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fridaynightdestination 03-23-2014 01:30 PM

Least Favorite Turtle?
 
A lot of people express their favorite turtle on this forum, they'll post pics of them in their avatar and signature, or have their usernames named after them. But who is your least favorite?

For me it's Raphael. He seems to me like a whiny little b**** (pardon my French) And as Leo states in TMNT his anger always jeopardizes their missions. He can never get along with Leo, and in the Nick show he torments Mikey sometimes, and Mikey is my favorite turtle in every incarnation, so seeing Mikey getting picked on sucks. But I actually liked Raph in TMNT. Even though his anger did jeopardize what they were doing, I like how while Donnie and Mikey didn't do much, Raph took up being the Nightwatcher, and it was cool to see him stand up to Leo.

But who is your least favorite turtle? (I have a feeling I'm about to get a rain of hate and "MIKEY SUCKS" messages from Raph fans)

billbot85 03-23-2014 01:49 PM

For me, it teeters between Leonardo and Michaelangelo. Leo was my least favorite in the OT due to his 1 dimensional personality, but I love him in the 2012 series. In the 2012 series, Mikey is my least favorite considering how much they dumbed him down.

I can't really make a fair assessment for the 2k3 series since I haven't watched enough of it.

Bossanova 03-23-2014 01:57 PM

truly the hardest question i have ever had to think about. if i absolutely had to choose, i would say Leo. There is no real reason why, but even as a kid i was never pretending to be him. maybe its because he's the leader and the whole responsibility thing sucks.

Kanon 03-23-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination (Post 1232439)
For me it's Raphael. He seems to me like a whiny little b**** (pardon my French) And as Leo states in TMNT his anger always jeopardizes their missions. He can never get along with Leo, and in the Nick show he torments Mikey sometimes, and Mikey is my favorite turtle in every incarnation, so seeing Mikey getting picked on sucks. But I actually liked Raph in TMNT. Even though his anger did jeopardize what they were doing, I like how while Donnie and Mikey didn't do much, Raph took up being the Nightwatcher, and it was cool to see him stand up to Leo.

But who is your least favorite turtle? (I have a feeling I'm about to get a rain of hate and "MIKEY SUCKS" messages from Raph fans)

I am a Raphael Fangirl and yes I think Mikey sucks (but only in the 2k3 series):lol:

My choice would also be Leo, because I think he is too obsessed to be a
great leader. No ones perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

RaphAndDonnie 03-23-2014 02:15 PM

For me it's a toss up between Leo and Mikey. I've nevr cared for characters that play the 'leader' of a group. Don't know why, I just don't like them. As for Mikey, well, being the comic relief kind of hinders him.

I find him funny, sometimes, but if he isn't funny he's annoying and one-dimensional. He needs to become more then 'the funny one.'

Whatswiththeheadbands? 03-23-2014 02:23 PM

How dare you ask me such a question!:P

My least favorite Turtle...

I have to say Leonardo to be honest. I never really liked him in the OT, and i didn't really like him in the movies, whereas the other turtles were brilliant.

So, yeah, Leo.

I still really like Leo, just not as much as the others.

Mzx10484 03-23-2014 02:39 PM

Never liked Leo's (german) voice in the OT. He lisped, and otherwise he was not very cool. My perception in childhood. Today ?? Hmm ...

kolaida 03-23-2014 03:11 PM

For me, it's usually been Raphael just because I found his temper tantrums annoying but I love him in the Nick series. It alternates, though, just like my favorite turtle does. Actually, though, I guess it alternates between Raph, Donnie, and Leo. I've never had Mikey as my least favorite turtle (or my most favorite!) but I just love him (maybe he is my favorite and I don't know it?!).

This is a really hard question, though. They all have great points.

Powder 03-23-2014 03:17 PM

Toss up between Raph & Mikey. Raph can be a bit too one-dimensional in certain versions, & Mikey can be over the top in some. Not a fan of when Raph is 24/7 angry or Mikey is hyperhyperhyper.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-23-2014 03:18 PM

For me it yo-yos back and forth between Leo and Raph. I've never cared much for the leader/hot-head dynamic, since it just seems so overdone and unnecessary. Okay, we get it- Raph has issues feeling like second-fiddle to the "perfect" son. And Leo is just plain boring most of the time- at least in most of the earlier versions. I actually like him better in Nick than I did in the OT or 2K3 toons. The movie version was okay, but also bland, IMHO.

