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d3m01iti0n 03-08-2014 06:03 AM

Rick and Morty
 
Anybody watch this new show? Its hilarious. Its been on hiatus for a month but new episodes soon.

Andrew NDB 12-31-2019 12:57 PM

Anybody up on season 4? I didn't care for the dragon/talking cat one but pound for pound pretty good! And they finally did time travel.

neatoman 12-31-2019 08:33 PM

Yes, Rick and Morty is pretty great.

As for season 4:
Death Crystal episode was pretty funny, I liked how Morty ended up so obsessed that he didn't question wheter or the future was even worth the price, no matter how out of hand it got.
Rick getting mad that someone used his toilet was pretty great, the parts with Jerry and Morty were a bit lame but Summer's hook-ups was a good subplot.
Honestly kind of hate the Heist episode, it's all just the same joke about the heist movie formula over and over again, at least Vindicators derived its jokes from how the superhero genre tends to contrive conflict/drama in stupid ways (even if the punchlines were just pointless murders).
I know the Slutty Dragons episode gets a lot of hate but it's still pretty funny to me ("WE LIKE DOWN HERE CAUSE WE CAN **** WOOLLY MAMMOTHS!")
Time Travel Snakes, kinda has the same problem as Heist and Vindicators in that it's just an excuse to diss a genre, but at least the jokes hit much better and primarily being a Terminator parody helps the focus.

And I kinda want to deal with the show's attitude towards time travel on it's own. Dan Harmon has said he likes to avoid time travel because it's inherently confusing and the snake episode is clearly meant to illustrate that, but the thing is that it's really not as inherent as he thinks. The Terminator series as a whole is indeed confusing because the rules of what they can do cahnge from movie to movie, but the original isn't confusing at all, it's a straight timeloop. That's the problem with most bad time travel stories, inconsistant or ambigious rules. Rick and Morty can be excused because it's intentional for the sake of a joke but the criticism that it's inherent isn't a valid one. If you want to make a decent time travel story, just make it clear by creating a guide answering questions like:
  • Can the past be changed?
  • Is there only one timeline or many?
  • How does the time travel impact the traveller?
Just add as many questions as you can think of and you should be fine.

sdp 01-02-2020 08:09 PM

Hype for this show seems to have completely died, I didn't even know there was a new season until it showed up on Netflix, no one is talking about it after the fad that came during season 3. Overall I think these 5 episodes were similar to season 3 where they're ok, but they lack the charm of the first two seasons.

They try a bit too hard with the "look how random we are", and it's no longer as amusing, in the past they played with certain themes which I feel isn't done as much. Still had fun watching them but this isn't the show I fell in love with those first two seasons.

IMJ 01-02-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1830738)
Hype for this show seems to have completely died, I didn't even know there was a new season until it showed up on Netflix, no one is talking about it after the fad that came during season 3. Overall I think these 5 episodes were similar to season 3 where they're ok, but they lack the charm of the first two seasons.

They try a bit too hard with the "look how random we are", and it's no longer as amusing, in the past they played with certain themes which I feel isn't done as much. Still had fun watching them but this isn't the show I fell in love with those first two seasons.


I knew this show had a crazy following but I've never seen it.
I did not know that it was on Netflix.

Maybe I'll check it out. I know that the Rick and Morty comic book has decent aftermarket legs, which is crazy.

Andrew NDB 07-13-2021 04:54 AM

The latest episode of season 5 (episode 4)... was it just me? The first 4 episodes of this season were fantastic but this was... mostly just gross and unfunny? This had to be a different writer or writing team.

neatoman 07-13-2021 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1897510)
The latest episode of season 5 (episode 4)... was it just me? The first 4 episodes of this season were fantastic but this was... mostly just gross and unfunny? This had to be a different writer or writing team.

Dircted by Erica Hayes and written by Nick Rutherford.

Hayes directed the season 4 premiere, the story train episode and the season 4 finale. So I don't think it's her, those are actaully pretty good episodes.

