Is the show really doing that bad?
 

I read somewhere online that the show isn't doing very well in terms of ratings right now, and that really is breaking my heart. The Nick series is what made me get into TMNT hardcore, and it just hit me about an hour ago that they will someday get cancelled. Will the show live on past the 3 seasons that they were promised, or will that be it for this era of this lean, mean, green, and incredible team?

As far as sales in toys, I'm assuming that they're doing really well because TMNT toys are the most popular thing right now.

If they do cancel the show after 3 seasons do you think that it will be revived after a year or so (like Family Guy), or do you think that they'll just call it quits for another 5 years?

The Thundercats reboot was a really awesome show. The toys, however, did not sell well so the show got he ax. These toys are selling like hotcakes and as long as that's the case I think this show will stick around. I would be devastated if this show were to go the way of the dinosaur. There is a thread for ratings though if you want to know exactly how the show is doing. Where did you see an article saying that just out of curiosity?

"read somewhere online"

And your source is...?

it's doing bad? :teek:

With the movie going out this year, I believe we can expect at least 5 seasons run for now. Of course I hope it'll go further than that, maybe even going more than 2k3's 6 seasons and OT's 10 seasons.

Spongebob is going on for 15 years now, and its rating is still insanely strong. As long TMNT maintains its quality and story, I'm sure it can do the same.

Have a look at Nick's top rating shows (got it off tumblr):

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Where?

I'm not too surprised if that's true. The mutant-of-the-week stuff is getting old, ,the show isn't as funny as it once was, and some sore points, like Mikey's stupidity and Donnie's crush, have had little development. Frankly, the way the show has gotten, it deserves less than the 8.something reviews it gets from IGN every episode.

At the very least, with a third season, there's time to turn things around, but with how far in advance work begins on episodes that also means they could be in trouble if they don't change direction in the future.

With the kids, maybe. However, I and many other adults have not liked the direction we've seen this line go in. Instead of getting a Karai figure, despite her being in since last season, and showing up in multiple episodes, we've gotten almost all if the MOTWs, including Spider-Bytes, the Scrappy of the series. Furthermore, while I know toy sensibilities don't necessarily mirror ethics or mandates for quality television, it isn't even good taken as a MOTW line. The one thing the show's MOTWs have going for them is they're scary. The toys of them, however, typically shrink them and are badly articulated, so it's nearly impossible to stage an exciting scene playing with them--and that is what I do with my toys.

There's a point I think a lot of people don't recall about FG (and Futurama too, for that matter): it never really died as a money-maker. Not too long after they stopped making new episodes, other networks started rerunning the old ones. Thus, the general reception of the show turned around, making a strong case for making new episodes

With this show, the monetary factor is high. I think with it's more Fred Wolf-esque model (compared to the 4Kids show), the show will be able to hold on, but I could see it becoming overshadowed by other fads.

It's amazing that Spongebob has been going on for 15 years.

What a ridiculous thread. The show has already been renewed through Season 3.

Likewise Nick paid $60 million for the franchise. They didn't decide to own the IP just to kill it in 3 years.

I expect the show to at least have a 7 season run.

Completely false. The show is extremely funny and I laughed multiple times during the the last 3 episodes (Rat King and Wormquake 2-parter)

Mikey's stupidity is charming and Donnie's crush got development in the latest ep.

That's weird, I heard it was one of Nick's top shows :-?

Don't believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see. Unless you hear or see it on the internet and then believe it all. LOL. I'm really just as surprised as you, honestly.

Ugh, why do we get a thread like this every other month?

The show isn't doing bad at all.

Is this a joke? How can Spongebob be so popular?!


BTW, I think the show will eventually get better, it's a tradition that the tmnt shows gets more than ten seasons.

Did anyone think to ask someone from Nick/Viacom how well the show is actually doing?

Of course not, that's an obvious thing to do!
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Its also not just in the USA, globally it seems to be doing well, i've spoken to dromers in mainland europe who've commented on the big following there.
I've seen the viewing figures in the UK (at least for terrestrial) and its doing great.
Will also try and find the viewing figures as proof

Please do. I'd be interested in knowing.

I'm from Spain and it's so damm hard to find the action figures... Because they didn't last on the stores for days!!! In the middle schools there's tmnt sticker fever, this year carnaval almost all the children were dress up like turtles, EVEN adults!

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Doesn't look bad at all.

I feel this show has hit its stride right out of the gate. I have loved every episode (some more than others). It's funny, exciting, well written, has great characters, appeals to fans in all demographics and overall just rocks. My gf works at a daycare and she is constantly telling me stories of kids with turtles shirts, or coloring turtle coloring books, or bringing in the figures for show and tell and role playing on the play ground. So I wouldn't take stock in just one source.

When it comes to getting animation ratings, I typically go with Nick and More. They cover all the major networks that air animation (CN, Nick, Disney, Hub).

And they adjust for the "SpongeBob factor". As you can see from your rankings, decade-old SpongeBob reruns STILL annihilate the competition, even brand new premier episodes of popular shows.

If you don't adjust for the "SpongeBob factor" it makes every other animated program on television look like its failing, when the reality is it's doing just fine.

SpongeBob is... a freakin' juggernaut. I can't explain it. It just is. You cannot kill SpongeBob. He is invincible. He is Eternal.

Adjusted for SpongeBob, TMNT is doing just fine.

TMNT averages 2.6 million viewers an episode, it's doing fine.

I love how the doomsday people are crawling out from the woodwork. Some of you have no clue how TV is produced. The IP is owned by Nick and they paid $60 million for the franchise, probably close to $100 million now after you factor in the production of the show and all the CG model work they had to do.

Like Cyber said fuze Show is doing great in ratings TMNT, LoK and Spongebob(who I hate) are Nick's biggest shows right now I think... plus TMNT has been selling toys and making money like crazy. By all accounts it's a runaway success.

It's hip to be square.

How much did the franchise make last year?

450 million?

Yeah, ratings are next to irrelevant if the kids are buying the toys in mass quantities.

It's doing bad? Pretty sure it's extremely popular, even more so than the 4kids series already, especially with the kids.

This thread needs to be locked. The show is doing phenomenally well.

2K3 had 7 seasons.
Um, no it's not. There has never been a TMNT series with more than ten seasons.

Each cartoon made at least 150 episodes. I expect this show to hit at least 150 episodes as well.

Of course I'd love to see the cartoon reach the 200 episode milestone if possible.

What is it with you and locking threads? Geez, stop it already.

To the OP, I think you should post a source as to where you heard this. Frankly, I don't believe it at all as I think the show is fine. There's Turtles merchandise everywhere. Hell, Mom and I were in Walmart last week and we saw TMNT Easter baskets.

Not to mention the ratings are a bunch of BS! If they are going by nielsen ratings, then please, all TMNT fans here raise your hand if you are a member of the nielsen ratings system (sad fact, there are only 5k to 25k households that are members, and these are the people who get to dictated what the entire freaking country watches. It's a sad, broken and very outdated system.)

Turtle Easter baskets?! xDD ROFL!!! xD

Yep. I saw two different versions. One was shaped like the Turtles' heads so they had one of each, and another one was just a basket with all four Turtles on it. Honesty, I think that's pretty cool.

I think I saw those, on the Kmart site, when I was looking up some other figures. Those types of things aren't really my taste though, but I think other people might like them.

Does every thread about someone's opinion of the show have to be locked?! It's a good thing you're not a admin.

The one thing that will kill this show is if the Paramount/Dunes movie bombs to the point that all the negativity overwhelms the public and suddenly sees anything TMNT like Pogs in 1997 or Mighty Beanz in 2006- outmoded. But unless that happens, this show is doing at the very least maintaining its popularity, and as long as it is profitable via merchandise, there isn't any reason to end the series if there are still some good story ideas. IMO just like the OT there are tentpole classic episodes, mutants of the week, and many in between. It hasn't been super popular because the world is huge in terms of franchises outthere, from Marvel to Star Wars to Transformers to Angry Birds to Avatar to Kung Fu Panda, sort of an "anything goes" culture right now with regards to what sells that sort of establishes an "in club" in which TMNT is part of. The show just needs to be shown more in reruns now that we're about to crack the 40-episode mark which is enough to show daily Mon-Fri for almost two months. By no means has this show jumped the shark/boned the fish, the key plots established are still building towards something dramatic later this season. Speaking of the movie, once promotion starts getting going next month it will provide a chance for the general public to reassess themselves with the franchise, and that will include checking out the new Nick series.

I hope that people would be smart enough if the movie bombs to point the finger at Michael Bay, as he would deserve.

I don't associate any of the Transformers movies with the Transformers franchise.

I see it as a deformed version of a show I loved coming from a deformed mind.

Nothing related to this show looks like it's in trouble. It is airing consistently, with repeats. It is renewed past the season currently airing. The merchandise is doing well and even sells out. Let's compare that to Beware the Batman. Eleven episodes aired before it was taken off the schedule and it has yet to return. Two more episodes were released as part of a DVD release, leaving half the season yet to be released. It isn't on the network's 2014-15 list of returning shows. And it had only one action figure released out of three that were announced or shown, along a tiein comic that is ending this month with a 6 issue run. THAT is what "doing bad" looks like.

I'm also afraid of how the movie will affect the show. I know that many don't consider the movie to be associated with Nick, but I'm afraid some will think along those lines and maybe refuse to watch the show. Only time will tell though. Give me the Nick show and designs over the movie any day from what I've seen and heard.

Why is it that Superhero cartoons are doing so bad? Look at Beware the Batman, Young Justice, Wolverine and the X-Men, Avengers EMH, Green Lantern and so on.

I think the Nick cartoon is doing great compared to all the other Superhero shows but Im afraid that the movie will kill the cartoon (and the IDW comic) if it bombs (just like it killed Green Lantern).