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turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 03:56 PM

Which version of shredder was/is your favorite?
 
And why? All versions of the shows, and movies.

turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 03:56 PM

Also
 
In comics if you want.

Candy Kappa 01-15-2014 04:19 PM

My favorite is Mirage, he is the better character. Although with his short stay in the comics I do also enjoy IDW and Nickelodeon.

Least would be Ch'rell and his cyber counterpart, just too one dimensional and despite his background and seemingly competent action, he is still very useless against the turtles.

turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 04:39 PM

Agreed
 
Although there could be some interesting arguments.

Gin Rummy 01-15-2014 07:45 PM

My favorite Shredder would have had to have been the one in the 1st movie. Gotta love that voice! :D

snake 01-15-2014 08:09 PM

OT or Nick.

turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 08:15 PM

Especially
 
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Originally Posted by Gin Rummy (Post 1196516)
My favorite Shredder would have had to have been the one in the 1st movie. Gotta love that voice! :D

When's he's flying into the back of a garbage truck

Shark_Blade 01-15-2014 09:23 PM

TMNT 2 Shredder (NES Video Game)

http://i.imgur.com/TAEd8J5.jpg

This one will forever be my favorite Shredder. He looks so badass and lethal, and was SO HARD to beat when I was very young. He kidnapped April, smashed through an office window and plummeted down Manhattan street, gloated in front of the turtles and has a kick-ass theme music. A good villain is always intimidating and tough, so he gets a lot of respect from me early on. :D

OT Shredder

http://i.imgur.com/0P75jyU.png

Second one will be OT Shredder due to the physical resemblance to the video game Shredder. And his voice is great - evil, sarcastic and humorous at times. I love his origin story with Hamato Yoshi, how he framed Yoshi for a attempted murder crime resulting Yoshi's banishment from the clan. I grew with OT so yeah, it resonates well with my childhood.


1st Movie Shredder

http://i.imgur.com/OhxBLjH.jpg
Third one will be movie Shredder, cause hell yeah he's dangerous as ****.

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..I have no respect for lame Utrom Shredder. Just gross and dull ugh. :tconfuse:

MikeandRaph87 01-15-2014 09:31 PM

1987 cartoon version. No contest! The most layered and underrated version there will ever be. I loved everything about him from the voice to the personality to his relationship with fellow villains to his rivalry with Splinter and the TMNT. I hope we will get a proper intreptation of him in the upcoming Nick episode in a cameo if he shows up.

turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 09:45 PM

respect
 
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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1196553)
TMNT 2 Shredder (NES Video Game)

http://i.imgur.com/TAEd8J5.jpg

This one will forever be my favorite Shredder. He looks so badass and lethal, and was SO HARD to beat when I was very young. He kidnapped April, smashed through an office window and plummeted down Manhattan street, gloated in front of the turtles and has a kick-ass theme music. A good villain is always intimidating and tough, so he gets a lot of respect from me early on. :D


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..I have no respect for lame Utrom Shredder. Just gross and dull ugh. :tconfuse:

Haha maybe we was so hard cause you were goin at him with Donatello :tlol: but for real very strong argument, the OT shredder was the most layered like someone else mentioned in this thread

MsMarvelDuckie 01-15-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1196556)
1987 cartoon version. No contest! The most layered and underrated version there will ever be. I loved everything about him from the voice to the personality to his relationship with fellow villains to his rivalry with Splinter and the TMNT. I hope we will get a proper intreptation of him in the upcoming Nick episode in a cameo if he shows up.


Absolutely! This is the one I grew up with, and as incompetent as he could be at times, his voice, humor, bickering with Krang, his cruel treatment of his minions, everything about him was great. I always wanted to know what made him so evil, when it was clear that the Foot was honorable and noble before he took over. I also wondered why he hated Yoshi so much in the OT. I wish we'd gotten to see more of their background together in that series. But it was Avery's portrayal of him that made him so great to me.

