Official Episode Discussion: S2 #9 "The Kraang Conspiracy"
 

Okay, so the episodes are being shown out of order. Again....

This week, it looks like April's been getting a case of sewer/cabin fever, and is ready to explore the city at night Ninja Style.

It's probably going to take some serious convincing, considering Master Splinter wouldn't let the boys take one step out of the sewers until they were fifteen. April may not be Splinter's daughter, but that doesn't mean he's not going to let his overprotective side kick in high gear.

So, probably with the help and promise from the boys to keep an eye on her, April finally gets to have a taste of a real rooftop run. Not exactly the easy 'fun' training that the boys insist it is. But she'll survive..

Now we finally have the opportunity to see April and her little mind-reading/psychic radar thing in action. We've seen her tweak out when the Foot entered the lair last week, and we've also seen her communicating with the Kraang through Donatello's unusual glowing orb. This week, we should be getting another hint at April's past. is she part Kraang? Maybe... Could she be a test-tube hybrid crystal baby a la Mirage vol. 4? Anything's possible.

Hopefully we'll actually get some of our little plot holes taken care of, not to mention some items that haven't been touched upon in WEEKS... We still don't know about Leo's reaction to Karai being Splinter's daughter, we haven't seen April's Bat-Daddy in months, and now she's hearing more and more weird stuff.


I am seriously not used to this being on Sundays... but we'll be open!


Stay tuned!

I thought it was a good episode, Plenty of action and, We all saw it coming when it was revealed that.
It was cool seeing April being in on the action, Even if she tried to keep up with them.

I am so sorry, everyone... we had a bit of a snafu here, and I wasn't able to get on... :( I'll clean up the threads and get it organized.

Detailed info, please. I'm mainly interested in April Derp.

I thought the episode was awesome! Them sneaking through the Kraang HQ and fighting the giant April clone. Good stuff. I liked it more than last weeks episode.

I thought it was kinda boring myself... even though they finally explained why Aprils so important to the Kraang... I can't believe they kidnapped her mom thats kinda freaky!!! And if shes only half human does what does that mean about her parents? Are they both human or only Kirby?

I guess next time unlock it midnight Saturday night, or let someone else do it? Although, honestly, we can just wait.

Is it Kurtzen or Kurtzman? I hate to write the blog post spelling it wrong.

its Kurtzman.

I hated this episode.


I'm sorry, but the humor was shown WAY too much in this episode. I swear, the humor is getting stupider and stupider...

I feel that this is one episode that's difficult to judge at this moment based upon what was revealed, given that April being not fully human has been unknown until today. April's mom looked like a nice human blonde that looked pretty human, but I feel that Kirby likely made a crucial mistake shortly before pregnancy that lead to some Dimension X DNA in April's body. It's probably a miniscule amount that only leads to minor changes, but enough to show that this April is unlike any other seen. That said, there was some good OT-inspired April in terms of the "wait for me, I'm not missing out on this action" along with another DID moment. That said, there was a lot of great humor, from the April clone laughing in that dark room to all of the April clones freed to of course April Dirt. It felt a bit too over the top in its presenting, but there was still some decent battle action, and Kurtzman driving the commercial van was pretty cool, preceded by the famous escape cry "Let's make Turtle Tracks!" There was a cool Raph moment during the battle too.

Overall: 7/10

Rather dull episode, but I really liked Kurtzman from what we saw of him. April derp was also nice but it got less than 5 minutes if screentime.

Other than April's origin this was just a run of the mill Kraang episode.

Didn't think the episode was all that good and was wierd but had some good moments in it.


Finally finding out about April and her Physic powers so she's half human half alien Kraang mutant.
April's Mum was kidnapped and expermented on before April was born, wow! that's kind of dark for a kids show but still don't no what happened to April's Mum though (I'm wondering she walked out on her family)
Raph protecting Mikey and saving April but annoyed me that Donny wanted to save her and April didn't like that it was Raph come to save her, selfish or what.
The Turtles and April in the Eelevator with the awkward music
Donny being sassy


Some bad moments

I like Mikey but he was insensitive when he said welcome to the family at the end.
April was being selfish and ignoring Leo when he asked her to stay behind, it was clear she wasn't ready for a mission yet.
So many April clones and April Derp was OTT

This episode was just too routine. It was the same exact Kraang stuff we've seen a million times before and Kurtzman was very underused.

I don't get why they brought TCRI back. How many times do we need to see the Turtles infiltrate the same place?

Not really sure how I feel about this episode right now. I'm still sort of scratching my head over the reveal, and some parts felt really slow to me. Kurtzman was cool, but he just sort of disappeared midway into the episode until the end. Maybe I'll have to re-watch this one to get a better opinion, but right now I can't help but feel a little disappointed.

