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Gokhan 03-16-2014 10:33 AM

splinters parenting (wormquake)
 
This could really only be bothering me because donate lol is my favorite turtle. ..but not once after getting a distress call from Leo an then appearing 2 see his sons in mortal danger did he ask where was his 4th son.

That's not a good father in my eyes I mean even the others could've just said dons in the jeans dimension but nothing!! His brothers didn't seem 2 care much on informing him either:trolleye:

Donatello19 03-16-2014 11:11 AM

I don't think Splinter's a bad parent, but I do wish Donnie was there because it didn't feel the same without him. If you haven't figured it out by now...he's my favorite turtle, too.

Gokhan 03-16-2014 12:43 PM

I don't think he is bad but it was rather odd he didn't even ask where he was given the circumstances

victory_angel 03-16-2014 01:23 PM

I don't think he had the opportunity to ask where Donatello was, it was more immediate into action to save his other three sons. And then getting the poison out of his system once they were at a place of safety.

So if he wondered where Donnie was at all he was probably hoping he could handle himself until the others could get to him.

Warhorse 03-16-2014 02:53 PM

Splinter has always been kind of an iffy father figure. In the comics, he was raising and training his "sons" to pretty much, just avenge his master's death, not too far off from what The Shredder is doing with Karai in this series.

I just hope we don't get no "while you are not my favorite student, that does not mean you are my least favorite son", really, WTF is that supposed to mean??? No freaking wonder why Raph and Donnie got issues, I guess they suffer from that middle child syndrome or something. Donny works his issues out in his inventions, and Raph works his issues out by losing his temper and beating the sh!t out of people/mutants, but they are just temporary fixes for their psychological problems. This is why we need an episode just focusing on Donnie and Raph, just so they can talk about their middle child syndromes.:D

Candy Kappa 03-16-2014 02:57 PM

"I should have eaten you when I had the chance."

Leofan26 03-16-2014 03:38 PM

Forget about Donnie, he hardly notices Mikey. After Leo he really drops the ball with his parenting :lol:

madyankees 03-16-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1228283)
I don't think he had the opportunity to ask where Donatello was, it was more immediate into action to save his other three sons. And then getting the poison out of his system once they were at a place of safety.

So if he wondered where Donnie was at all he was probably hoping he could handle himself until the others could get to him.

This pretty much explains it. Besides, maybe Leo could have kept him up to date about Don when he called ....the cheese phone:D

BabyTurtles 03-16-2014 08:01 PM

Splinter pays more attention to Leo all around...
then Raph...
then Donnie
then Mikey.
at least Splinter talks to Donnie and Raph, he barely ever talks to Mikey. XD

but anyway....I'm wondering if the love triangle plot will sometimes separate Donnie from the others...??

Technogeek29 03-16-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1228321)
Splinter has always been kind of an iffy father figure. In the comics, he was raising and training his "sons" to pretty much, just avenge his master's death, not too far off from what The Shredder is doing with Karai in this series.

I just hope we don't get no "while you are not my favorite student, that does not mean you are my least favorite son", really, WTF is that supposed to mean??? No freaking wonder why Raph and Donnie got issues, I guess they suffer from that middle child syndrome or something. Donny works his issues out in his inventions, and Raph works his issues out by losing his temper and beating the sh!t out of people/mutants, but they are just temporary fixes for their psychological problems. This is why we need an episode just focusing on Donnie and Raph, just so they can talk about their middle child syndromes.:D

Unfortunately when it comes to teams Donnie and Raph get along the least. In fact I'd argue that they fight more then Leo and Raph they definetly come verbal spats a lot faster.

kolaida 03-16-2014 09:12 PM

In his defense (and this has been the only series where I've actually felt like he acted pretty fatherly), his three sons were in immediate danger. I'd imagine any parent facing that would focus on the task at hand and hope that the fourth child's absence meant they were safe, because who wants to find out among that craziness that they have a dead child? If he had found that out, he'd probably have four dead kids, he is wise enough to know to focus on the task at hand as he has a chance to have a say in the outcome.

None of them screamed that Donnie had been killed or seriously injured, which probably would have been the case if he HAD been.

Also, in defense of Splinter always seeming to favor Leo, I honestly think it's just those two have more in common and share similar interests. It's not unusual for a parent to grow close to a child with shared interests, even if the parent doesn't do it on purpose. It also looks like Leo seeks Splinter out more than his brothers. Mikey seems pretty happy on his own. I'm from a family with six members and I usually had to force interest in some things to remain close to certain members growing up, without it, we'd barely have anything in common and no real reason to even speak to each other except for our relation and living together. And now, we only speak because of our relation in a couple cases.

