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graphic_content 03-31-2014 04:44 PM

Will Leonardo stab somebody? Will Raph?
 
We've all seen how it goes in past iterations - Leo has swords, and Raph, sais, but neither of them were ever given any clearance to use them (in the cartoons), cause lets face it, that would end pretty violently. (unless they are robots, and nobody really cares if a robot gets cut in half - a human moreso)

Given the tone of the new film (the little we have seen), do you guys think that they'll finally put their weaponry to use? Do you even want to see that?

I for one, love the whole thing Raph does in the new Nick show, where he uses the prongs of the sai to trap an opponents arm and ultimately flip them, and considering his brawler nature in this film, seems like something that would be in line with his character.

As for Leo, while I don't really want him making a bloody mess of people, not my thing; but I would love to see some slo-mo shots of him precision cutting past and through the foot's armor to expose weak points that he eventually kicks in. precision cutting to me shows more skill than brawn.

snake 03-31-2014 04:45 PM

I can see it happening but extremely fast during a fight scene.

Candy Kappa 03-31-2014 04:52 PM

Stabbing isn't exactly the right way to use a Sai, but I wouldn't hold it against the scrip writer to not know that since most incarnations handles the Sai as a stiletto rather then an actual Sai, and Hulkael certainly looks strong enough to pierce skin, tissue, muscle and bone with just a Sai prong...

I'm sure we'll see Leo's sword get contact with the Foot, but not showing any visible cuts and they fall in such a manner the wounds won't show up directly on the screen. Similar to recent Marvel movies. There is wounds and lethal contact, but the camera don't dwell in the sight too much.

Dākunaito 03-31-2014 04:55 PM

I don't know about stabbing anyone I just hope he uses them period.

Vicky82 03-31-2014 05:00 PM

I expect if they do injure/kill any of the foot military it be on the scale like for example when Wolverine killing enemys in X-Men films and the 2 Wolverine films. Also I expect it be very quick or off screen.

MastahShredder 03-31-2014 05:02 PM

Isn't there a rumor that one of the Foot has to commit seppukku in front of Shredder?

Candy Kappa 03-31-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder (Post 1240757)
Isn't there a rumor that one of the Foot has to commit seppukku in front of Shredder?

Yeah, but apparently the da guy who leaks it also said his scene was cut from the movie. So who knows.

snake 03-31-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder (Post 1240757)
Isn't there a rumor that one of the Foot has to commit seppukku in front of Shredder?

Yes, but it wasn't confirmed. If it does happen, it'll probably be off-screen.

MastahShredder 03-31-2014 05:13 PM

If Shredder is making him do it, he must be taking it out on a failure like Tatsu did in the original.

Maybe he throws a sword in front of the kneeling soldier and it's just implied that he does it.

snake 03-31-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MastahShredder (Post 1240778)
If Shredder is making him do it, he must be taking it out on a failure like Tatsu did in the original.

Maybe he throws a sword in front of the kneeling soldier and it's just implied that he does it.

Yeah, that's probably how it'll be done. (if it's done)

Sighphi 03-31-2014 05:19 PM

It's more likely that some one is going to explode.

shuriken 03-31-2014 05:21 PM

He commits sepuku with a grenade

chrisdude 03-31-2014 05:29 PM

I'd much rather see Mikey chuck a fool in the jaw, but that's even less likely...

Andrew NDB 03-31-2014 06:56 PM

There's a little bit of cutting and Foot guys who "probably" die.

turtlefanforever 03-31-2014 06:58 PM

Considering how hard they are marketing it on Nick
 
I doubt it gets too violent.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 03-31-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1240792)
I'd much rather see Mikey chuck a fool in the jaw, but that's even less likely...

not to get off topic..but i think id rather be cut or stabbed by leo or raph then hit in the face by mike or don

TrickOrTreater 03-31-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1240766)
Yeah, but apparently the da guy who leaks it also said his scene was cut from the movie. So who knows.