Rutherford has no previous involvement with this show. He's primarily a writer for Dream Corp LLC, something I have never watched myself but you can probably go watch that show to see if it gives you similar vibes.

As for me, it's certainly one of the less clever episodes of the series thus far. It can effectively be summed up as "Semen is gross, incest is gross, sex with horses is gross, Las Vegas is gross and also cannibalism". Maybe the revelation that the cool action hero is a total loser would have been funny but they put way too much emphasis on how cool he seems and his failure to live up to his image is dragged out way too long.

Oh and about the leak:
Spoiler:
Yes, there is a semi-direct sequel to this episode. The incest baby returns and Summer names him Naruto.

Andrew NDB 07-15-2021 05:00 PM

Apparently even TPTB agree it sucked.

https://decider.com/2021/07/13/rick-...and-tasteless/

It honestly felt like someone writing Rick & Morty that had never actually watched any Rick & Morty. Like maybe they read a description somewhere. None of the characters sound like themselves.

And "let's Nancy Reagan this bi**h!" Who has ever talked like this on the show? And I'm 40 and I don't get it. Is it some reference to Nancy taking care of Reagan when he was dying of alzheimers or something?

sdp 07-31-2021 10:08 PM

Im watching season 5 on HBO Max, it's weird actually hearing the characters cuss, I think I prefer it when it's bleeped. This season is the best since season 2. 3 and 4 were awful, especially 4 the show felt like a parody of itself.

neatoman 07-31-2021 10:24 PM

Some of the censorship bleeps are weird in Rick and Morty. Sh*t is frequently unbleeped but "Eat butt" was bleeped.

Andrew NDB 07-31-2021 11:44 PM

This last week's episode with the Thanksgiving/turkey business... on paper the plot seems like a great Rick & Morty adventure... but in execution everyone is talking again like they did in the incest baby/horse people episode. Must be the same guest writers again. It wasn't a BAD episode but I didn't find myself chuckling once.

ZariusTwo 08-09-2021 03:33 PM

So this latest episode reveals that

Spoiler:
Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

Coola Yagami 08-09-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1901804)
So this latest episode reveals that

Spoiler:
Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

what in the flying ****???????????????


So like.... why keep humoring her? Or the family?

ProphetofGanja 08-09-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1901804)
So this latest episode reveals that

Spoiler:
Every Beth we've seen has never been the original, who's been dead since the show started

Yeah that bit was crazy and they really just threw it out there all casual-like…

neatoman 08-09-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1901805)
what in the flying ****???????????????


So like.... why keep humoring her? Or the family?

Rick is very depressed and tries to find some kind of meaningful bond. Technically it is correct that she really isn't more special to him than any other version, but it is also clear that he tries to make work and he can't do that if he just leaves or even just neglects to keep her happy. There is a reason he called the dimension hopping an "emergency solution" back in season 1 (aside from the obvious hint that it would be boring for the audience), how does he know if anything he tried worked if he just got out of dodge all the time? It's really not that hard for me to wrap my head around.

What's a little harder for me to swallow is that he treats this version of Birdperson as the same one he fought alongside when he clearly can't be the same one, even if this Birdperson had a similar history with Rick it can't be exactly the same because of the differences. But we are still meant to think it's interchangeable?

Andrew NDB 08-09-2021 06:01 PM

Mostly I was surprised/disappointed that this episode pretty clearly throws out the theory that Rick might be Morty as an old man.

neatoman 09-08-2021 03:17 PM

So I'm guessing Morty is one of the clones inserted into the family by the Citadel, rather than from a reality where he came about naturally?

neatoman 09-11-2022 06:05 PM

Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

ProphetofGanja 09-11-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1944061)
Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

https://y.yarn.co/9657326a-aa9e-4e88...33e22_text.gif

In reality I think there is an in-universe explanation but I'm just too tired to think of one right now.

Or maybe I'm wrong and you just spotted a major continuity error. I myself have been wondering what's the deal with Rick's passion for his Pirates of the Pancreas ride in the Anatomy Park episode when he is allegedly deathly afraid of pirates as seen in the episode where he beefs with the President.