Second would be the movie version, possibly tied with Ch'rell from 2K3. I liked both equally, though the movie will always have a special place in my heart as my FIRST intro to the TMNT.

turtlefanforever 01-15-2014 11:31 PM

Yes!
 
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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1196578)
But it was Avery's portrayal of him that made him so great to me. TMNT.

It's amazing how those voice actors do it. They just look at the picture and think up the voice themselves

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 01-16-2014 02:35 AM

I didn't grow up with the comics.
So... my fav Shredders in the 30 years of my life would be (in no order):

The OT Shredder
The 1st Movie Shredder

And whichever version kidnapped baby Miwa, raised her as Karai and trained her to kill Splinter and the Turtles. I never read this character but it's SO twisted!
Maybe I like the concept more than which Shredder it was.

turtlefanforever 01-16-2014 03:05 AM

Yeah
 
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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza (Post 1196622)
I didn't grow up with the comics.
So... my fav Shredders in the 30 years of my life would be (in no order):

The OT Shredder
The 1st Movie Shredder

And whichever version kidnapped baby Miwa, raised her as Karai and trained her to kill Splinter and the Turtles. I never read this character but it's SO twisted!
Maybe I like the concept more than which Shredder it was.

I get what you're saying.

Refractive Reflections 01-16-2014 04:08 AM

OT Shredder and 1st Movie Shredder.

With OT Shredder, as others above had said before he was layered with his feud with Splinter, having a brother as a police officer, the humor in arguing with Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady, and an icy alliance with Krang that developed into a much more willing collaborative one.

Even though the action scenes had to be water-downed and comedy had to be interjected to avoid the heat already from overprotective parents, he still was threatening and competent. Yes, there were food fights and slips on banana peels but when it came to whatever was being used as a weapon he used it effectively, and the slips/falls were more circumstantial rather than some innate clumsiness as compared to Rocksteady and Bebop.

By season 7 and 8, cartoons in general were becoming darker, and we saw him transition back into the ominous super villain from the first season.

With 1st movie Shredder, the acting and writing was able to effectively make Shredder and his brutality believable, especially with the scene when he taunts the Turtles in saying he killed the "old rat" and not even calling Splinter by his name in that scene.

Shiro Kame 01-16-2014 05:40 AM

Utrom Shredder or Nick Shredder. They were/are both bad@$$ cartoon villains who actually managed to be near-possible to beat.

pannoni1 01-16-2014 07:56 AM

I've answered this before, though since it was before Nick/IDW had gotten far along, I'll have to say the current Nickelodeon Shredder. He appears enough to be a threat and doesn't clown around over the top at times like OT Shredder does, and we've seen a couple good battles with him so far. Plus Kevin Michael Richardson is a great voice actor that provides a unique take on the character. OT Shredder comes in second place due to the sillyness, but of course has the great insults and occassionally can be competent such as in Ninja Sword of Nowhere and in the Eye of Sarnath Arc. 4kids is good and comes in third on my preferences, but I felt 4kids tried a bit too hard with Shredder, and it showed with the multiple mantles and of course Ch'rell, but it was still interesting to watch that can still haunt me on a rewatch. Mirage Shredder is next since each appearance of him really feels special, though he's a bit too weak to be a good superthreat. IDW I don't care about since he hasn't contributed too much at this point, plus the idea of going against Krang will make his impact against the Turtles delayed until they can get themselves together; at least Nickelodeon seems destined for a Kraang/Shredder alliance like in the OT. TNM of course is the weakest, being a pet joke early on.

Mzx10484 01-16-2014 08:24 AM

The Mirage Shredder is my favourite !! !! The appearance is the reason.

TurtleTitan97 01-16-2014 11:19 AM

It would have to be a three way tie between 1st movie, 2k3, and Nick.

turtlefanforever 01-16-2014 12:21 PM

I know right?
 
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Originally Posted by Mzx10484 (Post 1196670)
The Mirage Shredder is my favourite !! !! The appearance is the reason.

