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TigerClaw 11-23-2013 04:13 PM

Alan Ritchson talks about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
 
Alan Ritchson who plays Raphael in the new TMNT movie talks a bit about the new movie in an interview he did for thebacklot.com right here.

Here's the TMNT part of the interview.
Quote:

TBL: What about with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

AR: I actually didn’t read any of the comic books– and I really hope I don’t offend anyone saying that– but for me, I think we all know who Raphael is. He’s known as the angry hothead of the group. He is quick tempered and is quick to act. He is less thoughtful of people’s feelings and emotions and consequences. That’s something I can relate to as a person. I am very quick to act, like, ‘okay, decision’s made, let’s go for it.’

So I can relate to him in that sense, but I think just zoning in on who that guy is and then understanding the back story… how these guys were formed in the context of our story and where they came from, and the feelings of abandonment or betrayal. All those very real human feelings are something that are contained within that world, and I think we did a good job of creating a setting and a foundation for that.

So I had everything that I needed to create that character there. So I didn’t actually rely so heavily on somebody else’s perspective of Raphael twenty years ago, which to be honest like many of the cartoons like, this dude is smiling a lot. You know, they all look the same and there is so a much greater level of like, individual personality in this new reboot, you know that we haven’t seen before. So there wasn’t a lot for me to relate to, but I don’t know if people will understand where I am coming from, maybe until they see it, I don’t know.

I think as far as Ninja Turtles, I played a comic book hero [Aquaman] before, so I had some experience with trying to bring a character like that to life. It’s challenging because a comic book can span decades and there is an infinite number of authors to go to. The source material changes and these characters’ identities change. We still see it every day, like Superman is gay now in comic book nine hundred and eighty one, it’s like ‘okay well, that’s different then than the guy that started out in number one.’

Slade 11-23-2013 04:28 PM

I don't know if I like anything he said.

Jester 11-23-2013 04:38 PM

More "bad" to add to the stew that is this flick....

chrisdude 11-23-2013 05:04 PM

I get what he's saying. TMNT, like all big comic properties, has been reinterpreted so many times, I can see why he wouldn't choose to reference them. We all know what Raph's about. I doubt Ritchson will take the character to some new extreme, when he pretty much summed up overlap of Raph interpretations in two sentences.

What's wrong with a fresh take? It's not the only way to go, but it's a reasonable one.

Galactus 11-23-2013 05:08 PM

Wasn't he the one that claimed to be a fan when commenting on the negative fan and general public reaction?

This is obviously more honest and I've said it before that these actors don't know jack about the franchise beyond some vague recollections of the Fred Wolf show so these differences such as given the turtles very distinct personalities from each other are only different to what they remember.

It's obviously complete nonsense to most of these people so it's unsurprising they are not looking deeper which is sad but par of the course really.

CyberCubed 11-23-2013 05:48 PM

LOL I bet nobody making the new movie read any of the comics.

They probably used google to find out the basic plot of TMNT and the characters personalities from Wikipedia and went from there.

The Stryker 11-23-2013 05:49 PM

Anybody expecting every actor cast in the movie to also be a huge fan is fooling themselves.

Everyone creams themselves over Ledger's Joker and he admitted that he barely touched the comics they gave him. Whaaaaatever.

Shark_Blade 11-23-2013 05:50 PM

Superman is gay?

The Stryker 11-23-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1181790)
Superman is gay?

He was giving an example of how characters are different depending on who's writing them and when.


Superman was a Horse once.

CyberCubed 11-23-2013 05:53 PM

The difference is the people writing the Nick cartoon and IDW comic actually know the franchises hence the characters, references and storylines all being familiar to the fandom.

The people making this movie don't seem to have a clue of what TMNT even is.

BabyTurtles 11-23-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1181790)
Superman is gay?

IDK probably in some alternate universe....one of those "earths" I know he was a girl once....

I think he's with WonderWoman right now.

TheMasterTurtle 11-23-2013 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1181788)
LOL I bet nobody making the new movie read any of the comics.

wait... the turtle started as a comic? ;)

ironman29758 11-23-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1181790)
Superman is gay?

