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Drose18 12-11-2013 07:11 PM

NBA Discussion
 
Anyone an nba fan?
Im a bulls fan its its really hard now with all the drose injuries? Also wow pacers beat the heat!

The Stryker 12-11-2013 08:29 PM

The Knicks and Nets are awful.

That's all I got.

Wildcat 12-11-2013 10:39 PM

I watch it but Im not as into it as I used to be. It is sad about Rose, seems like a really nice guy, but he's still young. I don't think it'll ruin his career.

Honestly there is too much bs involved that I didnt realize as a kid...the acting, ridiculous rules, terrible refs and alot of players are so egotistical.

Alone the game of basketball is cool, only sport I really like, but the NBA is just stupid imo.

shuriken 02-09-2014 12:30 AM

Pretty big Bulls Fan but they'll be alright. Gonna be a solid middle seed into the playoffs but Thibs is a good enough coach to make decent decisions.
Biggest losers this season are the Lakers, Knicks and Bucks. In Contrast Pacers and Thunder look like the strongest teams out there IMO

TonySiegel 02-09-2014 09:32 PM

d. rose is that dude... hopefully he doesn't leave the league like brandon roy did...

spurs or thunder coming out of the west...

pacers or heat in the east...

the knicks are doing horrible... i hope melo doesn't leave... but if he does, ehhhhh whatever it'll be time to rebuild... again!

shuriken 02-11-2014 07:58 PM

The thing with Melo is if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he's useless. Dude has no defense (Being a Bulls fan I LOOOOVE my defense, drinking Thibs Kool-aid and not afraid to say it) and will shoot 30-50 shots a game no doubt (scoring 30-70 points and such), but you get someone to defend him tight and he's done.
Melo, as good of a shooter that he is, isn't gonna win any titles unless he starts to play more defense, do or set up picks or assist. And at this stage of his career that isn't gonna happen. Seems like like the only guys that are good solid defenders are Shumpert and Chandler.
Rumor is that he might come sign with the Bulls. I dunno about that. I'd rather the Bulls get a Stoudemire, Hansbrough or a Tyson Chandler like player. Then again Melo could boost up their offense so there's that.

TonySiegel 02-12-2014 11:52 PM

^^^^^^^

don't agree with melo being useless...

but anyway the knicks stink this year, just wanted to restate that

XERO 02-13-2014 12:23 AM

I still say that last years Finals was one of the greatest I've seen. A shame my team the Spurs couldn't finish, but it was still awesome. I hope we get back this year. It'll be tough.

Wingnut 02-13-2014 12:33 AM

Raptors aren't looking too bad, for an Eastern Conference team. They could, I emphasize could, be a dark horse.

DeRozan is silently having a hell of a year.

shuriken 02-13-2014 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TonySiegel (Post 1211646)
^^^^^^^

don't agree with melo being useless...

but anyway the knicks stink this year, just wanted to restate that

Oh no I never meant he was useless. I just said if he doesn't have the ball or is being too tightly defended than he can't really help his team any other way (useless was too strong of a word...more like limited).
Actually no he could get rebounds, but meh.
Unlike guys like LeBron, Harden, Noah or Chris Paul that can defend, do assists, steals, picks all that fun stuff. Point is Melo is a good player and will get his 30-70 points, but as a team they are going nowhere.
It's also the coaching staff's fault for doing such a bad job with such good talent.
Cleveland has a similar dilemma with Kyrie Irving. Lots of talent, but bad management/coaching. (Lakers and to an extent Brooklyn have similar problems)

And XERO yes last years finals were awesome, and I was also rooting for the Spurs as their last hoorah before Duncan, Ginobli and G-Pop retire. But oh well.

As for the Raptors well they've been solid all year, they can stand their ground with any team East Or West.

Anyone excited for the All Star break?

Wingnut 02-13-2014 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1211682)
Anyone excited for the All Star break?

No LeBron in the dunk contest, volleyball jerseys…Should be a great time.