Really.

I knew it.

Candy Kappa 03-31-2014 07:09 PM

Honestly, I don't think a Seppuku scene would have been appropriate in this movie. Maybe if the movie was a smarter movie, maybe they would have handled a Seppuku scene properly.

TrickOrTreater 03-31-2014 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1240916)
Honestly, I don't think a Seppuku scene would have been appropriate in this movie. Maybe if the movie was a smarter movie, maybe they would have handled a Seppuku scene properly.

There's no way they'd have a ritualistic suicide moment in a movie with Nickelodeon plastered all over the beginning of the teaser and probably future trailers.

Off screen OR on.

snake 03-31-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1240916)
Honestly, I don't think a Seppuku scene would have been appropriate in this movie. Maybe if the movie was a smarter movie, maybe they would have handled a Seppuku scene properly.

From this movie, I'd expect a Seppukui ritual with guns and shredder clawing the solider.

Coola Yagami 03-31-2014 09:00 PM

Nothing too extreme. Maybe Sachs will get a papercut while filling out paperwork.... but that's about the only blood we're gonna get to see.

Warhorse 04-01-2014 12:40 AM

It's promising. I assume they can have as much violence as the X-Men movies, and even Transformers had some quick but some gruesome deaths (Skorpinok stabbed right through that soldiers torso with his tail in plain view. It was fast, but it was there!)

And, I can always go back to my LOTR, which have beautiful and violent fight scenes.

graphic_content 04-01-2014 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisdude (Post 1240792)
I'd much rather see Mikey chuck a fool in the jaw, but that's even less likely...

Because Donnie and Mike have the weapons that cause blunt force trauma rather than lacerations, I think it's reason they featured more readily as making actual contact with any enemies.

I would love to see a foot take a chuck to the head, but more than that, I wanna see Mikey get into a battle with a 'fellow chucker' again.

Candy Kappa 04-01-2014 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1240786)
He commits sepuku with a grenade

Michael Bay style!

Lou 500 04-01-2014 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater (Post 1240919)
There's no way they'd have a ritualistic suicide moment in a movie with Nickelodeon plastered all over the beginning of the teaser and probably future trailers.

Off screen OR on.

In the nick episode Fungus Humongous there's a very, very brief moment where Leo glances at his katana while having been convinced that he failed his brothers. I think they'd get away with a guy about to stab himself in the gut before the camera cuts away in a PG-13/12-A film. Remember Joker and his pencil trick? That was in a PG-13 film too.

MastahShredder 04-01-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou 500 (Post 1241261)
In the nick episode Fungus Humongous there's a very, very brief moment where Leo glances at his katana while having been convinced that he failed his brothers. I think they'd get away with a guy about to stab himself in the gut before the camera cuts away in a PG-13/12-A film. Remember Joker and his pencil trick? That was in a PG-13 film too.

If they do it, it'll probably be like the pool stick scene. Where you know they are going to fight until the death.

Foot: What is my punishment?

*Shredder throws the sword to the kneeling Foot member, it's blade lighting up, shooting sparks and sliding on the concrete floor, stopping just before the knees.

*Foot Soldier looks up at Shredder with a face of death.

I doubt they explain seppukku, just a bone toss that'll probably be in the deleted scenes.

Sleepingseeker 04-01-2014 07:18 PM

I have no problem with them using deadly force as needed. In the comics, the early ones, at least, they had no problem taking out enemies. Now, considering what audience this movie is reaching for, which is as wide of one as possible, I doubt we'll see any graphic violence. I'm hoping it isn't too cartoony or silly, but we'll have to see.

