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TigerClaw 01-17-2014 08:01 PM

Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice
 
Warner Bros has officially announced today that, They are pushing back the release date of the Man of Steel sequel, from July 17, 2015, to May 6 2016.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/...hs-to-may-2016
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Warner Bros. announced today that they have pushed the release date of the Batman vs. Superman movie, aka Man of Steel sequel, a whopping 10 months from July 17, 2015 until May 6, 2016 to allow "the filmmakers time to realize fully their vision, given the complex visual nature of the story."

CyberCubed 01-17-2014 08:14 PM

That's 3 full years from now, I don't even know if I'll still care about the movie by then.

And waiting 4 years between Superman movies, and even more for Batman solo films again? This is just plain stupid.

If they at least had a Batman solo movie inbetween this it wouldn't be so bad. Won't Affleck be too old by the time this movie hits?

NinjaPug 01-17-2014 08:46 PM

Yeah the extra wait sucks but it's not as bad as what you listed.

That's not even 2.5 years from now. Not a full 3.

It'll be less than 3 years between movies. Not 4.

Affleck will be 3 months older than he would've been when they film this. Filming only got pushed back a quarter.

The original release date felt too rushed. Also interesting that they put it on a date that Marvel already scheduled an unannounced movie. I don't think Dr. Strange or Black Panther or whatever they're planning will stick to that date.

Cure 01-17-2014 09:08 PM

Good. Now they can take their time instead of rushing it out, which is what they were doing.

Jester 01-17-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1197231)
Good. Now they can take their time instead of rushing it out, which is what they were doing.

I agree with this guy more and more everyday....

chrisdude 01-17-2014 09:55 PM

Dag. They're already filming. But, if that's what it takes, cool. Pretty much everyone agrees they were pushing it too fast.

CyberCubed 01-17-2014 10:07 PM

They pretty much killed all hype and enthusiasm for this movie. Releasing in 2015 alongside Avengers 2 would have been epic.

By 2016 the superhero movie market could burst and it just isn't exciting. Most of us will be in our 30's by then and will we even care?

Thinking of the year 2016 makes me sick to my stomach, I can't even predict how different my life could be by then.

Cure 01-17-2014 10:12 PM

30 year olds don't care about movies. Gotcha.

Shark_Blade 01-17-2014 10:17 PM

No need to rush, take the time needed. :cool:

Peanut 01-17-2014 10:17 PM

Also, there are only people in the world roughly CyberCubed's age.

Roseangelo 01-17-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1197214)
That's 3 full years from now

Did math change and no one told me?

chrisdude 01-17-2014 10:28 PM

I remember thinking, when I found out there were building up to The Avengers, "Geez! X-Men, Batman, Spider-Man, Superman - It's been non-stop superhero movies for ten years! Who's even going to care by 2012?"

Also, let's not forget both Iron Man and Thor made more than ever after The Avengers.

CyberCubed 01-17-2014 10:30 PM

It's odd that DC did not plan ahead and have a Batman film in this gap.

Didn't the last Batman film come out in 2012? It'll have been 4 years.

Jester 01-17-2014 10:31 PM

I'd have been almost 30 in mid July of 2014, but now that it's pushed back to May of the next year...crap. Now I won't care about this film.

BUT....I can be thankful. Liebesman's TMNT comes out after my 30th birthday. I can stop caring about that one now...dodged THAT bullet.

chrisdude 01-17-2014 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1197263)
It's odd that DC did not plan ahead and have a Batman film in this gap.

Didn't the last Batman film come out in 2012? It'll have been 4 years.

The Amazing Spider-Man was five years after Spider-Man 3, and people thought that was too soon. And people didn't like Spider-Man 3.

blindturtle02 01-17-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1197264)
I'd have been almost 30 in mid July of 2014, but now that it's pushed back to May of the next year...crap. Now I won't care about this film.

BUT....I can be thankful. Liebesman's TMNT comes out after my 30th birthday. I can stop caring about that one now...dodged THAT bullet.

I'm very interested in your opinions concerning these new movies, dude! I wish I had been on here when all the mess concerning both these films hit the fan.

Pushed back til 2016, huh? Well I guess 2015 is going to be a huge year for Disney with Star Wars and Marvel stuff. I guess I'll also have to wait til 2016 for an Injustice II.

CyberCubed 01-18-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1197268)
The Amazing Spider-Man was five years after Spider-Man 3, and people thought that was too soon. And people didn't like Spider-Man 3.

But they had no choice there. Sony was in contract that they had to make another Spiderman film within 5 years or it would expire.

And even though this is a "new" Batman, he's not Batman at square-one. This is an older Batman who likely already went through a bunch of rogues, it just happened off-screen.

They really should have had a Batman solo movie introducing Ben Affleck's Batman before this movie.

Allio 01-18-2014 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 1197260)
Did math change and no one told me?

Yes

we even had a meeting about it

Jester 01-18-2014 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1197295)
They really should have had a Batman solo movie introducing Ben Affleck's Batman and a Wonder Woman solo movie before this movie.

