Could the Turtles actually start out as humans?
 

It started as an uneasy feeling, a eerie hunch, when the actors were cast as Turtles and all looked their parts.
I remember posting about it and being relieved I wasn't the only one thinking it...
Then again- some thought we were insane.

I must admit I'd totally forgotten about it.
Until I saw the teaser today. And the dormant fear returned...

The fact that "heroes are created", The ooze-fueled Super Soldier machine,
and worst of all, how unsettlingly human the 'Turtles' look... The nostrils, the lips instead of beaks...

The more I think aboout it the more I think it's not just a paranoid imagination...

Also, let's be honest... knowing Michael Bay and his modern action movie henchmen, with the photomodel lead actresses and the humongous antennae falling from skyscrapers for the umptieth time...knowing what we know now after seeing the teaser and how realistic everything looks... I can't honestly imagine that -with the movie's 'creation of heroes' plot- they'd actually consider using baby turtles as guinea pigs to spawn the saviours of the city.

Seriously- I sure hope I'm wrong. I hope they didn't dare and that I'm imagining things...

Could be. The Turtles could have been teenaged Foot Soldier recruits, and Splinter could have been Hamato Yoshi, the guy training the Foot Soldier recruits who has a change of heart.

Dang it, Andrew... I'd have preferred that you said I was nuts...
Instead, you make it worse with a very likely sounding explanation...


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

;)

And at that point Michel bay will come out of screen and showe his middle finger in your mouth, wouldn't that be biggest **** you to the fans ever? :D

Yes. Yes, I believe it would... ;)

It's probably even the more likely scenario. Only question is if they bumbled onto the ooze and got accidentally exposed or if it was an intentional dosage/they were forcibly exposed.

I'd bet the former. I can just imagine some lame scene with their version of Dude Mikey, as a human, bumping into some canister, knocking it all over his brothers and Yoshi.

We should have let them be aliens.
That could have still pumped out some cool ideas.

TMNT IDW started them as young human boys, so sure why not. :tcool:

Reincarnation, it's completely different.

The poll needs a "I wasn't thinking about it before, but now you're freaking me out"-option

That's crazy, that's nuts, that's...completely probable. Oh man, its something I can totally see them doing. It would be an..interesting take on the origin.

I agree, there really should.

You're right. Totally should've added that option...

Anyway... Sorry to freak you out, buddy...

Just thought of another reason the Bay suits could've concocted this wacky idea...
If the Turtles truly start out as humans,- the lil' youngsters can go "Gee, that means I could be a Turtle too"...

haha, it's okay. I wouldn't be surprised if you were right

Given the choice, I'd rather not be right...

Ugh. I hope not.

Dear lord that would suck. Especially since they wouldn't be Teenagers anymore, we would have to call them Adult Mutant Ninja Turtles, or AMNT

Why would that mean they'd be non-teenagers? And if they're 18 or 19 they're still adults and teenagers.

Why not, they seemingly overhauled pretty much everything about Shredder.

It is believable that they start out as humans but I really hope that is not the case! In the movie, Splinter is played by a little person and I imagine that he is created the same way as the turtles. If they started out as humans, that would probably mean that Splinter would be the same size as the turtles. So maybe there is hope that they don't start out as humans.

We, Splinter as a human could still suffer from Dwarfism, like Trask does in X-Men Future Past.

aforementioned is what u where looking for

I hope to ****ing Christ that they're regular turtles who get splashed with the ooze.

This is one possible alteration I would object to. The adversity and isolation they faced from the start of their lives had a hand in shaping their personalities and their perceptions of the world around them. They wouldn't be the same if they were just four boys who knew ninjitsu and had similar personalities to the turtles we know.

Well, Shredder isn't the same, so why not the Turtles. It's a brave new world, stupider, but brave.

Luckily, the majority of you think I'm wrong... That's reassuring.
It's only 6 against 5 but it's something. A tiny ray of hope...

Let me start by saying that I'm not defending the movie. Unless the final product changes my mind I'm still not a fan of the redesigns of the turtles or the whitewashing of splinter/shredder.

But I don't think the turtles are going to start out as human. I'm also taking shredders voiceover in the trailer with a grain of salt. Teasers are montages cut together with dialogue in order to give a feeling of momentum, more than give an idea of plot like a full trailer does. Often the dialogue used has nothing to do with the visuals being represented. I wouldn't be surprised if Eric Sachs (ugh) was either A. talking about something completely different than the turtles (perhaps how the mutagen was created/discovered/researched as some super soldier serum) and/or B. he is lying to April about how the mutagen came to be. He is the Villain after all.

Again, not saying we'll like the final product..just that I highly doubt this movie will show children being turned into hideous turtle monsters. It is being marketed to children after all.

Also if mikey is so naive about his looks and thinks his bandana is really a sufficient disguise, then i doubt they were human before. if its really a joke and he means it as a joke, i still doubt that they were human before.

They better not. That's worse than having them as aliens in the leaked script.

Though if it's anything like the IDW origin, I could live with it.

Well in the first movie, Raph thought that a trench coat and fedora was a sufficient disguise to go to the movies lol. I think it was meant as a joke. Obviously he knows that she is freaked out because he is a giant mutated turtle with lips.

I asked this same question awhile ago. It seems very logical to me, and would not really bother me at all.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=45980

Yeah, this is going way too far. If they are changing this much, then why bother with making the TMNT to begin with, might as well just invent something themselves, like the Dinosaur Warriors of NYC!

That would definitely be weird and different.

Wouldn't that make them Tenage Mutant Ninja Humans?

To sum up how I'd feel about that... I'll answer your question with another question...

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I choose Yes as a possibility.

It would certainly save time having to explain how 4 pet turtles learnt how to fight.

Suppose they could have been ex-ninjas??

Its a possibility.

i will repeat my question, Wouldn't that make them Teenage Mutant Ninja Humans?

This is pretty much my thought process, I honestly don't think he seemed to mean that as a joke, I think he just has a limited understanding of humans and what causes their fear.

As far as the mention of Raphael using trenchcoat/fedora as a disguise from the original movie, that is a disguise going back a long ways, I mean Ben Grimm did the same when he tried to pass unnoticed in the Fantastic Four comics, as did the turtles in the original cartoon. Believable? No...hence the cab driver playing up the absurdity, but Raphael never intended that as a joke, to him it was a legitimate disguise...

Which begs the question, IF he DOES have such a limited understanding of humans, why would he wear human clothes?

So...we Kamen Rider now

Well his outfit is kind of ridiculous, and he hoped that it made him seem more human...

Either that, or to his mind, he believes that humans are a bit more understanding to physical differences, and believes that he'll be viewed in better terms...kind of like 2012 Mikey when he tried to give the human his cat back, not believing that he would be feared...