In the 90's movies and 2k3, Raph was kind of one-note to me, due to his anger management issues being such a huge part of his character. I liked him much better in the OT series. (where he was my second fave to Mikey.) He was pretty much the same in the CG movie, although I have to admit that I LOVED his scene in the diner getting his butt stomped by that little monster! Leo would have SOO never let him live that one down.... For that matter, neither would Mikey, knowing his sense of humor. :trazz:

turtlefanforever 03-23-2014 03:30 PM

I guess i'll be the darkhorse
 
I'm going Donetello. I love them all but if I had to pick its Donny. A lot of it cause I don't really like the color purple, he is the most needed of all the turtles but he is often times the most under developed. They all have such strong personalities but his tends to stick out the least. You know who he is but he is probably the hardest to connect with.

Drose18 03-23-2014 03:47 PM

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Warhorse 03-23-2014 03:56 PM

It's usually either Donnie or Mikey. But really, it's not so much I love them the least, I just love Raph and Leo more


But, Leo, I have this love hate relationship with this guy. I love how he is dependable, cool headed, the go to guy in tough situations, but he is often written so cocky and at the expense of my favorite, Raphael, so I just love the few times we see Raphael have enough of his ego and kick his shell for it! Bring him back to earth.

Vicky82 03-23-2014 04:20 PM

Wow this is a hard question but it depends on which incarnation.

OT toon - Leo
first 3 movies - dunno, have to watch them again
Next Mutation - (not including Venis) dunno have to watch it again
2k3 toon - A tie between Leo and Mikey
IDW comic - Donnie
07 movie - Leo
2k12 toon - Can't say in this one, It's too hard.

Powder 03-23-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshdonnie (Post 1232514)
Leos queer in 2012 but the best in 2k3

What exactly do you mean by that?

Bossa Nova 03-23-2014 04:38 PM

Really difficult to answer...I definitely love Don and Raph the most, but that's not to say I actively DISlike Leo and Mike. I suppose if I absolutely had to choose it would be Leo, since for whatever reason I just don't really care when things happen to him. I'm not sure why, he's really difficult for me to watch or read (like in the comics) about his story arcs and really be super invested unless I'm likewise watching the effect it has on his brothers.

However, as a fanfic writer, Leo tends to be one of my favorites to write about. It's kind of weird, but when I write him it's so much easier to understand him, and discover and appreciate the complexities of his character that I just can't get into otherwise.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 03-23-2014 04:48 PM

Leonardo...ESPECIALLY in the 2007 film. I have never hated a turtle as much as Leo in the 2007 movie. Because he was such a Hypocritical D*ckhead.

Leo could go into a jungle, be gone for a lot longer than he first said he was, make his family think he was dead because he didn't even 'Keep in Contact' with them, comes back and gets a special Medal from Splinter? And Donnie/Mikey are just absolutely fine with it?

Then he makes Raph seem like he was the bad guy because "you went out and fought crime like a vigilante. that is wrong"...while Leo did THE SAME DAMN THING in the jungle. Did Leo forget he was the "Ghost of the Jungle"? Fighting crime Like a Vigilante?

(and please don't give me 'but there are cops who can do it in the city.' Cops can do it anytime but that doesn't stop the Turtles from fighting crime all of those other times. Like Raph said, Crime doesn't take a break. And Raph was fighting the same way Leo was in the jungle. Just Leo being a huge hypocrite.)

In other words, doing the Same Thing Raph Was Doing, and yet "Leo is Right" while "Raph is Wrong"? How does that logic work?

And Yet Leo wants to make it out that Raph was the bad guy...even though Leo disappeared for longer than he should, didn't let his family know that he was okay, gets a pat on the ass and a Medal from Splinter as well as Praise when he gets back...and then that Stupid Line:

"I'm Better Than You."

I absolutely HATED Leo in the 2007 film. I seriously wanted to Deck him in the Face. Hard!