In all honesty I do enjoy the contests. The All-Star game itself, not so much.

shuriken 02-14-2014 02:39 PM

Those jerseys are pretty terrible. The 3 point contest should be good. And really it's about time Lebron enters the contest, even though I'm not his biggest fan he is a beast.
To be honest I'm more interested in the rising star game than the actual all star game. All least Noah is representing Chicago so that's cool. He has been double double machine lately.

TonySiegel 02-15-2014 09:07 PM

hopefully the dunk contest returns to glory tonight!

shuriken 02-16-2014 11:15 AM

Bellinelli totally beasted his way to win the 3 point contest.
And John Wall had a hell of a performance on the dunk contest. It was pretty awesome.

TonySiegel 02-16-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1213123)
Bellinelli totally beasted his way to win the 3 point contest.
And John Wall had a hell of a performance on the dunk contest. It was pretty awesome.

dunk contest hasn't returned to glory in a long time...

wall killed it though!

every dunk in dunk contest history >>> blake griffin over the kia

TonySiegel 02-16-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1211682)
Oh no I never meant he was useless. I just said if he doesn't have the ball or is being too tightly defended than he can't really help his team any other way (useless was too strong of a word...more like limited).
Actually no he could get rebounds, but meh.
Unlike guys like LeBron, Harden, Noah or Chris Paul that can defend, do assists, steals, picks all that fun stuff. Point is Melo is a good player and will get his 30-70 points, but as a team they are going nowhere.
It's also the coaching staff's fault for doing such a bad job with such good talent.
Cleveland has a similar dilemma with Kyrie Irving. Lots of talent, but bad management/coaching. (Lakers and to an extent Brooklyn have similar problems)

its tough being a knicks fan :ohwell:

i think melo is a championship caliber player... i think his road to glory will be similar to dirk's... & hopefully he can accomplish that with the knicks...

i agree the knicks organization is horrid... that mentality to sell tickets @ MSG is horrible...

shuriken 02-17-2014 12:24 AM

^^Yeah well I was thinking the Knicks and the Bulls would be on opposite sides of the spectrum at this point, what without Deng and Rose, but DJ Augustin has been great. I was sure the Knicks were gonna be top 4 in the East at least (heh rhymes) but it's hard when ur management sucks.

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Originally Posted by TonySiegel (Post 1213595)
dunk contest hasn't returned to glory in a long time...

wall killed it though!

every dunk in dunk contest history >>> blake griffin over the kia

^ I liked the Blake Griffin Dunk. But Wall definitely topped it.

Also the All Star game was alright. I was actually into it this year. and the East won yay.

shuriken 02-23-2014 03:49 PM

Heat vs Bulls
Halftime and they're dead even.

psychturtle 02-24-2014 09:19 PM

Huge OKC thunder fan. Go to a few games a year. Their chemistry is a lil funky now that Westbrook came back. Sam prestigious has done excellent in building seattle uh I mean OKC. Ll

Anyways, I think OKC is a final four team but that's it. Once playoffs come, the younger guys like Jackson, lamb and Adams will underperform.

Heat out of the east.

Redeemer 02-24-2014 10:11 PM

Did anyone see Ibaka break Lebron James' nose!!!! last Heat vs Thunder holy crap that looked painful

psychturtle 02-24-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1218334)
Did anyone see Ibaka break Lebron James' nose!!!! last Heat vs Thunder holy crap that looked painful

He got his nose broken and still made the bucket! Ugh.

shuriken 02-25-2014 12:20 AM

Yeah dude's a beast as much of an anti Heat fan I am.
Thunder's been in a bit of a funk but they CAN make it all the way to the Finals. But the Clippers just outworked em Sunday.
And Bulls lost to the Heat. Impressive showing from Noah and Gibson, but not much from any other Bull.

shuriken 03-10-2014 02:11 AM

Take that Miami Heat. Bulls aint the best team, but they have enough heart hustle and muscle to beat the best.

shuriken 03-23-2014 09:50 PM

^^ I agree with most of this. MOST, But Butler and Noah are great defenders that can make it a struggle for anyone. Except Durant. But Wade won't get through the entire post season, he's been injured a lot this season. The Bulls can only beat the Heat in a 7 game series IF and ONLY IF the Heat aren't shooting more than %50, and the Bulls beat em up on the inside (more rebounds, more inside points forcing fouls). And that is a big IF. I think the Pacers (if they get their act together) are the best in the East.
Anyway gonna see the Bulls vs Pacers tomorrow. Pretty freaking stoked. Should be a blast.