Fixed that for ya. Heck, MoS2 ought to be just Supes. This Justice League Lite or Trinity or whatever is a joke.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 01-18-2014 05:30 AM

Great, more waiting:(

Voltron 01-18-2014 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1197231)
Good. Now they can take their time instead of rushing it out, which is what they were doing.

Indeed. Also, firing out a ton of Batman and Superman movies would end up over-saturating the market.

ObiWanFan4life 01-18-2014 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1197231)
Good. Now they can take their time instead of rushing it out, which is what they were doing.

We can only hope they take the extra time to work on the story instead of trying to avoid the competition in 2015.

Turo602 01-18-2014 05:53 AM

This news bummed me out when I first saw it, but it's for the best. It really goes to show how serious they're taking this film, so hopefully the end product meets, if not, exceeds expectations. I still think a second Superman film would have been appropriate before jumping into this one.

They should have established Superman as the boyscout and Earth's champion, before making him clash with Batman. Unless this movie is about the rise of superheroes and proving themselves not a threat to mankind after the whole Man of Steel catastrophe.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-18-2014 08:32 AM

I actually agree with CyberCubed (shock!:o). In my opinion, this shouldn't even be a sequel to Man of Steel and instead should just make a legit MoS 2 and focus on the relationship between Superman and Lex Luthor. Then Ben Affleck should get his own Batman movie within the next couple of years before this Batman vs Superman film gets released. And finally, Gal Gadot should have her own Wonder Women film either before or after the BvS film.

To me from a business standpoint, it makes more sense.

ZariusTwo 01-18-2014 08:45 AM

While 'Cubed's little thing about people in their 30s not caring about superhero movies is a bit top-heavy (I'm 31 and am as enthusiastic as ever), I do agree that the superhero movie boom period will eventually cool down sometime this decade and that DC will miss the boat just as they get their act together.

That said, I'm glad they're slowing this process down to try and get things right. Much as I think DC have it all over Marvel in terms of cartoons and live-action shows, this need to compete and catch up on a theatrical level has gotten them in all sorts of hot water with movies of divisive quality and relying on the Bat cash cow as a quickfix solution. They should have trusted the Superman brand a hell of a lot more

psychturtle 01-18-2014 09:02 AM

Seems like the initial announcement of a batman vs superman was a reaction move to Marvel's huge success in theaters. To me, this move may show that DC is still trying to figure out how to get going on expanding their universe. Unfortunately they do not have the same formula that has vaulted marvel to the top. DC seemed desperate with this movie. Glad they moved it back. I hope that they give Henry another superman movie and allow that character to develop more. Casting wonder woman in a Batman vs. Superman movie was complete over saturation. Might as well just focus on batman and superman and build up to a justice league. We'll see I guess.

chrisdude 01-18-2014 09:26 AM

Some of you guys are talking like they dropped the Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman concept. They didn't say that.

I said it when the announcement happened, and I still believe it: Throwing in Batman was done in a panic. After spending tons on the movie and promotion, Man of Steel did less than amazing in the box office, and the reactions were mixed. That points to a worse sequel performance. Instead of dropping the franchise, they were dead set on moving forward, because they want Justice League so badly. I think they were just in over their head, and realized they couldn't scramble that quickly to throw this movie together.

CyberCubed 01-18-2014 03:44 PM

Going by this the earliest we could get the next Batman solo film is 2018...and that's only if they start working on it both during and immediately after this film comes out in 2016.

That's the problem. We won't get a new Batman film for almost a decade. 2018 is probably being generic. By that point Affleck will be way too old to play Batman...I doubt they're going to do a 50 year old Batman movie...and they'll just have to recast again. WB has horrible planning.

Kids need to grow up seeing Batman. The fact that the last Batman movie was in 2012 and the next one won't be till god knows when is disturbing.

NinjaPug 01-19-2014 01:26 PM

They just finished a trilogy of Batman films. They dont need to throw a new one out every two years. I'm glad there will be 4 years between movies with Batman so it gives us time between Nolan's version and Snyder's version.

I like the way they're handling Batman now. They're bringing a new interpretation of the character into a movie where they don't have to re-tell his origin story. From there they can spin this Batman off into solo films if they want to.

Mr._Mutant_Man 01-25-2014 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1197255)
30 year olds don't care about movies. Gotcha.

Except Logan's Run, so they can be reminded that their time is up. :D

Leo656 01-25-2014 10:02 AM

An article on the Superman homepage says that an unnamed source allegedly working in the art dept. on the film, who was either fired or quit due to the delay, leaked a bunch of potential spoilers from the movie.

Quoted from http://supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=14497

Spoiler:

- The villians are Lex Luthor and Metallo.
- Batman forms a UN type deal to stop Superman from destroying another city.
- Aquaman is in it, but not called Aquaman. He's there because the world engine in the ocean did something to the fish.
- Wonder Woman poses as a Wayne Enterprises investor to retrieve an item that belongs to her people.
- Lex Luthor is in the shadows a lot, a manipulator. Not much face time with Superman.
- Robin betrayed Batman at some point, leading to a falling out between them.
- The Batcave was super cool looking, and the mobile looked similar to Burton's.
- Lois is investigating Lex.
- Metallo "kills" Clark.
- The Daily Planet is bought by Lex Luthor for PR purposes.
- At the end Superman is living in exile, and the Justice League is a government-approved superhero team.