I never thought I'd be defending Splinter, ever. In this series, he doesn't annoy me and I feel he is actually trying his best to parent. He tries his best to give his sons space and doesn't helicopter parent, isn't controlling, but also isn't totally oblivious as to what's going on-- and I think that's great!

Warhorse 03-16-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29 (Post 1228505)
Unfortunately when it comes to teams Donnie and Raph get along the least. In fact I'd argue that they fight more then Leo and Raph they definetly come verbal spats a lot faster.


That simply is not true. If anything, they have always had the most mutual respect for eachother, in most incarnations. And they do make a great team, when Leo or Mikey isn't there bothering the hell out of them.

BabyTurtles 03-16-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1228546)
That simply is not true. If anything, they have always had the most mutual respect for eachother, in most incarnations. And they do make a great team, when Leo or Mikey isn't there bothering the hell out of them.

really?? I think Raph has NO respect for Donnie in this version....and Donnie doesn't seem fond of Raph at all.

Leo and Raph surprisingly get along pretty darn well in this version.

Raph and Mikey love to mess with each other, I'd call that bonding.

Donnie of course get's annoyed by Mikey (like everyone else) but he seems to hang with him the most and they look like they enjoy each others company.

Warhorse 03-16-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1228550)
really?? I think Raph has NO respect for Donnie in this version....and Donnie doesn't seem fond of Raph at all.

Leo and Raph surprisingly get along pretty darn well in this version.

Raph and Mikey love to mess with each other, I'd call that bonding.

Donnie of course get's annoyed by Mikey (like everyone else) but he seems to hang with him the most and they look like they enjoy each others company.

Are we watching the same series? Raph is the only brother that is trying to get Donnie's head out of the clouds when April is around, and he's not doing it for kicks, he's doing it because he cares about Donnie and knows a broken heart is a thousand times worse than any sword stab will ever be.

BabyTurtles 03-16-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1228556)
Are we watching the same series? Raph is the only brother that is trying to get Donnie's head out of the clouds when April is around, and he's not doing it for kicks, he's doing it because he cares about Donnie and knows a broken heart is a thousand times worse than any sword stab will ever be.

I was saying that Raph and Donnie don't get along, how is Raph trying to get April out of Donnie's head "getting along" with him? :ohwell:

they mostly fight whenever they are together unless they are teaming up against Leo XD

(I'm not saying they don't love each other though)

Cure 03-16-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1228558)
how is Raph trying to get April out of Donnie's head "getting along" with him? :ohwell:

Do you give advice to people you don't like and try to make them feel better?

Well, knowing you, I wouldn't be surprised.

BabyTurtles 03-16-2014 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1228563)
Do you give advice to people you don't like and try to make them feel better?

Well, knowing you, I wouldn't be surprised.

I didn't say they didn't LIKE each other.

I was saying they don't GET ALONG, which means to be friendly, compatible.

of course Raph cares for Donnie and vice versa they are brothers and would do anything for each other.

and yes I don't mind giving advice to people I don't like.....I don't see the problem with that.

Gokhan 03-17-2014 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kolaida (Post 1228542)
In his defense (and this has been the only series where I've actually felt like he acted pretty fatherly), his three sons were in immediate danger. I'd imagine any parent facing that would focus on the task at hand and hope that the fourth child's absence meant they were safe, because who wants to find out among that craziness that they have a dead child? If he had found that out, he'd probably have four dead kids, he is wise enough to know to focus on the task at hand as he has a chance to have a say in the outcome.

None of them screamed that Donnie had been killed or seriously injured, which probably would have been the case if he HAD been.

Also, in defense of Splinter always seeming to favor Leo, I honestly think it's just those two have more in common and share similar interests. It's not unusual for a parent to grow close to a child with shared interests, even if the parent doesn't do it on purpose. It also looks like Leo seeks Splinter out more than his brothers. Mikey seems pretty happy on his own. I'm from a family with six members and I usually had to force interest in some things to remain close to certain members growing up, without it, we'd barely have anything in common and no real reason to even speak to each other except for our relation and living together. And now, we only speak because of our relation in a couple cases.

I never thought I'd be defending Splinter, ever. In this series, he doesn't annoy me and I feel he is actually trying his best to parent. He tries his best to give his sons space and doesn't helicopter parent, isn't controlling, but also isn't totally oblivious as to what's going on-- and I think that's great!


I have 2 disagree with the first paragraph. ..splinter is the wisest an most collected 1. While it would Def hurt him he wouldn't lose his composure on the task at hand he would handle business b4 falling apart about his son

kolaida 03-17-2014 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gokhan (Post 1228697)
I have 2 disagree with the first paragraph. ..splinter is the wisest an most collected 1. While it would Def hurt him he wouldn't lose his composure on the task at hand he would handle business b4 falling apart about his son

Any parent would be affected by that; I'm not saying he would break down and start crying right then and there and be totally incapable of helping, but it would definitely affect him. Anyway, I think it played out well. Anybody with a collected composure wouldn't go rushing into that and wildly start demanding the whereabouts of one particular son (if he did, other people would be complaining he only cared about Donnie, hah, can't win for losing).