Bahamut810 09-11-2022 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1944061)
Alright, anyone care to explain how Rick's "fake" backstory and his real backstory can be almost identical aside from when he went after the other Rick? Rick was able to escape his own brain at the start of season 3 because the backstory there was stated to not be a memory and was actually totally fabricated. Yet according to the season 5 finale, it looked pretty much the same aside from Rick waiting to start his search. I thought, because it was muted, it was going to turn out that there were a lot of detail differences while only the broad strokes were accurate, as to allow for it to be at least largely fabricated. But the season 6 premiere pretty much confirms there aren't any significant differences, so what the hell?

I dont know for sure, but it was probably a way to get people talking about the history and will be explained (if it ever is) that that moment was so ingrained into his memory it was easy to recreate over the Shoney's and just change the one detail he needed changed.

That is essentially what happened though, he was able to control the environment around Shoney's, so he changed it to what they wanted to see which was that moment.

neatoman 09-26-2022 06:32 PM

So what do you think of the season so far? Episode 2 and 4 were decent but episode 1 had to deal with the nonsense from the sesason 5 finale and episode 3 was just really awkward to watch.

Cowabung-Gal 09-26-2022 08:39 PM

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“It’s like a love scene with all the same faces.”
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ProphetofGanja 09-27-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1945342)
So what do you think of the season so far? Episode 2 and 4 were decent but episode 1 had to deal with the nonsense from the sesason 5 finale and episode 3 was just really awkward to watch.

I've liked all the episodes from S6 so far; I think it's shaping up to be better than S5 IMO.

Are you not a fan of all the on-going canon stuff, the S5 finale and S6 opener?

neatoman 09-27-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja (Post 1945363)
I've liked all the episodes from S6 so far; I think it's shaping up to be better than S5 IMO.

Are you not a fan of all the on-going canon stuff, the S5 finale and S6 opener?

I'm not a fan of the exact direction they went, not necessarily the concept of having an ongoing story. It's creating contradictions in trying to make sense of the context clues, which is just bizarre. The problem is that the choice to canonise Rick's backstory from the season 3 premiere makes no sense because it was explicitly fake and had to be fake in order to move the plot along. It's a bunch of little things like that which just annoys me about this, if you want to have a serious plot, at least bother to have it make sense, don't just contradict things because it's more dramatic.

Andrew NDB 09-27-2022 10:31 AM

I've been pretty pleased, overall with this season so far. I'm not always laughing hysterically but it's always interesting. Last season had a ton of stinkers.

ProphetofGanja 09-27-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1945369)
I'm not a fan of the exact direction they went, not necessarily the concept of having an ongoing story. It's creating contradictions in trying to make sense of the context clues, which is just bizarre. The problem is that the choice to canonise Rick's backstory from the season 3 premiere makes no sense because it was explicitly fake and had to be fake in order to move the plot along. It's a bunch of little things like that which just annoys me about this, if you want to have a serious plot, at least bother to have it make sense, don't just contradict things because it's more dramatic.

I'll admit I am curious as to whether the writing team is just waiting to reveal the truth about these so-called inconsistencies and it's just a matter of our understanding of the story being wrong, or if there really just have been some balls dropped regarding continuity and these are just little, unintended continuity errors with no good way to explain other than just human error

In any case though they're pretty minor to me and I'm enjoying the show more than last season. This week's Rick and Jerry episode should be funny

neatoman 09-27-2022 09:03 PM

Alright, we're four episode in and I don't think we've seen any of the real clips in the intro yet, so I guess we're about due.

So, which ones are real?

ProphetofGanja 09-29-2022 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1945434)
Alright, we're four episode in and I don't think we've seen any of the real clips in the intro yet, so I guess we're about due.

So, which ones are real?