Wow. I think I'm the only one who liked it

It was the rehashed Kraang scenes and lack of screentime for Kurtzman and April derp.

It answered the questions we wanted, but everything else lagged a bit, and as I stated in the other thread, I was bummed with the ending. Saw it coming, but didn't really want it to be that way.

Plus it definitely explains why Donnie was completely out of it in Good, Bad, Casey. Everybody took shots at him in this episode, plus I'm sure they're going to be make him just as upset about the news as April.

I'm just waiting for the episode where Donnie and Casey will have to work together now, without him now trying to blow April's secret.

Overall, It's not a Top 5 episode to me, I have it 6 out of the 9.

The part with Donnie was her being upset with herself for not being as experienced as they are and always needing help.

The part with Raph was, IMO, the fact that Raph keep razzing her for being useless and slowing them down throughout the episode... and here he is, rescuing her, further proving that she is useless and needed to be rescued.

Too soon Mikey. Too soon :lol:

Less April Derp the better. And there really wasn't much Kurtzman can do. If he went with them on the mission, he would gotten in the way.

I loved this episode!!!! :tgrin:

April's a mutant!!!!

Psychic blasts!!!!!

Kraang Prime!!!!

And...

TCRI IS BACK!!!!!!

:tgrin:

Kurtzman seemed like a cool character too. I wonder how involved he'll be in future episodes...

Did anybody else catch the scream from mrs. Campbell? :tlol:

"This amuses Kraang"... Further shows how sick the Kraang are...

April DERP was hilarious! And kudos to Mae Whitman with that evil April voice.

Overall an awesome start to the revived Kraang storyline! :tsmile:

Good episode. I think there is more to Kurtzman than meets the eye. Reminds me of Kolchak the Nightstalker.

eeeh....I didn't care for this episode at all...

April was getting on my nerves.....she wanted to be part of the team but she was obviously in the way.....and then she gets kidnapped....

and she not wanting to be saved by Donnie? even though she clearly needed it.

that said the Donnie and April got on my last nerves......especially when Donnie shoved Raph outta the way and hugged her......ugh.... can your crush be any more subtle???

Mikey got a good laugh outta me though when he said telepathetic XD heh heh.
and his "welcome to the family" :D too soon....but hey he's a glass half full kinda guy.

not that excited for psychic April...seems kinda...mary sueish to me.

one last thing...when April complained about Raph saving her...I don't know that rubbed me the wrong way.......like what? you wanted Donnie to save you again or something?

oh wait....April derp......*shivers*....I just wanted it to get the heck away from Mikey......ugh...

sorry for being negative...but those are my thoughts....

that episode had a lot going on, I'm not quite sure what to think of it yet. It wasn't bad at all, but not in the top three either, IMO. Nice to get some answers to Aprils past and the connection with the kraang, and I like it didn't reveal too much. I'm really puzzled about Kurtzman - I know many have guessed that he is Bishop, but I definitely got more of a kraang-vibe from him, and we now know that they're really good at making clones

Derp derp derp!
 

I liked the episode. Yup, we all saw the mutant bit coming though. Well at least she isn't a hideously deformed creature of superhuman size and strength kind of mutant. Wait, that's a toxic avenger/crusader. You know what I mean. She's more of an X-Men kind of mutant. I like the fact that she's not some monster hiding under an April façade, so to speak. I don't think so at present, anyway. She's just got the shining, is all.

Loved the action sceens and Kirtzmen was great. I want to see more of this guy. And April Derp? Oh yes, she ruled. I wonder if we'll see another Derp eventually. She was so loveable. "April love giving hugs!," and all that. At least that's what I think she said in the middle of the 3rd act. Anybody else hear that?

Great to see Kraang Prime again and I'm seriously wondering if we'll see April's dear sweet mommy some time down the line. They experimented on her, huh? Well what in the name of peperoni and extra cheese did they do to her? I think she's still around, but that's just me. I do wish they'd give us more info on what the Kraang are up to. That's about the only negative thing I could come up with.

I liked it...

This one was on the "meh" side. Not crazy about half-alien April. It'll take some getting used to. Ms. Campbell is awesome to me.

For the toy collectors, was I the only one who the Water Tower and Billboard stood out to? In the beginning part...

Well IGN liked it, wow! 8.6 I thought it be lower.

No review yet but says 8.6 on the first page.

http://uk.ign.com/tv/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2012

Anybody notice the billboard at the start of the ep (when they were running on the rooftop) that said Jonesy Kitty Pest Control with the phone number of 555 - BYE Mice??? Wonder if that's what Casey's dad does for a living?

So the Kraang have been on earth for thousands of years mutating things. So are they responsible for the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Chupacabra, Jersey Devil, ect?