He's clearly the most intimidating looking.

RaphAndDonnie 01-16-2014 02:23 PM

If I were to rank them (shows and comics included) I'd say Nick Shredder, IDW Shredder, OT Shredder and then 2k3 Shredder. I can't really pick one difinitive favorite, I like them all for different reasons.

ABrown 01-17-2014 10:19 AM

What's weird is that my favorite Shredder is probably the 4Kids Utrom Shredder, and I'm not even a fan of him being an utrom. He was just that great of a Shredder/Oroku Saki that it trumps the fact that he's an utrom.

Pterobat 01-17-2014 08:41 PM

Ch'rell, always. I don't care what he actually was: the guy just radiated coolness.

Fred Wolf Shredder, the lovable idiot, is close to.

turtlefanforever 01-17-2014 09:50 PM

Interesting takes
 
Yeah the general awesomeness canceled out the utrom

Pterobat 01-19-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1197241)
Yeah the general awesomeness canceled out the utrom

Well, just for the record, I don't think the Utrom factor needed to be transcended. Ch'rell was just another part of the 4Kids series' merging of separate parts of the Mirage universe, and I had no attachment to The Shredder as a character, so I'm fine with him not being human.

Even a tiny alien octopus.

turtlefanforever 01-19-2014 09:15 PM

Yeah
 
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Originally Posted by Pterobat (Post 1197784)
Well, just for the record, I don't think the Utrom factor needed to be transcended. Ch'rell was just another part of the 4Kids series' merging of separate parts of the Mirage universe, and I had no attachment to The Shredder as a character, so I'm fine with him not being human.

Even a tiny alien octopus.

I get what you're saying.

Basaka 01-21-2014 08:18 AM

Im really liking the IDW Shredder. For the longest time it was Mirage Shredder, and that was mostly the look of him because he wasn't in the series that much. The IDW Shredder is a rad interpretation of the character IMHO. He's a douche, coupled with the mystical aspects of the character, make for a solid Shredder. Granted I'm about to read City Fall arc so my opinion may change.

turtlefanforever 01-21-2014 11:27 AM

I'm hearing a lot of good things
 
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Originally Posted by Basaka (Post 1198463)
Im really liking the IDW Shredder. For the longest time it was Mirage Shredder, and that was mostly the look of him because he wasn't in the series that much. The IDW Shredder is a rad interpretation of the character IMHO. He's a douche, coupled with the mystical aspects of the character, make for a solid Shredder. Granted I'm about to read City Fall arc so my opinion may change.

I'm gonna have to really get into IDW more. I loved city fall. And I've read a couple origin ones and a few others. I've never been that big on comic books.

The Fifth Turtle 01-21-2014 11:40 AM

Movie 1 Shredder. IMO he was a VERY good interpretation of Mirage Shredder.

BabyTurtles 01-21-2014 11:41 AM

I like Nick shredder :)

blindturtle02 01-21-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1198531)
I like Nick shredder :)

Me too. I think Kevin Michael Richardson delivers a menacing performance. Although the OT Shredder ties with Nick Shredder for me. I should have added an 's there because now it sounds like 2012 Shredder has this horribly unintimidating first name. Nah I'll just leave it as is.

turtlefanforever 01-21-2014 03:00 PM

Yup!
 
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Originally Posted by The Fifth Turtle (Post 1198528)
Movie 1 Shredder. IMO he was a VERY good interpretation of Mirage Shredder.

Couldn't say it better my friend

Basaka 01-21-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1198521)
I'm gonna have to really get into IDW more. I loved city fall. And I've read a couple origin ones and a few others. I've never been that big on comic books.

You won't be disappointed, IDW is making a damn good Turtles book right now.

Quote:

Movie 1 Shredder. IMO he was a VERY good interpretation of Mirage Shredder.
Oh yeah, can't forget Movie Shredder! He was definitely awesome. They did such a good job translating the Mirage Shredder to that movie I usually think of them as the same.

