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Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice
Warner Bros has officially announced today that, They are pushing back the release date of the Man of Steel sequel, from July 17, 2015, to May 6 2016.
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That's 3 full years from now, I don't even know if I'll still care about the movie by then.
And waiting 4 years between Superman movies, and even more for Batman solo films again? This is just plain stupid. If they at least had a Batman solo movie inbetween this it wouldn't be so bad. Won't Affleck be too old by the time this movie hits? |
Yeah the extra wait sucks but it's not as bad as what you listed.
That's not even 2.5 years from now. Not a full 3. It'll be less than 3 years between movies. Not 4. Affleck will be 3 months older than he would've been when they film this. Filming only got pushed back a quarter. The original release date felt too rushed. Also interesting that they put it on a date that Marvel already scheduled an unannounced movie. I don't think Dr. Strange or Black Panther or whatever they're planning will stick to that date. |
Good. Now they can take their time instead of rushing it out, which is what they were doing.
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Dag. They're already filming. But, if that's what it takes, cool. Pretty much everyone agrees they were pushing it too fast.
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They pretty much killed all hype and enthusiasm for this movie. Releasing in 2015 alongside Avengers 2 would have been epic.
By 2016 the superhero movie market could burst and it just isn't exciting. Most of us will be in our 30's by then and will we even care? Thinking of the year 2016 makes me sick to my stomach, I can't even predict how different my life could be by then. |
30 year olds don't care about movies. Gotcha.
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No need to rush, take the time needed. :cool:
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Also, there are only people in the world roughly CyberCubed's age.
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I remember thinking, when I found out there were building up to The Avengers, "Geez! X-Men, Batman, Spider-Man, Superman - It's been non-stop superhero movies for ten years! Who's even going to care by 2012?"
Also, let's not forget both Iron Man and Thor made more than ever after The Avengers. |
It's odd that DC did not plan ahead and have a Batman film in this gap.
Didn't the last Batman film come out in 2012? It'll have been 4 years. |
I'd have been almost 30 in mid July of 2014, but now that it's pushed back to May of the next year...crap. Now I won't care about this film.
BUT....I can be thankful. Liebesman's TMNT comes out after my 30th birthday. I can stop caring about that one now...dodged THAT bullet. |
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Pushed back til 2016, huh? Well I guess 2015 is going to be a huge year for Disney with Star Wars and Marvel stuff. I guess I'll also have to wait til 2016 for an Injustice II. |
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And even though this is a "new" Batman, he's not Batman at square-one. This is an older Batman who likely already went through a bunch of rogues, it just happened off-screen. They really should have had a Batman solo movie introducing Ben Affleck's Batman before this movie. |
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we even had a meeting about it |
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Great, more waiting:(
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This news bummed me out when I first saw it, but it's for the best. It really goes to show how serious they're taking this film, so hopefully the end product meets, if not, exceeds expectations. I still think a second Superman film would have been appropriate before jumping into this one.
They should have established Superman as the boyscout and Earth's champion, before making him clash with Batman. Unless this movie is about the rise of superheroes and proving themselves not a threat to mankind after the whole Man of Steel catastrophe. |
I actually agree with CyberCubed (shock!:o). In my opinion, this shouldn't even be a sequel to Man of Steel and instead should just make a legit MoS 2 and focus on the relationship between Superman and Lex Luthor. Then Ben Affleck should get his own Batman movie within the next couple of years before this Batman vs Superman film gets released. And finally, Gal Gadot should have her own Wonder Women film either before or after the BvS film.
To me from a business standpoint, it makes more sense. |
While 'Cubed's little thing about people in their 30s not caring about superhero movies is a bit top-heavy (I'm 31 and am as enthusiastic as ever), I do agree that the superhero movie boom period will eventually cool down sometime this decade and that DC will miss the boat just as they get their act together.
That said, I'm glad they're slowing this process down to try and get things right. Much as I think DC have it all over Marvel in terms of cartoons and live-action shows, this need to compete and catch up on a theatrical level has gotten them in all sorts of hot water with movies of divisive quality and relying on the Bat cash cow as a quickfix solution. They should have trusted the Superman brand a hell of a lot more |
Seems like the initial announcement of a batman vs superman was a reaction move to Marvel's huge success in theaters. To me, this move may show that DC is still trying to figure out how to get going on expanding their universe. Unfortunately they do not have the same formula that has vaulted marvel to the top. DC seemed desperate with this movie. Glad they moved it back. I hope that they give Henry another superman movie and allow that character to develop more. Casting wonder woman in a Batman vs. Superman movie was complete over saturation. Might as well just focus on batman and superman and build up to a justice league. We'll see I guess.
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Some of you guys are talking like they dropped the Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman concept. They didn't say that.
I said it when the announcement happened, and I still believe it: Throwing in Batman was done in a panic. After spending tons on the movie and promotion, Man of Steel did less than amazing in the box office, and the reactions were mixed. That points to a worse sequel performance. Instead of dropping the franchise, they were dead set on moving forward, because they want Justice League so badly. I think they were just in over their head, and realized they couldn't scramble that quickly to throw this movie together. |
Going by this the earliest we could get the next Batman solo film is 2018...and that's only if they start working on it both during and immediately after this film comes out in 2016.
That's the problem. We won't get a new Batman film for almost a decade. 2018 is probably being generic. By that point Affleck will be way too old to play Batman...I doubt they're going to do a 50 year old Batman movie...and they'll just have to recast again. WB has horrible planning. Kids need to grow up seeing Batman. The fact that the last Batman movie was in 2012 and the next one won't be till god knows when is disturbing. |
They just finished a trilogy of Batman films. They dont need to throw a new one out every two years. I'm glad there will be 4 years between movies with Batman so it gives us time between Nolan's version and Snyder's version.
I like the way they're handling Batman now. They're bringing a new interpretation of the character into a movie where they don't have to re-tell his origin story. From there they can spin this Batman off into solo films if they want to. |
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An article on the Superman homepage says that an unnamed source allegedly working in the art dept. on the film, who was either fired or quit due to the delay, leaked a bunch of potential spoilers from the movie.
Quoted from http://supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=14497 Spoiler:
I can buy pretty much all of that. It all fits perfectly with what we already knew and what we were supposing, for better or worse. Obviously, take things with a mountain of salt, but it all seems highly plausible. Could have been from an early version of the script, of course, or if it is all accurate they may very well change a lot of it now, but it gives us a good idea of where things are probably headed. In another article on the site, Kevin Smith continues to swear up and down that Affleck as Batman is going to be amazing, especially the suit, which he describes as "like nothing they've ever done on film so far" and "The Batman costume you've always wanted to see." I'm intrigued. Also, apparently the new Wonder Woman signed a 3-picture deal, for Superman/Batman, a WW solo film, and Justice League. Man, her liver may just fail from all the steroids she's going to have to take to look anything like Diana for that kind of duration. Seriously, lady, eat a f*cking sandwich. |
Sounds good Leo656. Sounds like a good way to add Wonder Woman into this movie, so she (hopefully) won't feel out of place.
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Still feels kinda "crammed", but there's also a persistent rumor that they're actually shooting Superman/Batman and Justice League simultaneously, so who knows?
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Superman living in exile feels like a rehash of Batman abandoning Gotham in the Nolan trilogy between the second and third movie. Meh.
Also did they confirm Nightwing since they mentioned Robin and Batman had a falling out? Don't see why that would be in the movie unless Nightwing appeared. |
Again, all just rumors, so nothing at all is "confirmed". Just "likely to be true based on what we already know". But yeah, I'm puzzled by the Robin bit.
Also, by the Metallo/Clark Kent thing. It seems like Snyder and Co. really, really hate the idea of Superman having a secret identity and are trying to avoid using it as much as possible. We get it, guys. His disguise is "quaint" and some people find it flat-out corny. Whatever. It's also integral to the mythology, and while I understood downplaying it for story purposes in MoS, I was looking forward to it being expanded on in future films. Just like eliminating the red trunks, downplaying his Clark persona so much seems way too much like pandering to the internet geeks. We'll see how it turns out in the end, I guess. |
I like the idea of the Batmobile design, and also Metallo. Seems good so far, nothing has really made me go "That's a bad move, i don't like that."
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Superman consistently being portrayed as less-than-heroic within the context of his own damn movie series is puzzling as hell, you gotta admit that.
I don't care what anyone says about "Superman Returns". That scene on the baseball field where a crowd of people erupt into thunderous applause for the triumphant hero? More of THAT, please. That's the kind of feeling Superman and his films are supposed to evoke. Not him being viewed as a dangerous menace and "going off into exile because darn it, the world just doesn't understand him." He's not a dark character. He's not a maudlin or conflicted character. He's "Earth's Greatest Hero". Period. I liked MoS. I'm cautiously optimistic for the new movie(s). But more and more, I'm wondering if these people even "get it". |
More Mopey Superman.
Great. |
Well, it's Nolan's spin on Superman and all that. Of course he's gonna be mopy! Ya know, that's a nice nickname for him.
Metallo huh? He's always been one of my favorite bad guys, so looking forward to him being in the film. I liked MOS so I'm hoping I'll enjoy the next one. Do we know if Lex is going to be in it? I hope it's not campy loony Lexie again. The sinister businessman persona hiding behind a benevolent facade is more interesting. |
I'm willing to bet Lex will be similar to how he was portrayed in the John Byrne-era comics. The best thing about MoS was it was very close to the comic books, even in some fairly obscure ways (like having Rondors on Krypton and one of Krypton's moons being blown up).
I just want more "fun" in the Superman film franchise. MoS does get better the more you watch it, and it's a great film on a technical level, but I'll never forget the contrast in the audience's attitude on opening night between Superman Returns and MoS, no matter people's opinions on either film nowadays. With "Returns", as soon as it ended there was an enthusiastic ovation from the entire theater (they popped huge for the plane rescue scene, too). With MoS, everyone just got up and walked out looking really angry, and only like two people besides me and my wife stayed to see if there was anything after the credits. It was like they couldn't wait to leave. Hindsight notwithstanding, people's initial gut reactions to each movie couldn't have been more different. They seemed to feel like MoS was an ordeal. At least nobody yelled out "That sucked!", like they did at the "Hulk" opener. :lol: (It didn't, but that movie's a whole other debate) |
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