"Derp! Derp! April give hug!" :lol:

I didn't really like this episode. Just like "Follow the Leader", there was nothing terrible about it, but it just seemed so dull. April's backstory stuff was interesting, but we still don't know much about her. There was some stuff I like, like April being saved by someone else than Donnie. April herself annoyed me for some reason, but all the clones were cool, especially the fight scene with them. April Derp was REALLY creepy, especially the smiling "normal" April head. I swear, if we get an April Derp action figure before Karai...

Didn't like this episode....

Felt very routine and trivial in the actual pacing and plot but everything else was decent. Liked the backstory on the Kraang and Kurtzman but not sure how to feel about April being part-alien!

There was no major development aside from the ending and the rest of the episode just wasn't all that interesting to me....they even recycled TCRI with absolutely no new designs. That sucked. The whole Derp and Cloned April idea was EXTREMELY unnecessary and lame, another random mutant of the week!

'The Kraang Conspiracy' - (5.5/10)

Things I forgot
 

Oh yeah, Raph's Girl, I can see them responsible for Nessie Wessie! haha Now that you mentioned Jersey Devil, I can't get Black Betty from TMNT 2007 out of my head.

Forgot to mention that I liked the look into how the Kraang droids are recharged. And it'd make sense that TCRI would be rebuilt. They're the Kraang. I bet they have quite a bit of money stashed away in multiple accounts. It's undoubtedly accumulated over the years. And they can probably program droids or Footbots to work around the clock if they want. Idk. TCRI might get a few complaints from people having trouble sleeping at night, but that's about it. There are only like 20 people living in NYC anyway, so I doubt it bothers many. hehe Glad to see the TCRI building up and running again. Now can we please see the technodrome a second time? I miss giant floating shippyship. Well it's kinda sunk right now, but there you go.

I really thought this episode was going to be suspenseful but it ended up being too predictable. The TCRI building was rebuilt somehow with no explanation. I was extremely annoyed with April being rude to the turtles for saving her, especially Donnie. When Raph tries to save her, she was so unbearable to hear, I just wanted too slap her. He might as well have said, "Oh, I didn't know you wanted to be drilled in the head. Maybe it'll be a good improvement for ya!". And seeing all the April clones really felt unnecessary. They were no threat to the turtles with the exception of the one that fought them at the elevator. And April Derp........no comment. Probably the biggest turn-off for me was the big secret at the end. April is a half-human, half-mutant. I kinda saw this coming but I was hoping I'd be proven wrong. The only thing I liked was Kurtzman. Not going lie though, I thought near the end of the episode, he was going to be revealed as a Kraang, lol. Overall, I thought this was a disappointing episode. Probably the first episode of the season, I did not like.

Thirteen Monsters reprise? I was just wondering how Max Winters could fit into the show somehow, if they were to use him.

Makes perfect sense to me...

Heck, that water creature from Dimension X fits the Loch Ness monster to a tee...

What I found creepy in this episode is that April was essentially forced into those white long johns before she was experimented on.

April Derp was as creepy and disgusting as I thought it would be. I'm glad she didn't last that long, unless they have more rejects in that reject bin.

Still the news about April being a mutant half human/half alien appears to be shocking and somewhat devastating to all parties particularly April and Donnie.

This doesn't entirely rule out the theory that April is a neutrino. Well it does and it doesn't. The Neutrino's were after all a humanoid race from Dimention X. And the Neutrino's do have psychic powers as babies namely Telekinetic powers.


So maybe the Kraang have been experimenting with creating beings that carry both humana and dimention x DNA. And April is the only one who is the perfect specimen of what they are trying to create.

I personally loved it. My only problem was that they really expected us to buy that whole "Kraang have been Earth since ancient times" thing pretty quick, because it was pretty darn brief. Other than that, I dont see why people think it's a recycled episode. It gave us the answers we wanted, it progressed the story, and now the 1st season's finale make sense!

I don't get why people didn't like this episode that much...

Overall I liked this episode. It had a good amount of action and a great twist at the end (even though we all kinda saw it coming). Plus, April Derp was hilarious and creepy as hell at the same time. Not as good as last week's episode, but I enjoyed it. :tgrin:

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspo...35-kraang.html My thoughts, although I didn't have that many besides 'glad that April Derp died same ep'.

I liked the episode, To me it was way better than the squirrel ep. or the one where Mikey had turtle acne (which most people love for some reason).
I don't have a problem with April being part alien either as long as a brain doesn't pop out of her stomach (Gee I didn't know that was there Drerrr).
I was surprised at how light hearted the parts where were they killed multiple April clones was. But I didn't mind.
Was glad to see some Raph / April interaction. A lot of people didn't like how April Said something to the effect of " O great being rescued by Raph, I'll never live this down". But no one mentioned Raphs Cool and kinda nice reply that "We all have days like that". :tgrin: