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Shredder37 03-03-2014 06:34 PM

2003 series fan
 
I grew up during the 80's but I am huge fan of 03 series over vintage ... please don't strike me down LOL

CyberCubed 03-03-2014 07:06 PM

The 2k3 series is critically acclaimed so you have nothing to worry about. Head over to the 4kids section to discuss the cartoon.

Shredder37 03-03-2014 07:22 PM

cool I love that cartoon

LeotheLateBloomer 03-03-2014 10:31 PM

Same here, it's still my favorite incarnation.

CowabungaMikey 03-04-2014 04:01 AM

It's really good indeed! They stay really true to the grim comic series.

rickwj324 03-04-2014 08:00 AM

I soooooooooooo want this series (complete) on dvd!! I truly hope Viacom releases it soon, or farms it out to a company like Shout Factory. I've only seen a handful of episodes and really liked what I saw.

ABrown 03-04-2014 08:17 AM

The 4Kids TMNT series is easily one of my favorite cartoons of all time. Better than the Nickelodeon series in every way.

TheSkeletonMan939 03-04-2014 08:23 AM

I have to admit, many episodes of this series fall flat, (most of the "fillers") but the better episodes are far and away more amazing than anything the Nick cartoon has to offer.

FoxBoxKid 03-04-2014 10:03 AM

I grew up on the 4Kids show, and even though I opine that the IDW comics and the Nick show are of a slightly higher caliber, the 4Kids Turtles will always be "my Turtles."

CyberCubed 03-04-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1222363)
I have to admit, many episodes of this series fall flat, (most of the "fillers") but the better episodes are far and away more amazing than anything the Nick cartoon has to offer.

Some of the fillers can be dull, but the weakest episodes of the Nick show aren't any better so it evens out.

4kids problem was not being allowed to use characters like Slash or Mutagen man so we were stuck with characters like Garbageman and Touch and Go.

ABrown 03-04-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222404)
4kids problem was not being allowed to use characters like Slash or Mutagen man so we were stuck with characters like Garbageman and Touch and Go.

Why would they be able to use Krang, but not Slash?

CyberCubed 03-04-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1222421)
Why would they be able to use Krang, but not Slash?

Krang didn't appear till Turtles Forever when PL lifted the ban on OT characters.

What I mean is Slash could have appeared in Season 4. Bishop could have created a clone of the Turtles and he would wind up being Slash. Same with Mutagen Man who would fit into the mutant outbreak story of Season 4.

Technogeek29 03-04-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222404)
Some of the fillers can be dull, but the weakest episodes of the Nick show aren't any better so it evens out.

4kids problem was not being allowed to use characters like Slash or Mutagen man so we were stuck with characters like Garbageman and Touch and Go.

They could've been interesting but nothing was done with the characters besides being ongoing antagonist to 2k3 Mikey.

AT-Man 03-04-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222533)
Bishop could have created a clone of the Turtles and he would wind up being Slash.

DAMN how much that would have sucked!!!

Jester 03-04-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222533)
Krang didn't appear till Turtles Forever when PL lifted the ban on OT characters.

There was also the throw away gag utrom Krang...

Redeemer 03-04-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1222678)
There was also the throw away gag utrom Krang...

lol I remember him

Leofan26 03-04-2014 11:44 PM

That's great, I'm a major 2003 series fan myself. 2012 series is my second favorite, I just loved every thing about this series and thought they did a really good job with spreading out character arcs and some of the villains. Last season wasn't the best though, matter of fact it's my least favorite but other than that :)

LeotheLateBloomer 03-05-2014 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222404)

4kids problem was not being allowed to use characters like Slash or Mutagen man so we were stuck with characters like Garbageman and Touch and Go.

This show is based on the original Mirage comics so the lack of OT characters was not the show's problem. Mutagen Man wasn't even a memorable villian until 2k12. And the idea of Touch and Go was very creative.

Xav 03-05-2014 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1222404)
4kids problem was not being allowed to use characters like Slash or Mutagen man so we were stuck with characters like Garbageman and Touch and Go.

I don't think they weren't allowed to use the characters, I think I had to do more with the people behind the show being Mirage fans. Hell Peter Laird apparently loved the concept of Mutagen Man. In fact both he and Slash were going to appear in the proposed "Ultimate TMNT" show.

Also why would you want Mutagen Man on the show? As you yourself said:
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 561672)
And why Mutagen Man? He was only in 1 episode of the old show and is far from a popular character. Random.


turtlefanforever 03-06-2014 10:51 AM

agreed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1222362)
The 4Kids TMNT series is easily one of my favorite cartoons of all time. Better than the Nickelodeon series in every way.

agreed, I can't really rule it out against the original series because of its significance to me but I just love 2k3 so much, whats everyones fav season?

TheSkeletonMan939 03-06-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1223534)
agreed, I can't really rule it out against the original series because of its significance to me but I just love 2k3 so much, whats everyones fav season?

