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Xav 02-08-2014 09:51 PM

Casey's and Raphael's first meeting
 
It seems that most of the universes have Casey and Raphael meet in a similar fashion. Which one do you think handled it the best? Mind you I didn't include the Fred Wolf series, because he met all the Turtles at the same time.

Shred87 02-08-2014 09:54 PM

Tough to knock the original so i have to go with mirage

RaphAndDonnie 02-08-2014 10:16 PM

As I haven't read Mirage it's a tough choice between the first film, 2k3 toon, Nick toon and IDW comics for me. I really like how they met in IDW, Raph coming in to save Casey from his dad and all so I guess I'll go with it. I do like how they met in the first film, 2k3 and the Nick toon as well.

MsMarvelDuckie 02-08-2014 10:27 PM

Oooh, that's a toughie. I had to vote for the 1990 movie, simply because It's the one that I saw first, and it's always had a soft spot in my heart. But honestly, I loved all of them almost equally, except for the Mirage one, which I've never seen. If there was an "other" option, I'd go with that!

Powder 02-08-2014 11:11 PM

First film for suuuuuure.

CyberCubed 02-08-2014 11:21 PM

Anything but the IDW one. Raph walking in on Casey getting beaten by his Dad? WTF. (And yes, I know who Casey's Dad eventually turns out to be, but back then we didn't know that)

I guess I'll go with the first movie due to the humor

MsMarvelDuckie 02-08-2014 11:30 PM

I really liked that one- it showed Raph's protective side, and how much he hates bullying. Looking back, I wonder now if it had something to do with his past life in Japan, or his encounter with Hob before they mutated. But having Casey's dad end up being Hun made it even better. Now Hun has a real reason to come after them, and especially Raph.

Garreth 02-08-2014 11:33 PM

Hey, Bogey... who died and made you referee? You did your job, now get out of here and let me do mine, all right? These JV low lifes need to be taught a lesson.

I say the movie too. Casey Jones was boss in it!

NinjaMan 02-08-2014 11:39 PM

Nick version for me.

TheBlueTurtle1 02-09-2014 02:29 AM

Mirage! and the movie a close second.

Shark_Blade 02-09-2014 03:30 AM

The title was not in full view when I'm at the forum menu so I thought it says "Casey and Raph's first kiss".... eek.

So anyway, back on topic. Mm, sure I like the movie version but I gotta go with Nick cause I like that Raph over other iterations. Nick Casey's fighting scene and roller skates are pretty cool too, so much above the rest (yes I've seen it all). :)

DarkLightDragon 02-09-2014 07:57 AM

For me, first movie for the snappy dialogue and IDW for the circumstance to meet.

Candy Kappa 02-09-2014 08:42 AM

Mirage for me, second by the 1990 movie and third Nick cartoon.

turtlefanforever 02-09-2014 01:16 PM

Yeah OT is missing
 
But anything but nick and idw

Candy Kappa 02-09-2014 01:19 PM

FW doesn't count as it differs from the others

Shark_Blade 02-09-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1209918)
FW doesn't count as it differs from the others

Yeah it's not exactly Raph/Casey meeting but all turtles/Casey meeting.

But still that Casey was so psychotic and badass I love it. :tlol:

thebrownranger 02-09-2014 06:52 PM

It's a tough one for me between the Mirage and 1990 encounter, but' I'd have to give it to the first film. Loved Raph's anger and frustration in his voice chasing after Casey while rolling over the taxi cab. So I guess Mirage would go second for me then.

JTH 02-09-2014 07:02 PM

I loved the Nick version, but being it was played off exactly how the first movie went, I got to go with the original.

Though I admit, that powerbomb Nick Raph gave Casey onto that car hood was sick.

That would've made Kevin Nash proud. :lol:

Slade 02-11-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Garreth (Post 1209672)
Hey, Bogey... who died and made you referee? You did your job, now get out of here and let me do mine, all right? These JV low lifes need to be taught a lesson.

Not like that they don't. Not from you.

Movie all the way!

NinjaPug 02-11-2014 07:39 PM

Definitely the 1990 film

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1209916)
But anything but nick and idw

I thought you didn't watch the Nick show?

turtlefanforever 02-11-2014 11:30 PM

You in love with me?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1211193)
Definitely the 1990 film



I thought you didn't watch the Nick show?

I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo :( that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that. :tcool:

Leo656 02-11-2014 11:43 PM

Nobody unbiased would say it was COMPLETE crap. There's a lot off about it but there's a lot it does right. Even at its weakest it's not, like, outwardly offensive.

I can see someone not liking it enough to want to watch it often or at all, but "It's not the show I want" and "It's crap" aren't the same thing at all. It's definitely not the TMNT show I want to see, but it's definitely not "crap", either. As its own thing, it's pretty good. It's not really all of what I want to see, but I'm not entirely the audience.

I also voted for the 1990 film, because of the vocal delivery and the terrific performance of Elias Koteas. You could almost believe their exchange wasn't scripted, it was so natural. And the way they met really helped set the stage for strong character arcs for both of them over the rest of the film, both individually and how they came to play off of each other. Some great stuff going on there.

BabyTurtles 02-12-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1211292)
I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo :( that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that. :tcool:

I think he was implying that if you haven't seen the Nick version how can you say it was bad.

that's all :) I don't think he was trying to sound mean or anything.

...hmm my favorite....I like the 2003 and Nick! ^_^ oh and the first movie~
can't decide....

turtlefanforever 02-12-2014 02:05 AM

Not biased just honest
 
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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1211297)
Nobody unbiased would say it was COMPLETE crap. There's a lot off about it but there's a lot it does right. Even at its weakest it's not, like, outwardly offensive.

I can see someone not liking it enough to want to watch it often or at all, but "It's not the show I want" and "It's crap" aren't the same thing at all. It's definitely not the TMNT show I want to see, but it's definitely not "crap", either. As its own thing, it's pretty good. It's not really all of what I want to see, but I'm not entirely the audience.

I also voted for the 1990 film, because of the vocal delivery and the terrific performance of Elias Koteas. You could almost believe their exchange wasn't scripted, it was so natural. And the way they met really helped set the stage for strong character arcs for both of them over the rest of the film, both individually and how they came to play off of each other. Some great stuff going on there.

I get what your saying, but its still complete crap. That being said the 1990 film exchange was great. And that cricket line they put in there specifically because it was so hard to get out the sounds of crickets in the background was pure genious.

Refractive Reflections 02-12-2014 03:14 AM

The Nick exchange was TOO similar to the 4Kids Exchange
 
The Nick exchange seemed to parallel too closely to the 4Kids exchange about how Raph was trying to calm Casey Jones down after beating up a few muggers, and in both universes, just before their first interaction both episodes expose Raph's temper from a practice fight with the other Turtles.

When I watched both episodes again (4Kids' "Meet Casey Jones" and Nick's "The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones")... yeah... :ohwell: The scenes could easily be interchangeable with each other.

Kurai 02-12-2014 03:19 AM

I have to go with IDW. The characters instantly bonded as soon as they met, whereas other versions have them fight before becoming friends. (I haven't read Mirage Raphael #1 or seen the episode of the Nick show where they meet yet, so I can't comment on those yet)

NinjaPug 02-12-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1211292)
I'm starting to thing you have a thing for me buddy. Sadly for you I'm not single. Boo hoo :( that being said, I do not watch it. I did at one point. I gave it a chance as to have no bias. I am very open minded, it was complete crap though. So that's that. :tcool:

If you haven't seen the episode then how can you say "definitely not Nick"?

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1211365)
The Nick exchange seemed to parallel too closely to the 4Kids exchange about how Raph was trying to calm Casey Jones down after beating up a few muggers, and in both universes, just before their first interaction both episodes expose Raph's temper from a practice fight with the other Turtles.

When I watched both episodes again (4Kids' "Meet Casey Jones" and Nick's "The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones")... yeah... :ohwell: The scenes could easily be interchangeable with each other.

That's because both episodes follow the original Casey Jones intro in the Mirage Raphael one shot.

BubblyShell22 02-12-2014 09:46 AM

I voted for the Nick version because I think that Casey Jones is awesome. However, I'll always love the 1990 movie version because of the dialogue.

"Cricket? I don't know no cricket. You gotta know what a crumpet is to know what cricket is."

Refractive Reflections 02-12-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1211386)
That's because both episodes follow the original Casey Jones intro in the Mirage Raphael one shot.

Meh **shrug**... It would have been nice to have a little variation like the 1990 movie and IDW did, considering how notable their first interaction is in developing a lifelong friendship. Oh well...:ohwell:

DonnyMac 02-12-2014 09:34 PM

I'm gonna go with the 1990 movie all the way

pferreira 02-13-2014 09:16 AM

The 1990 movie as that's the one I'm most familiar with.

pannoni1 02-13-2014 09:18 AM

The hockey penalties leading up to Raph's reference is clearly one of the most outstanding introductions in TMNT history. Then comes the baseball bat scene that eventually gives Casey his superiority leaving Raph quite overwhelmed as he tries to explain what happened to Splinter. But then which was second is a tough call, but I'd lead towards Mirage for its classic edginess, followed by the Nick version.

discordiatookie 02-13-2014 05:27 PM

I love the Mirage intro, but there's just something special in seeing the two of them duke it out on the big screen in the first film. I dunno if it's Casey's mask or Raph's trench coat, I absolutely love that scene.

Warhorse 02-15-2014 11:33 PM

You know, in 2k3, Meet Casey Jones wasn't exactly the first time Raphael met Casey. Remember the episode where they flashback to when they tried to help a very young Casey Jones face his bullies? And they didn't even realize it.

But, I'm definitely going with the 1990 movie. That was pure classic!

turtlefanforever 02-16-2014 12:38 AM

Screw it I'm throwing OT in there
 
It's all of them meeting, and his crazy Law breaker slogan and attacks.

billbot85 02-22-2014 11:50 PM

It would have to be the 1990 movie for me. "Cricket?! Nobody understands cricket!" The whole exchange was just priceless, even leading up to Raph flipping over the cab and yelling "DAAAAMN!!" One of my favorite scenes from the film.

Although I do really like the Mirage version, too. Comes in as a close second for me.

Warhorse 02-23-2014 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by billbot85 (Post 1217143)
It would have to be the 1990 movie for me. "Cricket?! Nobody understands cricket!" The whole exchange was just priceless, even leading up to Raph flipping over the cab and yelling "DAAAAMN!!" One of my favorite scenes from the film.

Although I do really like the Mirage version, too. Comes in as a close second for me.

I also loved it how in that same scene, the tenant in the cab goes "What the heck was that?" and it was the dude who was doing the stunts and the voice work for Raph. Funny stuff there.


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