I can buy pretty much all of that. It all fits perfectly with what we already knew and what we were supposing, for better or worse. Obviously, take things with a mountain of salt, but it all seems highly plausible. Could have been from an early version of the script, of course, or if it is all accurate they may very well change a lot of it now, but it gives us a good idea of where things are probably headed.

In another article on the site, Kevin Smith continues to swear up and down that Affleck as Batman is going to be amazing, especially the suit, which he describes as "like nothing they've ever done on film so far" and "The Batman costume you've always wanted to see." I'm intrigued.

Also, apparently the new Wonder Woman signed a 3-picture deal, for Superman/Batman, a WW solo film, and Justice League. Man, her liver may just fail from all the steroids she's going to have to take to look anything like Diana for that kind of duration. Seriously, lady, eat a f*cking sandwich.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 01-25-2014 10:41 AM

Sounds good Leo656. Sounds like a good way to add Wonder Woman into this movie, so she (hopefully) won't feel out of place.

Leo656 01-25-2014 10:48 AM

Still feels kinda "crammed", but there's also a persistent rumor that they're actually shooting Superman/Batman and Justice League simultaneously, so who knows?

CyberCubed 01-25-2014 12:29 PM

Superman living in exile feels like a rehash of Batman abandoning Gotham in the Nolan trilogy between the second and third movie. Meh.

Also did they confirm Nightwing since they mentioned Robin and Batman had a falling out? Don't see why that would be in the movie unless Nightwing appeared.

Leo656 01-25-2014 12:53 PM

Again, all just rumors, so nothing at all is "confirmed". Just "likely to be true based on what we already know". But yeah, I'm puzzled by the Robin bit.

Also, by the Metallo/Clark Kent thing. It seems like Snyder and Co. really, really hate the idea of Superman having a secret identity and are trying to avoid using it as much as possible. We get it, guys. His disguise is "quaint" and some people find it flat-out corny. Whatever. It's also integral to the mythology, and while I understood downplaying it for story purposes in MoS, I was looking forward to it being expanded on in future films.

Just like eliminating the red trunks, downplaying his Clark persona so much seems way too much like pandering to the internet geeks. We'll see how it turns out in the end, I guess.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 01-25-2014 12:58 PM

I like the idea of the Batmobile design, and also Metallo. Seems good so far, nothing has really made me go "That's a bad move, i don't like that."

Leo656 01-25-2014 01:05 PM

Superman consistently being portrayed as less-than-heroic within the context of his own damn movie series is puzzling as hell, you gotta admit that.

I don't care what anyone says about "Superman Returns". That scene on the baseball field where a crowd of people erupt into thunderous applause for the triumphant hero? More of THAT, please. That's the kind of feeling Superman and his films are supposed to evoke. Not him being viewed as a dangerous menace and "going off into exile because darn it, the world just doesn't understand him."

He's not a dark character. He's not a maudlin or conflicted character. He's "Earth's Greatest Hero". Period. I liked MoS. I'm cautiously optimistic for the new movie(s). But more and more, I'm wondering if these people even "get it".

The Stryker 01-25-2014 04:41 PM

More Mopey Superman.

Great.

blindturtle02 01-25-2014 04:56 PM

Well, it's Nolan's spin on Superman and all that. Of course he's gonna be mopy! Ya know, that's a nice nickname for him.

Metallo huh? He's always been one of my favorite bad guys, so looking forward to him being in the film. I liked MOS so I'm hoping I'll enjoy the next one. Do we know if Lex is going to be in it? I hope it's not campy loony Lexie again. The sinister businessman persona hiding behind a benevolent facade is more interesting.

Leo656 01-25-2014 08:51 PM

I'm willing to bet Lex will be similar to how he was portrayed in the John Byrne-era comics. The best thing about MoS was it was very close to the comic books, even in some fairly obscure ways (like having Rondors on Krypton and one of Krypton's moons being blown up).

I just want more "fun" in the Superman film franchise. MoS does get better the more you watch it, and it's a great film on a technical level, but I'll never forget the contrast in the audience's attitude on opening night between Superman Returns and MoS, no matter people's opinions on either film nowadays. With "Returns", as soon as it ended there was an enthusiastic ovation from the entire theater (they popped huge for the plane rescue scene, too). With MoS, everyone just got up and walked out looking really angry, and only like two people besides me and my wife stayed to see if there was anything after the credits. It was like they couldn't wait to leave.

Hindsight notwithstanding, people's initial gut reactions to each movie couldn't have been more different. They seemed to feel like MoS was an ordeal. At least nobody yelled out "That sucked!", like they did at the "Hulk" opener. :lol: (It didn't, but that movie's a whole other debate)


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