Definitely season three. It had a season-wide story arc that never grew boring, as well as producing some of the best episodes the show had. It also was an excellent lead-in for Leo's tough time in season four.

turtlefanforever 03-06-2014 02:23 PM

really?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1223594)
Definitely season three. It had a season-wide story arc that never grew boring, as well as producing some of the best episodes the show had. It also was an excellent lead-in for Leo's tough time in season four.

I have to go 5, I was just so sucked into the tribunal I dedicated so much time to it, I used to talk non stop pretty much, trying to get everyone to watch it.

ABrown 03-06-2014 02:45 PM

The third season has gotta be my favorite. The season had an amazing start with the alien invasion. A really cool new villian, Agent Bishop, was introduced. Plus we got to see how cool of a villain Oroku Saki, not the Shredder, could be. And the season ended with an edge-of-your-seat finale.

CyberCubed 03-06-2014 07:03 PM

IMO:

Season 3 > Season 1 > Season 4 > Season 2 > Season 5 > Season 6 > Season 7.

tmntpower1988 03-06-2014 08:19 PM

Season 3 is the best. I liked season 5 too with the Tengu Shredder thought he was badass. The 2k3 series is epic, it's definately in the top 3 of my favorite cartoons along with Batman The Animated Series and Dragonball Z. It deserves a proper DVD release. I might rewatch the whole series again.

turtlefanforever 03-07-2014 12:54 AM

well
 
if you have the right software you can just download all the episodes to your computer and then burn them onto discs, not saying I condone this or telling you to but there are some of very high quality on the internet, 'tmntuploader' has every episode in really good quality on youtube even. but again I state I am not telling you to do this. Just floating it out there, also the best conversion software if you're converting them to avi. is convertxtodvd its like $40 but its completely worth it, it converts pretty much anything to a dvd in really good quality, videos you get off the net, ones on your computer, home movies, ect.

Also all of you really love 3 that much? I just got sucked into ninja tribunal too much I guess.

nimajneb 03-07-2014 02:58 AM

Loved the 2k3 series, I think being in my late teens when it started meant I loved both the adult themes and the kids themes within the show.
I'm rewatching the 2k3 series at the moment along with reading the IDW reprints of the Mirage run and i'm now picking up the mirage references and episodes such as the Donny micro episode.
Its really making me appreciate and love the series more.
I liked the turtle tribunal too, never got bored of it at all but I think I like the NY based eps the most i think.

I loved the original series as a kid but I do find it a little difficult to watch now, although my wife loves it so we do watch it often. The Nick series has won her over too, she loves it as much as i do! But she struggles with the 2k3 series, preferring the comedy of the OT and nick tmnt.

tmntpower1988 03-07-2014 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1223826)
if you have the right software you can just download all the episodes to your computer and then burn them onto discs, not saying I condone this or telling you to but there are some of very high quality on the internet, 'tmntuploader' has every episode in really good quality on youtube even. but again I state I am not telling you to do this. Just floating it out there, also the best conversion software if you're converting them to avi. is convertxtodvd its like $40 but its completely worth it, it converts pretty much anything to a dvd in really good quality, videos you get off the net, ones on your computer, home movies, ect.

Also all of you really love 3 that much? I just got sucked into ninja tribunal too much I guess.

I own all the episodes on DVD. Season 1, 2, 5 and 6 I ordered from USA. Had to get Season 3, 4 and 7 from Australia. I downloaded the full series as well and burned them to DVD.

It was this video that inspired me to watch the 2k3 series. I remember watching it thinking "This Shredder makes the OT Shredder look like a pussy".



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Originally Posted by nimajneb (Post 1223858)
I loved the original series as a kid but I do find it a little difficult to watch now, although my wife loves it so we do watch it often. The Nick series has won her over too, she loves it as much as i do! But she struggles with the 2k3 series, preferring the comedy of the OT and nick tmnt.

I don't know why people think the comedy in the 2k3 series sucks. I actually laughed a few times when watching some episodes. Yes the comedy in the OT and Nick series is better but tbh I would rather have a more darker serious tone with less comedy, that's why 2k3 appeals to me the most.

turtlefanforever 03-07-2014 10:15 AM

Yeah i know
 
2k3 shredder is an absolute badass! and I liked the comedy in this series as well and much prefer a darker tone, it really clicked with me. I hate that some of the ever darker episodes were cut

ABrown 03-07-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tmntpower1988 (Post 1223747)
It deserves a proper DVD release. I might rewatch the whole series again.