BubblyShell22 03-17-2014 08:39 AM

Splinter is not a bad parent. He knew the situation was dire and he went to rectify it. If he'd had time, he would have asked about Don or the other Turtles would have told him, but there wasn't time to do so. And maybe Splinter would have been relieved that Don, April, and Casey weren't there because then they wouldn't have been in danger, too.

bridgegrn 03-17-2014 10:29 AM

The turtles would have told him if Donnie was dead or something. And outside of that Splinter trusts and believes in his son's ninja skills aka their ability to survive. He wouldn't send them out to engage anyone if he wasn't. I'm sure he was focused on the matter at hand, saving his kidnapped sons who were defeated, and simply had faith that Donnie was safe with April and Casey and could handle himself if he was in danger.

Gokhan 03-17-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kolaida (Post 1228706)
Any parent would be affected by that; I'm not saying he would break down and start crying right then and there and be totally incapable of helping, but it would definitely affect him. Anyway, I think it played out well. Anybody with a collected composure wouldn't go rushing into that and wildly start demanding the whereabouts of one particular son (if he did, other people would be complaining he only cared about Donnie, hah, can't win for losing).

lol I must say I agree with the last sentence

Bossa Nova 03-17-2014 12:42 PM

Actually, I was pretty annoyed that after the first few seconds, no one seemed to even care if Don was missing or not. When he finally returned I was SO glad that Mikey at least gave him a hug, not that anyone else seemed the least bit concerned. With this kind of huge, two part episode, I really wish Don had stayed with his family, and that April had Casey had been given their own thing to do-I'm sure they could have figured something out without Don's help.

billbot85 03-17-2014 09:23 PM

I think the lack of mentioning Don's disappearance was just a simple continuity error.

I honestly don't think Splinter's a bad parent. He does so much for them in this series.

As mentioned in the first film, "All fathers care for their sons."

Warhorse 03-18-2014 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by billbot85 (Post 1229214)
I think the lack of mentioning Don's disappearance was just a simple continuity error.

I honestly don't think Splinter's a bad parent. He does so much for them in this series.

As mentioned in the first film, "All fathers care for their sons."

Sadly, this isn't always true.

And Splinter is not a bad parent, he just makes some mistakes here and there. Right now, I think the biggest would be with Raphael. He keeps telling Raph to control his anger, but what he should do is try and figure out the root of that anger and stop it from there.

Zog the Equalizer 03-18-2014 09:36 PM

Splinter may not have been a bad parent, but it really bugged me that Don didn't even try to contact the others once he was back in New York. As far as I remember, he didn't know the other turtles were busy or even where they were. I know that could be a continuity error as well, but I think it should have at least been addressed.

BubblyShell22 03-19-2014 05:02 PM

Contacting the others wasn't on his mind, and it's not like they would have been able to answer since they were tied up by Tiger Claw. He was more concerned with getting out of there though I'm sure he was still worried about his brothers.

AT-Man 03-19-2014 06:39 PM

This is quite offtopic, but it seems to me that every time they split into two teams, it's Leo & Don, Raph & Mike. R&M is probably the most dysfunctional team possible, why won't Leo ever take Mike with him?

Or am I just imagining things?

BabyTurtles 03-19-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AT-Man (Post 1230465)
This is quite offtopic, but it seems to me that every time they split into two teams, it's Leo & Don, Raph & Mike. R&M is probably the most dysfunctional team possible, why won't Leo ever take Mike with him?

Or am I just imagining things?


AT-Man 03-19-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1230469)
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Exactly. But as a leader Leo should bring some balance to the situation, not be all "I pity the fool who gets to team up with everyone's least favorite team member."

BabyTurtles 03-19-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AT-Man (Post 1230474)
Exactly. But as a leader Leo should bring some balance to the situation, not be all "I pity the fool who gets to team up with everyone's least favorite team member."

XD I'm not agreeing with him! I think it's wrong that the other boys don't wanna give Mikey the time of day.

even though I see why they wouldn't...he's the little brother and usually you don't want to be stuck with your goofy little brother.

still I think Mikey's gonna have an episode sooner or later that proves once and for all without any questions...his worth to the team (even though he's done that a hundred times already)

snake 03-19-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1230477)
XD I'm not agreeing with him! I think it's wrong that the other boys don't wanna give Mikey the time of day.

even though I see why they wouldn't...he's the little brother and usually you don't want to be stuck with your goofy little brother.

still I think Mikey's gonna have an episode sooner or later that proves once and for all without any questions...his worth to the team (even though he's done that a hundred times already)

Hopefully that happens soon, becuase In this incarnation, Mikey is my favorite.