Drose18 03-31-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1232731)
^^ I agree with most of this. MOST, But Butler and Noah are great defenders that can make it a struggle for anyone. Except Durant. But Wade won't get through the entire post season, he's been injured a lot this season. The Bulls can only beat the Heat in a 7 game series IF and ONLY IF the Heat aren't shooting more than %50, and the Bulls beat em up on the inside (more rebounds, more inside points forcing fouls). And that is a big IF. I think the Pacers (if they get their act together) are the best in the East.
Anyway gonna see the Bulls vs Pacers tomorrow. Pretty freaking stoked. Should be a blast.

Dont forget DJ hes the man when hes on fire! Does anyone think the bulls will amnesty booz?

shuriken 03-31-2014 05:27 PM

DJ has been a great acquisition to the Bulls. Good defender, decent assists and decent shooting percentage. Only thing is that he is prone to terrible turnovers and sometimes holds the ball too long. SOO glad Teague is gone (great potential, just seemed like he played scared).

Guitar_Raph 04-01-2014 01:23 PM

Gotta go with the Rockets. Congrats to Dwight Howard for winning the Sports Star category in the KCAs.

Drose18 04-02-2014 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1240788)
DJ has been a great acquisition to the Bulls. Good defender, decent assists and decent shooting percentage. Only thing is that he is prone to terrible turnovers and sometimes holds the ball too long. SOO glad Teague is gone (great potential, just seemed like he played scared).

Same he wasnt confident when he had the ball and couldnt make a shot for his life.

shuriken 04-02-2014 11:52 PM

^^ Poor kid. I remember he started a couple of games back in December when both Hinrich and Rose were injured and they had Mike James at backup. Terrible. I think they only won like 4 games that month.
Boozer won't need to be amnestied, his contract is up by the end of the season. It'll pretty much be his decision if he wants to return.

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph (Post 1241443)
Gotta go with the Rockets. Congrats to Dwight Howard for winning the Sports Star category in the KCAs.

Rockets are a good solid team. I root for them cuz my brother in Texas is a huge Rockets fan and that's my pick in the West. Harden is a beast and big bad Howard CAN be a beast, he's just a liability at the free throw line (so was Shaq tho, so no biggie).

shuriken 04-19-2014 03:21 PM

Who's ready for the playoffs??

Redeemer 04-19-2014 06:27 PM

Saw Nets vs Raptors earlier and the shot clock disaster:lol:
Currently watching Pacers vs Hawks. Pacers better get their crap together.
I wonder if the Heat will have enough energy to even compete??? 3 straight final appearances plus an olympic run :o That about an extra 8 months of basketball the past 3 years compared to everyone else.

shuriken 04-21-2014 11:01 AM

Aside from the Spurs and Heat every home team lost in the first game of the first round. Damn Nene and Ariza just killed my Bulls last night. It should be an interesting first round...

Redeemer 04-21-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1252234)
Aside from the Spurs and Heat every home team lost in the first game of the first round. Damn Nene and Ariza just killed my Bulls last night. It should be an interesting first round...

