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miru 12-01-2013 11:13 AM

Console Gaming is Doomed!
 
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.

Cure 12-01-2013 11:17 AM

No. Go away.

Peanut 12-01-2013 11:19 AM

Ugh. Drop dead, sh*thead. Your avatar means you know SH*T about games.

CyberCubed 12-01-2013 11:22 AM

This thread is only true for Japan.

pingclang 12-01-2013 11:22 AM

They aren't doing well because there's nothing to frickin play on them, not because they're dead. If you're not into shooters there isn't really anything other than Assassin`s Creed or Knack (sp?) soooo it's more the piss-poor release than the consoles.

tmnt transformer 12-01-2013 11:38 AM

Really.... the more pointless threads that come from uninformed losers like miru will mean the death of these boards...:tgrumble:

The Stryker 12-01-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1184460)
They aren't doing well because there's nothing to frickin play on them, not because they're dead. If you're not into shooters there isn't really anything other than Assassin`s Creed or Knack (sp?) soooo it's more the piss-poor release than the consoles.

3 out of 20 is 'Nothing but shooters?'

Whatswiththeheadbands? 12-01-2013 01:18 PM

..............................................

Console gaming is NOT dead. The PS4 and Xbox one are selling extremely well, so console gaming is not dead.

Mods, i request a lock down.

CyberCubed 12-01-2013 05:31 PM

Japan doesn't like the same games as the west. Everything EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Rockstar make is of no interest to Japan.

All Japanese companies like Capcom, Square, Konami, etc have struggled this gen.

Sony's The Last Guardian the sequel to Shadow of Collossus was announced back at the start of this gen and has been in development hell for like 7 years.

pingclang 12-01-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1184483)
3 out of 20 is 'Nothing but shooters?'

I never said "Nothing but shooters," I said if you're not into them. Don't misquote me if you're gonna criticize. I just mentioned shooters since, at least where I live, those are the only games anyone talks about outside of AC and Knack.

Michelangelo 12-01-2013 05:49 PM

I actually wish console gaming was dead because that would mean that virtual reality would have been successfully implemented for all to get on board. Until that day console gaming will be around with the rest of the platforms. Atm, it is too soon to tell how things will play out for this generation of gaming systems. To a certain extent it will be those who are new to the generation, the young, that will play a large role in how things go.
I personally want to see some new ground breaking games this generation, however there doesn't seem to be much on the horizon atm. Still, there is always hope.

The Stryker 12-01-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1184583)
I never said "Nothing but shooters," I said if you're not into them. Don't misquote me if you're gonna criticize. I just mentioned shooters since, at least where I live, those are the only games anyone talks about outside of AC and Knack.

People talking about those games doesn't mean that all of the others don't exist.

Saying that there isn't much to play for people who aren't into shooters is completely wrong since there are only three in the combined launch line-up. Unless you consider Forza a shooter.

pingclang 12-01-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 1184589)
People talking about those games doesn't mean that all of the others don't exist.

Saying that there isn't much to play for people who aren't into shooters is completely wrong since there are only three in the combined launch line-up. Unless you consider Forza a shooter.

I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

Michelangelo 12-01-2013 06:02 PM

Within a year things will look very different from the way they do now with the xbox one and ps4 wrt to games. Time will tell as usual. I'm sure people will find something they like on the new generation consoles, for those that are into them, eventually.

Cure 12-01-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1184597)
I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

Geez, someone sure doesn't like being wrong and being called out on it.

The Stryker 12-01-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pingclang (Post 1184597)
I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

And there it is. Try not to say outright lies and maybe people won't correct you? Especially if you're going to be so damn touchy about it. You said that there aren't any games for people who don't like shooters on next-gen consoles. That just isn't true. Don't know how that's a problem.

Ninjinister 12-01-2013 08:24 PM

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Whatswiththeheadbands? 12-02-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister (Post 1184654)

I have a dog like that.

Bakushan 12-02-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by miru (Post 1184454)
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.

I stopped playing console games in 1998 with the N64. Have not played since. No big deal. :)

Zulithe 12-02-2013 12:33 PM

PS4 is selling every unit that comes off the factory assembly line so far. It just did record sales in its European launches.

It's still early in the gen but so far it looks like sales are very favorable.

We won't know more till we have more data. When supply catches up with demand by mid-year and see how sales look next holiday. There was lots of pent-up demand from core gamers for new consoles so the early sales have been excellent, but we need more time to see what the legs are like.

I also saw a stat a couple weeks back that PS4/Xbone tops the christmas wish list for boys, above an iphone or ipad. It's a good sign.

That said, android, ios and windows mobile devices have big advantages in that their install base doesn't reset every 6 to 8 years with a new machine. A developer can release a game on those platforms and know the install base is already there, and constantly growing and hardware being upgraded since most people are on a two year upgrade cycle in the USA. Going forward, consoles have to consider how this impacts things. Just one of their many challenges.

Metalwolf 12-02-2013 12:34 PM

Only value in the Wii U for me is the Zelda games. I don't have much interest in anything else. Zelda U is going to be coming out eventually, but when that is, nobody knows.