Warhorse 03-20-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AT-Man (Post 1230465)
This is quite offtopic, but it seems to me that every time they split into two teams, it's Leo & Don, Raph & Mike. R&M is probably the most dysfunctional team possible, why won't Leo ever take Mike with him?

Or am I just imagining things?

It's typical TMNT pairing. We seldom see the Leo/Mikey and Raph/Donnie partnerships. Now, the Leo/Donnie, Raph/Mikey, Donnie/Mikey and Raph/Leo have been done to death.

victory_angel 03-20-2014 12:11 AM

Season 1 has been largely Leo/Raph and Donnie/Mikey pair ups.

Season 2: Leo/Donnie and Raph/Mikey team ups are becoming the norm.

Warhorse 03-20-2014 12:21 AM

Sadly, my favorite pairings were Raph and Leo. I like the bickering (and that Leo is the only one Raph can't really push around, seriously, has he even smacked Leo upside the head yet?), but when sh!t hits the fan, they make an awesome team.

BabyTurtles 03-20-2014 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1230642)
Sadly, my favorite pairings were Raph and Leo. I like the bickering (and that Leo is the only one Raph can't really push around, seriously, has he even smacked Leo upside the head yet?), but when sh!t hits the fan, they make an awesome team.

I've been enjoying the Raph and Mikey team up they make an entertaining team XD

it would be nice to see more Mikey and Leo and Don and Raph though.

but I'd imagine Mikey wouldn't cause alot of strife for Leo, cause he's the one that barely ever questions him.

Don and Raph might cause for some brain versus brawn moments XD

Warhorse 03-20-2014 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1230647)
I've been enjoying the Raph and Mikey team up they make an entertaining team XD

it would be nice to see more Mikey and Leo and Don and Raph though.

but I'd imagine Mikey wouldn't cause alot of strife for Leo, cause he's the one that barely ever questions him.

Don and Raph might cause for some brain versus brawn moments XD

Funny thing though, with Don's crush on April, this show seems to leaning that Donnie might go to Raph for comfort when April lets him down, seeing as Raph has been juggling the pros and cons for Donnie. He tells Donnie it will never work, but at the same time, when Donnie makes a fool of himself, Raph will drag him away so he don't keep shoving those feet into his mouth. Raph wasn't so kind to Leo when he had his fixation on Karai. But, while these little Raph/Don moments aren't often, when they are there, they are worth the wait!

BabyTurtles 03-20-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1230651)
Funny thing though, with Don's crush on April, this show seems to leaning that Donnie might go to Raph for comfort when April lets him down, seeing as Raph has been juggling the pros and cons for Donnie. He tells Donnie it will never work, but at the same time, when Donnie makes a fool of himself, Raph will drag him away so he don't keep shoving those feet into his mouth. Raph wasn't so kind to Leo when he had his fixation on Karai. But, while these little Raph/Don moments aren't often, when they are there, they are worth the wait!

hmm it would be interesting to see Raph do that for Donnie :)

I think Raph was a little more harsh on Leo cause he felt he should have known better since he's the older brother and SHE WAS A VILLAIN :D he double should have known better. Raph was trying to quickly snap him out of that fiasco!

with April...she's not evil...she's their friend so Raph might not see the urgency in telling Donnie it's hopeless. But I'm sure he can help him through it (or any turtle....maybe Leo since he liked a girl too?)

BubblyShell22 03-20-2014 09:11 AM

Raph's the type who tells it like it is, so he told Donnie he doesn't have a shot with April because he didn't want to get Don's hopes up. With Leo, it was more about him flirting with the enemy and that was dangerous to the Clan. But he doesn't have to worry now because I don't think Leo feels attracted to her anymore.

victory_angel 03-20-2014 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1230758)
Raph's the type who tells it like it is, so he told Donnie he doesn't have a shot with April because he didn't want to get Don's hopes up. With Leo, it was more about him flirting with the enemy and that was dangerous to the Clan. But he doesn't have to worry now because I don't think Leo feels attracted to her anymore.

This is true, Raph is a serious realist and the only thing he sees Donnie getting in her end is serious hurt. So by telling Donnie that he has no shot with April he thought that by giving Donnie a big douse of reality.

Leo also doubts Donnie and April will ever be a couple, but he doesn't say anything because April is someone that makes Donnie feel happy and he doesn't feel he has any right to take that away. But he also knows Donnie well enough that if you tell him he can't do something or has no shot at doing something then he try and prove you wrong.


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