agent starts it right back up with a rag tag group)

Lou 500 03-27-2014 02:48 AM
The Winter Soldier is sexy. I have a thing for guys with long hair. <3

ObiWanFan4life 03-27-2014 05:11 AM
Check out this kick ass poster drawn by comic book artist Pablo Rivera :

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploa...er-400x600.jpg

TigerClaw 04-04-2014 12:03 PM
The movie came out today, I plan on seeing it Saturday. :)

Raph's Girl 04-04-2014 03:58 PM
Winter Soldier was awesome!! Loved every min of it!

Spoiler:

1: Interesting that they didn't say Sharon's surname...

2: Dr. Strange is a Hydra target. Yo Bucky. You were like a block from his house... seriously during the first chase scene between Steve and Bucky I saw a building in the background that looked like Dr. Strange's house.

3: Yep Stan. Your job as a museum security guard is over. :P

4: Oh dear! Hydra has Magneto's kids!! :o

5: It was SOOO weird to see Nick without his eyepatch. I wasn't sure what I expected to see when he lifted it up.


Had a pretty packed theatre at the showing I went to. There was this adorable kid, he musta been about 5, in a complete Capt America uniform. He was flexing and protecting his mamma and sisters while we waited in line. *lol*

NinjaPug 04-04-2014 07:47 PM
Saw it today and I also loved every freaking minute of it. Great story, great characters, great action. Need to see it again before putting it at the top of my Marvel Cinematic Universe list but it's definitely up there. Unlike some of the other Marvel films this one didn't suffer from having a weak 1st or 2nd act. All 3 acts were great.

TigerClaw 04-04-2014 07:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raph's Girl (Post 1243435)
Winter Soldier was awesome!! Loved every min of it!

Spoiler:

1: Interesting that they didn't say Sharon's surname...

2: Dr. Strange is a Hydra target. Yo Bucky. You were like a block from his house... seriously during the first chase scene between Steve and Bucky I saw a building in the background that looked like Dr. Strange's house.

3: Yep Stan. Your job as a museum security guard is over. :P

4: Oh dear! Hydra has Magneto's kids!! :o

5: It was SOOO weird to see Nick without his eyepatch. I wasn't sure what I expected to see when he lifted it up.


Had a pretty packed theatre at the showing I went to. There was this adorable kid, he musta been about 5, in a complete Capt America uniform. He was flexing and protecting his mamma and sisters while we waited in line. *lol*
Did they showed the TMNT Teaser at your screening?

Turo602 04-04-2014 08:12 PM
Winter Soldier was amazing. Defenitely the best solo film to come from the MCU.

Raph's Girl 04-04-2014 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1243560)
Did they showed the TMNT Teaser at your screening?
Nope! They only showed trailers for the various upcoming Marvel films.

snake 04-04-2014 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1243285)
The movie came out today, I plan on seeing it Saturday. :)
Me too dude! I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!


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