Michelangelo 12-02-2013 12:42 PM

Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

Ninjinister 12-02-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1184869)
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.

I'd wager not.

Storm Eagle 12-02-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1184869)
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.

Wishful thinking?

Jester 12-02-2013 04:50 PM

The most recent console i own is a PSone so I feel that I'm more than qualified to speak to the death of console gaming....

I'm just jestin'....I got nothin' to say because I don't know squat.

Peanut 12-03-2013 12:24 AM

There will always be people who want to play real games. If the industry stays as bloated and awful as it does now, or it shrinks by millions and goes back to N64/PS1 numbers, there will always be room in the world for console games as long as having a physical box under your TV makes sense.

CyberCubed 12-03-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1184869)
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.

No matter how poorly the Wii-U might sell overall, its likely still going to have at least a 5 year cycle. Nintendo isn't Sega, they're not going to kill off the Wii-U and release a new console to see it flop even harder.

Although its possible the Wii-U will only do Gamecube numbers in terms of overall sales. I guess we'll see next year when Donkey Kong, Mario Kart and Smash come out if sales pick up.

Peanut 12-03-2013 09:13 AM

If sales don't pick up to some extent with 3D World there's a huge problem. Smash and Kart will move consoles, but Donkey Kong won't even budge the needle. We already know 3D World absolutely f*cking tanked in Japan, selling less than even SM64 did at its launch, but Japan seems more and more like an absolute wasteland for console games, or anything that isn't a phone game in general.

chrisdude 12-03-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by miru (Post 1184454)
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.

This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. PS4 is selling way harder than Xbox One.

Sony and Microsoft One both claimed to sell a million units in their first day.
Sony did that while launching just US and Canada, while Xbox did that while launching in 13 different countries (including the UK and Japan). THEN Sony launched in the UK and sold a quarter million units in 48 hours - the biggest console launch in UK history. So, worldwide, PS4 is outselling Xbox One, with far less territory.

And PS4 hasn't even launched in Japan, yet, where the Xbox isn't even competitive.


The Wii U is in trouble, though. Everyone hoped Wii U would pick up when the games came, but it hasn't worked. Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart are the last big Nintendo franchises yet to arrive on Wii U. It's all up to those two games.

Peanut 12-03-2013 09:18 AM

If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.

chrisdude 12-03-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1185240)
If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.

My bad. I thought two consoles launched last month.

Peanut 12-03-2013 02:01 PM

Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.

Dawnatello Turtle Chick 12-03-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1184869)
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable. But when the company keeps losing planned games due to paying for the port-over wouldn't pay off for those gaming companies it does make it harder to win over new console buyers. Maybe if they can bring in more new customers with their bigger titles that are coming up they could turn it around (I personally don't see it happening). But honestly I don't see how they could afford to sell them much cheaper and stay afloat. However, I do see how the secondary market for Wii-U could become very affordable in the not too distant future. Just my couple of pennies...

tmnt transformer 12-03-2013 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo (Post 1184869)
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

Dude, really? The Wii U is a powerful system.... It just needs a game to use it's full power.... I'm sure that the Zelda U developers are working on useing all of it's power... same if retro studios makes another metroid game It'll be the same way.... People where saying the same thing about the 3DS....

chrisdude 12-03-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 1185327)
Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.

Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

Candy Kappa 12-03-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawnatello Turtle Chick (Post 1185336)
I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable.

That's what they all do.

Krutch 12-03-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1185373)
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

I like this quote :)

Jester 12-03-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1185373)
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

Sales Figures = Relevant
"PS4/XB1/WIIU is teh best console and the others suck" = Flame Bait.

He's just saying (in his own special way) that you weren't deep in the "Flame Bait" ballpark, but it could open the flood gates.

Peanut 12-03-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1185373)
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

F*ck civility. We've never been civil in this section, we've never pretended to be. We've also always sh*t on people who use numbers to measure dicks. Want to use numbers to back up a relevant opinion in a thread relevant to your opinion? No problem. Want to argue about the quality of a game, but have no real opinions/arguments of your own and then post a bunch of review scores to justify it? Go f*ck yourself.

Your post had sh*t all to do with the topic at hand, it was just dick waving over sold numbers on two consoles. Also, the context to which I was referring to console wars doesn't = consoles fighting for supremacy. It was console wars = clowns arguing with other clowns to justify their purchasing decisions. In that instance, yes, console wars are wholly irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And a very hearty VG Section "Pfffft!" to your typical "I'm above all your Internet bullsh*t lawl!" response. We've seen far better.

pannoni1 12-03-2013 06:09 PM

Like TV, there's nothing like the experience of a big screen that provides a realistic experience. In away, playing games in front of a huge monitor will remain for quite sometime. That said, the standalone console unit may eventually disappear, since today's TVs can connect online, and once that becomes user-friendly enough, games will become primarly download. But remember that in the music industry, the CD isn't totally dead just yet despite being out of vogue for about a decade now, so there will still be a devoted niche audience to consoles/discs for awhile.


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