Icebot 01-21-2014 05:54 PM

My favorite Shredders are 1987 Shredder, 2003 Utrom Shredder and 2003 True Shredder.

turtlefanforever 01-21-2014 06:33 PM

Yeah that's what I hear
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basaka (Post 1198626)
You won't be disappointed, IDW is making a damn good Turtles book right

Oh yeah, can't forget Movie Shredder! He was definitely awesome. They did such a good job translating the Mirage Shredder to that movie I usually think of them as the same.


I'll take that into consideration if I ever get my hands on em

blindturtle02 01-21-2014 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icebot (Post 1198716)
My favorite Shredders are 1987 Shredder, 2003 Utrom Shredder and 2003 True Shredder.

Oh I forgot about True Shredder! Need to dig out my Ninja Tribunal DVD again. I liked Utrom Shredder as well. Mean little sucker, but he does have a special place in my heart all the same. I guess Karai was an ok Shredder although she couldn't really get the Shredder laugh right and her,"Watch out for Shredder," just didn't do it for me in the season 4 intro. I always imagined utrom Shredder coaching her at some point before he was banished by the other utroms.

"Oh no, sweetheart. Say it with more malicious intent and work on that fear inspiring laugh a little. And be sure to call Splinter rat. Just rat. Rodent'll also do in a pinch." Say what you will about utrom Shredder. He may not appeal to some fans, but he was great with kids. Well there was that bit with him going crazy and attempting to destroy all of existence in Turtles Forever but surely we can overlook that. He might have seen the future and discovered that such villains as Tripple Threat and Jammerhead would take center stage. I mean, wouldn't you wanna destroy all of existence if you knew morons like those were going to show up and go all Saturday morning cartoony?

The Fifth Turtle 01-21-2014 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basaka (Post 1198626)
You won't be disappointed, IDW is making a damn good Turtles book right now.



Oh yeah, can't forget Movie Shredder! He was definitely awesome. They did such a good job translating the Mirage Shredder to that movie I usually think of them as the same.

I too think of them as the same. :tgrin:

Gwydion 01-21-2014 08:04 PM

He may not be the most menacing, but somehow I think I'll always like '87 Shredder the best. He always managed to amuse me.

shuriken 01-21-2014 08:40 PM

Movie 1 Shredder tied with Mirage Shredder.
Mirage Shredder because of the fact that he was the TMNT's first real villain, and even after he was defeated it really didn't solve anything, and it just made things more complicated for everyone the Turtles ever befriended.
Movie 1 Shredder was a slightly watered down version of Mirage Shredder. He was ruthless and menacing, without any of the gray area that Mirage gave him.

2nd-2012 Shredder- Easily the most intimidating and downright scary Shredder.

3rd 4kids- Ch'rell was awesome because we got to see the dichotomy of him being Saki (a respected business man) and the Shredder (an underworld crime boss/intergalactic criminal). Sure he became crazy and wanted to destroy everything but whatever. Plus his outfit was boss.

4th-OT Shredder because he's such a goofball but had his badass moments as well. The relationship between him and Krang was great because it's so ridiculous and refreshing.

5th-IDW Shredder- The most Ninja-esque of all the Shredders he is a cold calculating specter of the past that feels it's his birthright to rule "A City of Lights" and isn't past alienating even his family to get what he wants. His plans tend to blow up in his face though.

6th-Movie 2 Shredder- Pretty much a live action Fred Wolfe Shredder.

7th-Next Mutation- Dude looked like a Power Ranger villain and fell off hard. I imagine the other Shredders sitting at a bar laughing at him as he wallows in the corner pleading that he didn't get a chance to shine "I was gonna make a comeback in season 2 damnit..."

nimajneb 01-22-2014 02:27 AM

Out of all the iterations of the Shredder, i have to say, IDW's Shredder is doing it for me right now.
So much depth to his character and the writing and artwork give the character a real presence straight of the page.
(But as a toy: The shredder v2 from the current line is awesome!)


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