Ok I'm gonna guess

Rick & Summer wingsuiting away from a giant flying squirrel: real
Rick & Morty meeting Jack the Ripper: fake
Whole family (with Space Beth) parade scene: fake
Mech-suit Jerry: real (maybe even from the episode coming out later this week)
Melting Butter Morty: fake

neatoman 09-29-2022 06:19 PM

I would say Jerry in the space suit is the most likely candidate to be real. Generally the real clips will be animated more stiffly and not really be that funny because they're just ripped from actual scenes with no clear context, while the fake clips are amusing on their own. The real clips tend to also have some sign of being cut off, like they're meant to to go on for longer.

I think the most obvious case of a real clip the show ever used was Story Lord punching Rick in the face, it makes absolutely no sense out of context.

ProphetofGanja 09-30-2022 01:25 PM

Now I'm curious about the rest of this season's episodes based on their titles

From Wikipedia:
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Later episodes are titled "Juricksic Mort", "Ricktional Mortpoon's Rickmas Mortcation", "Full Meta Jackrick", "A Rick in King Mortur's Mort", and "Analyze Piss".
I would've thought they considered spoofing Jurassic Park done, since they basically did the same shtick with the Anatomy Park episode

I'm wondering what "Analyze Piss" is about since it's one of the few episode titles to not follow their usual convention of shoehorning in a family member's name

neatoman 09-30-2022 03:24 PM

From my understanding, they'll be spoofing the "Extinct animals come back" aspect of JP this time, not the "Attempt to open a scientifically implausible theme park full of monsters" aspect like in Anatomy Park.

oldmanwinters 09-30-2022 03:28 PM

Huh, apparently Wendys was offering exclusive UberEats deals this month:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301617173.html

I guess you can still get the drinks?

ProphetofGanja 10-03-2022 05:56 PM

Well I thought that was a pretty funny episode and I really had no idea what to expect based on the very spare preview from last week. Seems they're being pretty cagey with next week's episode too

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1945684)
From my understanding, they'll be spoofing the "Extinct animals come back" aspect of JP this time, not the "Attempt to open a scientifically implausible theme park full of monsters" aspect like in Anatomy Park.

I wonder if Rick will comment on how while they've already parodied the vibe of Jurassic Park they're now spoofing it's actual premise

neatoman 10-05-2022 09:50 AM



And yes, this does seem familiar...


ProphetofGanja 10-05-2022 01:56 PM

LMAO I hadn't seen that yet.

It does feel similar, if anything like a utopian version of wondering what humanity would do under a regime change that significantly changed their society.

What will be very different is the Smith family's reaction, I think

neatoman 10-05-2022 03:31 PM

There are also a few similarities in the details as well, such as Beth drinking wine and being annoyed that her job as a horse surgeon is now obsolete, as well as Summer's irritation that she can't make money and Morty's general apathy to the situation. I think the main difference is that Rick is present instead of Jerry, though he takes on a similar role by being amused by the concept of Earth having been conquered like this and it having no impact on his life. Beyond that, I guess the Federation is (kind of) more "explicitly" evil while the Dinos need to be expunged by the end of the episode may be more of a twist.

Andrew NDB 01-12-2023 06:23 PM

So the season was fine, in all. None of them I can point to and say was bad, outright. I couldn't say that about a lot of the episodes in the last couple of seasons. That said, none of these was great.

Oh, and look. Justin Roiland is in trouble for beating up his significant other:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rick-mo...acing-charges/

ZariusTwo 01-24-2023 04:38 PM

Adult Swim have cut all ties with him

https://twitter.com/RickandMorty/sta...09508420386817

ProphetofGanja 01-24-2023 05:01 PM

Wow I thought he was being dropped because of the creepy grooming-esque messages with minors, I hadn't heard anything about domestic abuse

Andrew NDB 01-24-2023 06:32 PM

Apparently -- allegedly -- he struck an ex so hard she needed medical attention in 2020 and also wouldn't let her leave. So far he hasn't been found guilty of anything. So this is less "we know he did this horrible thing" and more Adult Swim not wanting to deal with the backlash of keeping him on in the mean time.

Still, yeesh. Rick and Morty, RIP. This is not like recasting the voice of Homer Simpson. This is removing a big part of the creative nerve center.


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