Chicago can't score and their highest paid player/ franchise player hasn't played for 2 years. If Rose can't be healthy they just need to cut ties with him and find a new franchise player. Cut Rose and grab Carmelo Anthony????
Chicago is what a 4 seed??? Melo can score which is what Chicago is missing.

also OKC won their home game as well don't forget.

shuriken 04-21-2014 12:19 PM

^^ They are the lowest scoring team in the league. Rose is in a tough spot, can't really trade someone that is seen as damaged goods, but still the face of the franchise (although focus has def shifted to Noah lately). Melo would bring something new to their lackluster offense. I'd prefer Kevin Love but with all the talk back and forth between Melo/Thibs/Noah it seems like a no brainer. He might stay with the Knicks after Jackson's arrival and Woodsen getting fired but I dunno.
Also forgot to mention the Thunder won as well. So 5 out of 8 home teams lost.

Redeemer 04-21-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1252268)
^^ They are the lowest scoring team in the league. Rose is in a tough spot, can't really trade someone that is seen as damaged goods, but still the face of the franchise (although focus has def shifted to Noah lately). Melo would bring something new to their lackluster offense. I'd prefer Kevin Love but with all the talk back and forth between Melo/Thibs/Noah it seems like a no brainer. He might stay with the Knicks after Jackson's arrival and Woodsen getting fired but I dunno.

Each year every team gets to use the Amnesty claws on one players. They could definitely use it on Rose. Basically they could cut Rose without any cap penalty or consequence.
That would free up enough money to grab Carmelo Anthony and maybe even Kevin Love. Two reason's they could grab both.1. The cap is going up by $5M.
2. Rose is on a Max Contract which is about $35m extra. If Carmelo signs with Bulls he would cost $35M less than keeping Rose.

They have been talking about signing Carmelo while still keeping Rose. But if they used the Amnesty clause they could sign both Melo and Love.
So you could have a starting Line-up of Noah-C,Love-PF,Boozer-SF,Melo-SG,Henerich-PG
That would be a bigger line up, but that would be a star studded line up :o

shuriken 04-22-2014 04:46 PM

^^Love is most likely going to L.A., but that situation is ridiculous in terms of how much star power it has. (It's like the 2008 Celtics again)
And as much as I agree about Rose, I just don't see them cutting Rose.

shuriken 04-29-2014 01:39 AM

So how about that crazy old Sterling huh?

Wingnut 04-29-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1255451)
So how about that crazy old Sterling huh?

Silver just dropped the hammer. Lifetime ban, $2.5 million fine, and in all likelihood the other owners will force Sterling to sell the team.

My question, where the hell has the NBA been for the last 3 decades? Sterling is a well publicized racist, slum lord, piece of garbage in general...That's all cool. Embarrass the "brand" and NOW they have a problem with it. Guess I answered my own question but the whole story really bothers me, the fact that the NAACP gave him (Sterling) lifetime achievement awards speaks volumes to the credibility of that organization too, the LA chapter at least. Money talks.

Glad they booted him, but the NBA doesn't give two sh*ts about his remarks, blatant racism, or the effects of both. He hurt the bottom line and that's what ultimately sealed his fate.

Redeemer 04-29-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wingnut (Post 1255597)
, the fact that the NAACP gave him (Sterling) lifetime achievement awards speaks volumes to the credibility of that organization too, the LA chapter at least. Money talks.

Whats worse is they gave hime (2) count it two lifetime achievement awards :lol:
NAACP really dropped the ball on that one :lol:

My only concern about the entire thing is will the NBA get sued???? The 1st amendment guarantees the right of free thought and speech. Even despite how vulgar his views are or the obscene his comments may scene it is still covered under the first amendment.
The man doesn't deserve to be a owner, but to impede on basic constitutional rights is concerning to say the least.:ohwell:

Peanut 04-29-2014 04:11 PM

You have the right to say whatever the f*ck you want, that doesn't shield you from the repercussions of saying them. Certain forms of speech aren't even protected under the first amendment according to your court system, such as obscenity, which this certainly falls under.

It's amazing how many Americans understand their own constitution less than people who aren't American.

Either way, you give up specific rights when you sign contracts, such as those that allow you to own a sports team or promote a product as simple examples. I can't sign a contract with Coca-Cola, then run out and spew hate speech and expect to not lose my endorsement deal because I'm allowed freedom of speech.


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