I've often wondered how a dvd re-release would go. Would it be
  • Season 1 set
  • Season 2 set
  • Season 3 set
  • Season 4 set
  • Fast Forward season set
  • Ninja Tribunal season combined with Back To The Sewer season as a set
  • COMPLETE Turtles Forever movie

or would it go
  • Ninja Tribunal season combined with first 13 Fast Forward episodes
  • Final 13 Fast Forward episodes combined with the BTTS season

AT-Man 03-07-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1223936)
  • Ninja Tribunal season combined with first 13 Fast Forward episodes
  • Final 13 Fast Forward episodes combined with the BTTS season

I'd rather want this just so the episodes would be in order.

FoxBoxKid 03-07-2014 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1223936)
I've often wondered how a dvd re-release would go. Would it be
  • Season 1 set
  • Season 2 set
  • Season 3 set
  • Season 4 set
  • Fast Forward season set
  • Ninja Tribunal season combined with Back To The Sewer season as a set
  • COMPLETE Turtles Forever movie

or would it go
  • Ninja Tribunal season combined with first 13 Fast Forward episodes
  • Final 13 Fast Forward episodes combined with the BTTS season

I only want seasons 1-5, so I hope Ninja Tribunal isn't combined with Fast Forward.

tmntpower1988 03-07-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever (Post 1223931)
2k3 shredder is an absolute badass! and I liked the comedy in this series as well and much prefer a darker tone, it really clicked with me. I hate that some of the ever darker episodes were cut

At least the comedy in the 4kids series wasn't OTT. I know that Nick are blending the OT comedy and the 2k3 darker tone but some times the comedy can be so silly it ruins the serious tone of the episodes.

I can watch the 4kids series over and over again with no problems. I love the series so much. I find it tough to watch an episode of the OT, there's times I be tempted to stop watching half through the episodes. I can handle the Nick series better but still feel a bit uneasy when watching their episodes too.

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Originally Posted by AT-Man (Post 1224037)
I'd rather want this just so the episodes would be in order.

Ditto.

Bry 03-07-2014 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1223936)
I've often wondered how a dvd re-release would go.

Man. I can dream. I got the 4Kids season sets when they came out, as well as the "Season 4" and "Ninja Tribunal" sets (as well as the "City at War" and "Return of the Ultimate Ninja" single-disc releases), so I have a somewhat-decent collection of that run. I'd be very happy for a series boxed set, though I doubt we'll see that any time soon.

Though a little while back I imported the Turtles Forever DVD from the UK, released by Best Medicine. It's the full/uncut version in widescreen, and the cover/packaging is also much nicer than the US release. It's kind of amazing how little effort the US distributor put into that release, in comparison.

http://s27.postimg.org/fksxdlhdf/turtlesforever1.jpg
http://s2.postimg.org/o564zh9e1/turtlesforever2.jpg

Honestly, I got it it a fair bit cheaper than it is on Amazon UK right now, but if you have a region-free DVD player, it's well worth it. I'll never understand why Nick released it the way they did in North America.

TheSkeletonMan939 03-08-2014 07:09 AM

Man, that's more beautiful than I remember.

Although I could get that exact same DVD art job done in 45 minutes, tops. It wouldn't be that hard. I'm amazed at how little effort Nickelodeon put into their own DVD.

Giant corporations can really suck at making quality products sometimes.

CyberCubed 03-08-2014 08:30 AM

They will re-release the 4kids series on DVD eventually, just be patient.

Bry 03-11-2014 10:28 PM

Something I never realized until recently... but some of the strongest episodes of the 2003 series were written by some very experienced and celebrated comic writers like Steve Murphy, Christopher Yost, Larry Hama and Joe Kelly (among others). I'm kind of embarrassed I never realized this when the show was on the air. Very cool!

pannoni1 03-21-2014 07:40 PM

While I don't consider myself a non-fan of this series having seen every episode at least once, I still find it fresher than the OT since I have yet to fully grasp this series. This board has many topics about what happened and so much information is helpful. It was the perfect marriage of having a reasonable Mirage storyline mixed in with some original material. As long as it remains under the radar compared to other universes, it will still be the hidden gem of the franchise. It still feels fresh despite not being CGI and doesn't suffer from the datedness of the OT (save for perhaps Red Sky), and most importantly is much faster-paced, meaning that when it is good, it really makes you want to keep watching episode after episode. It also has its own merchandise that has nearly as many rarities that the original series provided. It just takes a backseat though as I focus on Nick, IDW, and the upcoming movie with a side of OT/Mirage nostalgia. At least I have most of the DVDs for this series.

LeotheLateBloomer 03-22-2014 03:15 AM

I love this show SO MUCH as a kid! While like many, I grew up with the OT. However, the 2003 series is what really made me proud to be a TMNT fan. To me, this cartoon is the definitive version of the turtles, outside the Mirage comics. It's just frustrating how Viacom releases merchandise on both the 2012 and the 1987 series but absolutely nothing on the 2003 series. It's as though as if they don't even acknowledge this series' existence.:cry:

nimajneb 03-23-2014 03:31 AM

Yeah that's a real shame, was hoping we'd see a collected work to celebrate the 30th this year,


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