No like other posters said he was making an example (if you don't count the silver-bronze age bromance between Batman and Superman)

Honestly Alan isn't the first actor to admit being a big reader of comics but yeah I expect to do at least some research on the character he's playing ( watch him play Aquaman on Smallville I feel he did a fairly decent job and was pretty enjoyable as Aquaman but I feel Justin Hartley did a better job in the Aquaman tv show pilot), his Thad Castle character is pretty funny and I might (and that is a big might) I'll watch Bunger Games but I'll wait for some trailers and clips to get an inkly of how his Raphael might be and if I'll enjoy it or not.

ironman29758 11-23-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMasterTurtle (Post 1181799)
wait... the turtle started as a comic? ;)

Really?!! Get out of town! :o:)

Jester 11-23-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ironman29758 (Post 1181889)
I'll watch Bunger Games but I'll wait for some trailers and clips to get an inkly of how his Raphael might be and if I'll enjoy it or not.

Wait...there's another parody of the Hunger Games. Just watched the Starving Games last night...it was awful!

Michelangelo 11-23-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1181790)
Superman is gay?

Dear lord let there never be gay TMNTs.
Donny in love with Casey???
Never...

Slade 11-23-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1181898)
Dear lord let there never be gay TMNTs.
Donny in love with Casey???
Never...

Please don't open that can of worms.

ironman29758 11-23-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1181892)
Wait...there's another parody of the Hunger Games. Just watched the Starving Games last night...it was awful!

Wow. Sorry. You can sleep well, because that was a typo. well that's what I get for typing on my phone. But I'll check Starving Games out. How bad is it?


N

TrickOrTreater 11-24-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1181789)
Anybody expecting every actor cast in the movie to also be a huge fan is fooling themselves.

Everyone creams themselves over Ledger's Joker and he admitted that he barely touched the comics they gave him. Whaaaaatever.

Except Ledger DID read comic books relevant to Joker and the story Nolan was telling.

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/31/expl..._as_the_joker/

Not to mention doing so and locking himself in a hotel room for a month preparing for the role, keeping a Joker journal with clippings of comic book Joker in it(as well as Hyenas and pictures of Alex DeLarge from Clockwork Orange).

So Heath did a sight of a lot more than this guy apparently did.

TrickOrTreater 11-24-2013 01:15 AM

Anyway, this is something that worries me:

"how these guys were formed in the context of our story and where they came from, and the feelings of abandonment or betrayal."

Where they came from? They're mutated earth turtles.

Makes me think of the "aliens from dimension X" thing they were trying for before.

pingclang 11-24-2013 01:23 AM

I don't know why, but with every interview that comes out, I get the sinking feeling that that terrible, original script wasn't completely thrown out...

Jester 11-24-2013 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ironman29758 (Post 1181908)
Wow. Sorry. You can sleep well, because that was a typo. well that's what I get for typing on my phone. But I'll check Starving Games out. How bad is it?


N

Standard Friedberg/Seltzer schlock...only it didn't even make theaters. Take that as you will.

chrisdude 11-24-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1181931)
Anyway, this is something that worries me:

"how these guys were formed in the context of our story and where they came from, and the feelings of abandonment or betrayal."

Where they came from? They're mutated earth turtles.

Makes me think of the "aliens from dimension X" thing they were trying for before.

I dunno. We've heard Fitchner say that there's a reason the turtles and Shredder know each other, and Shredder's origin is most definitely being overhauled. We've also heard that Kevin Eastman say that the origin is being respected, but deepened. So, while Michael Bay says, "It's the ooze," I seriously doubt it's going to be as simple as just an accident.

I expect the origin of the turtles, the ancient Foot Clan, the present-day Erich Sachs Shredder, and maybe some Dimension X properties, all being tied together.

ObiWanFan4life 11-24-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1181982)
Standard Friedberg/Seltzer schlock...only it didn't even make theaters. Take that as you will.

Maybe this is a sign that people are finally learning their lesson about these movies...we can only hope.

Slade 11-24-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1181931)
Anyway, this is something that worries me:

"how these guys were formed in the context of our story and where they came from, and the feelings of abandonment or betrayal."

Where they came from? They're mutated earth turtles.

Makes me think of the "aliens from dimension X" thing they were trying for before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1181932)
I don't know why, but with every interview that comes out, I get the sinking feeling that that terrible, original script wasn't completely thrown out...

Both of these are how I'm feeling about this.

Jester 11-24-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life (Post 1181994)
Maybe this is a sign that people are finally learning their lesson about these movies...we can only hope.

Indeed. It does restore some of my faith in humanity.

ObiWanFan4life 11-24-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1182007)
Indeed. It does restore some of my faith in humanity.

We'll find out if that's the case or not when The Best Night Ever comes out next year. Just watch the trailer if you can bare it :


Raph's Girl 11-24-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1181790)
Superman is gay?

It happened in an issue of Supergirl back in like 2006. He was exposed to pink kryptonite and flirted a bit with Jimmy. :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...supergirl3.jpg

CyberCubed 11-24-2013 11:38 AM

Superman gets exposed to pink kryptonite and becomes gay?

Wow, comic books really have hit a new low. And I realize this is from 2006 but how homophobic. Pink = gay?

Coola Yagami 11-24-2013 11:46 AM

Isn't the movie basically done and the only thing left is the finishing touches on the CGI and whatnot? It's too late to say 'they changed the script'. It's already done.

ObiWanFan4life 11-24-2013 11:59 AM

I'm really on the fence about this movie. Whenever something about it sparks ny interest, something else lowers my expectations. For every interesting casting decision, there's an equally terrible one. I still might blacklist it through.

Xav 11-24-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1181982)
Standard Friedberg/Seltzer schlock...only it didn't even make theaters. Take that as you will.

Apparently it got a limited release. Though I never saw any TV ads for. Apparently even the studios don't have much faith in these type of movies anymore.

ObiWanFan4life 11-24-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1182107)
Apparently it got a limited release. Though I never saw any TV ads for. Apparently even the studios don't have much faith in these type of movies anymore.

Nobody (with any shred of sanity) has faith or interest in these films anymore.

Vulkanthekrusader 11-24-2013 02:02 PM

Well I just hope they act like the turtles at least.

Galactus 11-25-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1181789)
Anybody expecting every actor cast in the movie to also be a huge fan is fooling themselves.

Of course not. No one on this thread is remotely suggestion that.

I personally find it irksome that this particular actor did make a big point in the past of saying that he was a fan and that had read the comics and watched the show and how faithful the characters and story will be and now is saying the opposite.

It does seem to be symptomatic of a larger problem that none of the people involved in this movie can really make up their minds how they want to promote this movie. All of them bar maybe Fichtner (who is either blissfuly ignorant or doesn't care) about the stigma this movie has picked up not just with fans of the franchise but the general public but they're grasping at straws with them trying to say the 'right thing'.

We all know the usual Hollywood double talk we get when movies are being promoted but they can't even get that straight. So far the only constant is them saying how great the special effects will be and how this is a Michael Bay movie. The latter is hardly helping with the aforementioned bad reputation the movie has gotten. :roll:

mb1025 11-27-2013 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1181788)
LOL I bet nobody making the new movie read any of the comics.

They probably used google to find out the basic plot of TMNT and the characters personalities from Wikipedia and went from there.

You want to know what is funny?

I have seen so any terrible movies done by people who have read/studied the source material. Just because someone reads the comics, books, or whatever doesn't equal a good film.

Casey 11-27-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mb1025 (Post 1183280)
You want to know what is funny?

I have seen so any terrible movies done by people who have read/studied the source material. Just because someone reads the comics, books, or whatever doesn't equal a good film.

Wow. That is a REALLY good point. I'm still frustrated at the seeming lack of respect and knowledge for the franchise that I'm sensing, but you make an excellent point.

Pondslider 11-27-2013 09:49 PM

This movie is using the 80s cartoon as a jumping off point because more people are going to be remember that than the Mirage comic. There might be some characterization from the first movie, but mostly they are going for a big screen version of Fred Wolf's TMNT more than Eastman and Laird's.

Davetello 11-28-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mb1025 (Post 1183280)
You want to know what is funny?

I have seen so any terrible movies done by people who have read/studied the source material. Just because someone reads the comics, books, or whatever doesn't equal a good film.

So what? Are you suggesting that they might as well not bother doing some research because plenty of others have made a hash of it after learning about things?

This guy is being paid well (I assume) to portray a character. The least he can do is learn about said character. For me it displays a lack of professionalism.

Everyone here knows this film will blow but that isn't the point. The point is that it would suck less if they put some effort into it. They should be reading and watching everything they can; being influenced by various universes.

chrisdude 11-28-2013 08:43 PM

Unless it was decided not to use all the universes as reference. Bay and Co could have told the actors, "Look, guys. Don't go soak your heads in a bunch of TMNT content, because we're going for reinvention."

It reminds me of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The screenwriter and the kid who played Charlie had read the original book, but had never seen the old movie, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. They chose not to watch it, because they didn't watch to be influenced by it.
I think Chris Pine (Captain Kirk) said he watched only six episodes of Star Trek. He stopped because he didn't want to end up imitating William Shatner.
Both cases worked out great.


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