Warhorse 03-23-2014 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossa Nova (Post 1232544)
Really difficult to answer...I definitely love Don and Raph the most, but that's not to say I actively DISlike Leo and Mike. I suppose if I absolutely had to choose it would be Leo, since for whatever reason I just don't really care when things happen to him. I'm not sure why, he's really difficult for me to watch or read (like in the comics) about his story arcs and really be super invested unless I'm likewise watching the effect it has on his brothers.

However, as a fanfic writer, Leo tends to be one of my favorites to write about. It's kind of weird, but when I write him it's so much easier to understand him, and discover and appreciate the complexities of his character that I just can't get into otherwise.

Funny, with Leo, while he gets some serious screen time, I find him to be short changed in the fleshing out his character. He's not the most verbal character except in just pointing out what others are doing, or what they should do, but we're not given any insight to what he's feeling about situations himself.

Kurai 03-23-2014 05:06 PM

Wow, this is a tough one...

I'm not sure who my least favorite is. My favorite is Raphael, followed by Michelangelo, but I'm not sure who I prefer out of Leonardo and Donatello.

MsMarvelDuckie 03-23-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt (Post 1232549)
Leonardo...ESPECIALLY in the 2007 film. I have never hated a turtle as much as Leo in the 2007 movie. Because he was such a Hypocritical D*ckhead.

Leo could go into a jungle, be gone for a lot longer than he first said he was, make his family think he was dead because he didn't even 'Keep in Contact' with them, comes back and gets a special Medal from Splinter? And Donnie/Mikey are just absolutely fine with it?

Then he makes Raph seem like he was the bad guy because "you went out and fought crime like a vigilante. that is wrong"...while Leo did THE SAME DAMN THING in the jungle. Die Leo forget he was the "Ghost of the Jungle"? Fighting crime Like a Vigilante?

(and please don't give me 'but there are cops who can do it in the city.' Cops can do it anytime but that doesn't stop the Turtles from fighting crime all of those other times. Like Raph said, Crime doesn't take a break. And Raph was fighting the same way Leo was in the jungle. Just Leo being a huge hypocrite.)

In other words, doing the Same Thing Raph Was Doing, and yet "Leo is Right" while "Raph is Wrong"? How does that logic work?

And Yet Leo wants to make it out that Raph was the bad guy...even though Leo disappeared for longer than he should, didn't let his family know that he was okay, gets a pat on the ass and a Medal from Splinter as well as Praise when he gets back...and then that Stupid Line:

"I'm Better Than You."

I absolutely HATED Leo in the 2007 film. I seriously wanted to Deck him in the Face. Hard!

Yeah, he really rubbed me the wrong way in that one, too. That line most of all. That was such a slap in the face to Raph, who really didn't deserve that. Leo just acted like everything was Raph's fault, and took no real responsibility for anything that happened- in spite of the fact that he was put in charge of the rest. Then he got pissy when Splinter called him on it. Though Splinter DID go overboard saying Leo was responsible for everything when none of them listened to him. He can't FORCE them to do what he says, and Splinter should know that....

BubblyShell22 03-23-2014 05:55 PM

I'd have to say Don because I just can't relate to him. I do like him in the Nick series though as that Donatello has more depth than just being "the smart one." Plus, I sometimes find him difficult to write, though I'm doing my best to work on that.

Donatello19 03-23-2014 06:01 PM

It mostly depends on what version of the TMNT we're talking about, but Raph is usually my least favorite.

ABrown 03-23-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1232585)
I'd have to say Don because I just can't relate to him. I do like him in the Nick series though as that Donatello has more depth than just being "the smart one."

Same for me on both counts.

jett 03-23-2014 07:25 PM

It has to be Raph. His attitude problem is annoying as heck and thinks he is better than everyone even though leonardo kicks his cocky ass every time to remind him who is boss and to stfu and listen like a leader should.

NinjaPug 03-23-2014 07:41 PM

I guess it depends on the version but Raph is usually my least favorite. I've never been a fan of the angry, hot-head character.

MisfitKraang 03-23-2014 08:52 PM

Raphael is my least favorite he gets really annoying:x

Warhorse 03-23-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jett (Post 1232635)
It has to be Raph. His attitude problem is annoying as heck and thinks he is better than everyone even though leonardo kicks his cocky ass every time to remind him who is boss and to stfu and listen like a leader should.

He does? I don't know about you, but I have seen plenty of times when Raph has kicked Leo's ass, and even called out on him when he does do stupid things (like follow around Karai like a dumbass, or trust The Shredder when they first met) Leaders need that second voice, it keeps their heads down and clear, because they do not always make the right choices.

TMNT_Guy 03-23-2014 09:27 PM

For me, it used to be Leonardo, until I saw the original series episode “Take Me to Your Leader”. After learning just how much pressure Leo is always under and the amount of responsibility he has, I found a new appreciation for his character.

I love all the Turtles, I could never say I have a least favorite…unless were talking about 2003/4Kids Michelangelo.

Panda Khan 03-23-2014 09:41 PM

It was Leo for a while but he's grown on me. Mikey is probably my least favorite but I still like him.

Rooish 03-23-2014 10:05 PM

My least favourite was Donatello because during the 2k3 and Volume 4 years, Peter Laird was in charge of everything and made Don pretty annoying...

Raph has gone from being an emotional prick to a downright bully / abuser... he's my least favourite now.

Bossa Nova 03-23-2014 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1232552)
Funny, with Leo, while he gets some serious screen time, I find him to be short changed in the fleshing out his character. He's not the most verbal character except in just pointing out what others are doing, or what they should do, but we're not given any insight to what he's feeling about situations himself.

Good point, and it probably is a big reason why I just can't warm up to him too much when it comes to watching him. But when I write him I can really get inside his head and I often find I sympathize with him quite a bit. Yet I find he's often given the royal treatment in the shows and comics, given a lot of the important storylines and intense scenes, and I grow really bored of it, like 'Oh, another Leo plot :ohwell:'

BabyTurtles 03-24-2014 12:07 AM

I love them all, but Donnie has been on my nerves lately......

Shark_Blade 03-24-2014 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FellowChucker (Post 1232817)
Only ones I outright disliked:

In 2k3, Mike because he had copious forced un funny humor which was real awkward.
In 2k7, Leo because he's a pretentious, self righteous douche.

I just pick one for each carnation:

OT - Leo (1 dimensional predictable hero character)
2k3 - Don (just overall boring and dull personality. So passive and too soft)
2k12- Mikey (when he has his very dumb moments like Mutation Situation - lame cheese monster joke (wtf?!), speaking without thinking of April's feelings, treating her father like a zoo animal, etc)

But overall I like them all.

Technogeek29 03-24-2014 06:19 AM

It various from version to version and I couldn't really say least favorite as I have first favorite and 2nd while the other two fall into 3rd place.

OT: Leonardo being a little bland outside of episodes he wasn't the focus or wasn't learning a lesson.

2k3: Raphael was always angry for little to no reason. He had his moments sure but they are few and far inbetween. And his voice is more of what imagine a very much older Raphael to sound like.

Nick: Raphael again who despite being less angry than most Raphael's is somehow more whiney, where the majority of his centric episodes are him screaming "They just don't get it" season 2 alone he's said this 9 times.

SwiftNinjaFox 03-24-2014 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1232562)
Yeah, he really rubbed me the wrong way in that one, too. That line most of all. That was such a slap in the face to Raph, who really didn't deserve that. Leo just acted like everything was Raph's fault, and took no real responsibility for anything that happened- in spite of the fact that he was put in charge of the rest. Then he got pissy when Splinter called him on it. Though Splinter DID go overboard saying Leo was responsible for everything when none of them listened to him. He can't FORCE them to do what he says, and Splinter should know that....

Y'know, I really liked that argument with them. Everything Leo said was applicable to Raph and I loved that stinger "I'm better than you" but.....

You're right, in the placement of the film is just didn't make sense. They didn't set up the story to lead up to that confrontation. Peter Laird even had problems with the Leo vs Nightwatcher angle, including the fight didn't really fit and hating that Leo (and Mike/Don for that matter) didn't know the Nightwatcher was Raph.

I think there was a lot of potential because Leo and Raph are parallels of one another in a lot of ways, but it just didn't get put together right in the film.

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1232710)
He does? I don't know about you, but I have seen plenty of times when Raph has kicked Leo's ass,

Agreed, which also kind of bugs me. Leo seems to get beat by Raph most of the time unless it's dojo sparring. I've always been irked that they portray brute force and wrecklessness as able to just outmuscle and overpower disciplined training in a series that's got martial arts at its heart.

Not to say Raph has no martial arts skill, he's a ninja same as the others, but it always seems like when he and Leo throw down they portray it with Raph's brute strength winning out.



But on topic, probably Donatello is my least favorite overall. Not that I dislike him, he's just bottom of my order of how much I like them.

Leo's my favorite and always has been. Can't entirely place why since I'm not usually favoring the leadership character.
Raph's second favorite, but probably largely due to Leo/Raph dynamic being amusing to watch.
Mike is next but I do like the comic relief (and because he's just fun loving, not an idiot, making him the best kind of comic relief).
So that leaves Don to bring in the last spot. To be fair, outside of Nick, I don't feel like Don has gotten the attention he deserves.

Outside of Leo being my favorite, don't ask me to pick an order for IDW. They're all being given facets of their personalities that I really like how well rounded they're becoming.

Donatello19 03-24-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1232816)
I love them all, but Donnie has been on my nerves lately......

Is Don himself getting on your nerves, or is it his crush on April? Because I know you really hate that for whatever reason.

BabyTurtles 03-24-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1233095)
Is Don himself getting on your nerves, or is it his crush on April? Because I know you really hate that for whatever reason.

like I said I love them all, so I only picked Donnie because of his crush on April, which I personally don't care for at all and seeing as that's a part of his character now....it annoys me a little.

also......I relate the least to Donnie......it used to be Donnie and Leo, but since Nick made Leo so dorky and entertaining he actually bumped up to my 2nd fav turtle ^_^

again love Donnie~ whenever his crush goes away he'll be back to where he was before. (or if he keeps the crush...then Nick Donnie will simply be my least favorite Donnie and I'll just move on) no biggie.

LeotheLateBloomer 03-24-2014 05:04 PM

1987 - I guess Donatello because he just didn't seem that much interesting in this version. Even so, I still like him.
First film - Donatello because he was nothing like he is suppose to be. He was just Mikey's duplicate.
Next Mutation - Everyone, especially Venus!:x
2003 - No one really.
2007 - While I wasn't a fan of how they portrayed Leo and Raph, they weren't too bad. Don and Mike, despite the lack of screen time, still acted in character. Once again, no one.
2012 - Raphael. I know this is Raph but even for him, being a bully was never part of his character. In the past incarnations, I always viewed him as the "Wolverine" of the group where if you leave him alone, he'll leave you alone. I don't mind him being sarcastic but the way he treats his brothers is just wrong.

For all of the others, I really don't have a least favorite because I either like or dislike the equally. Depends on the incarnation.

Bmaga123 03-24-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination (Post 1232439)
A lot of people express their favorite turtle on this forum, they'll post pics of them in their avatar and signature, or have their usernames named after them. But who is your least favorite?

For me it's Raphael. He seems to me like a whiny little b**** (pardon my French) And as Leo states in TMNT his anger always jeopardizes their missions. He can never get along with Leo, and in the Nick show he torments Mikey sometimes, and Mikey is my favorite turtle in every incarnation, so seeing Mikey getting picked on sucks. But I actually liked Raph in TMNT. Even though his anger did jeopardize what they were doing, I like how while Donnie and Mikey didn't do much, Raph took up being the Nightwatcher, and it was cool to see him stand up to Leo.

But who is your least favorite turtle? (I have a feeling I'm about to get a rain of hate and "MIKEY SUCKS" messages from Raph fans)

My order is exactly the opposite of yours. I love all 4 for different reasons but if I had to choose my least favorite it Mikey and my favorite is Raph.

Favorite to least for me is:

1. Raph
2. Don
3. Leo
4. Mike

Shellsweet 03-24-2014 07:46 PM

My favorite is Donatello, but it's hard for me to choose a least favorite. Out of all the incarnations though, 2k12 Don is easily my least favorite.


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