MsMarvelDuckie 04-01-2014 07:37 PM

With the way they were tossing Foot around like rag-dolls, I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of them get skewered. Or beat to death. Even the original movie had one Foot get electrocuted! Pretty sure he didn't survive that. And then there were the ones who were unconscious when the building went up in flames. We never saw any of them being dragged out. You think Tatsu cared if they lived? I see this one doing something similar.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 04-01-2014 09:15 PM

so i was thinking about this and i dont think Leo would stab someone...despite him having one of the most dangerous weapons of the group that isnt his nature

Raph on the other hand

Iroh 04-01-2014 10:30 PM

They have to slash and stab someone because the Foot have gats now!:teek:

Warhorse 04-01-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1241734)
so i was thinking about this and i dont think Leo would stab someone...despite him having one of the most dangerous weapons of the group that isnt his nature.

Stab someone, no, that's not in Leo's nature at all. He just slices your head clean off! He's more graceful like that, you know!:D

The Boston Ninja Turtle 04-01-2014 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1241843)
Stab someone, no, that's not in Leo's nature at all. He just slices your head clean off! He's more graceful like that, you know!:D

haha...hey you gotta give the guy credit..he does it pretty effortlessly

Warhorse 04-01-2014 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1241845)
haha...hey you gotta give the guy credit..he does it pretty effortlessly

Hey, Leo is my second favorite because of that! Raph gets an edge because of his personality and the whole antihero/rebel thing he's got going. Leo is great, but he's sometimes way too much of a stiff and way too much by the book.

graphic_content 04-02-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1241845)
haha...hey you gotta give the guy credit..he does it pretty effortlessly

And it's that character I hope they carry I'm his film...that badass hero shot of him landing on the ledge, swords drawn...i nearly lost it, I thought it looked so cool.

I can definitely see him 'gracefully' cutting through guys with such precision they don't even know they've been cut until the fight is over. Anime-esque, I know, but still pretty darn cool to think about.

The Boston Ninja Turtle 04-02-2014 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by graphic_content (Post 1241903)
Anime-esque, I know, but still pretty darn cool to think about.

hey its not farfetched i mean TECHNICALLY they would be raised in japanese culture

samxsteal 04-02-2014 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1241916)
hey its not farfetched i mean TECHNICALLY they would be raised in japanese culture

and really In transformer i know they are robots and all but they pretty much rip them to shredds and in the 3rd movie they use red fluid that spatters so i could see some BA stuff happening in this movie i mean nothing like Ninja assassin or 300 but some cool stuff

graphic_content 04-02-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1241916)
hey its not farfetched i mean TECHNICALLY they would be raised in japanese culture

true, but some of the swordplay we see in anime is SO over the top its borderline ridiculous IMO - stuff like Martial Arts tricking im okay seeing in this film because high level acrobatics like that is possible in real life...

when it comes to swordplay, I always go with my go-to selection, Samurai Champloo...unorthodox (especially Mugen) but not out of the realm of possibility

The Boston Ninja Turtle 04-02-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal (Post 1241922)
and really In transformer i know they are robots and all but they pretty much rip them to shredds and in the 3rd movie they use red fluid that spatters so i could see some BA stuff happening in this movie i mean nothing like Ninja assassin or 300 but some cool stuff

well i dont think we will see blood in TMNT, Parents had issue in 1990 with weapons imagine that bucket of worms today

Transformers like you said have the advantage of being Robots...The red Goop that represents blood could be easily played off as Oil

i mean the darkest killing thing wise we see in TF3 is people getting disintegrated

samxsteal 04-02-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1242101)
well i dont think we will see blood in TMNT, Parents had issue in 1990 with weapons imagine that bucket of worms today

Transformers like you said have the advantage of being Robots...The red Goop that represents blood could be easily played off as Oil

i mean the darkest killing thing wise we see in TF3 is people getting disintegrated

yeah i was kind of surprised about that truthfully.

Warhorse 04-02-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle (Post 1242101)
well i dont think we will see blood in TMNT, Parents had issue in 1990 with weapons imagine that bucket of worms today

Transformers like you said have the advantage of being Robots...The red Goop that represents blood could be easily played off as Oil

i mean the darkest killing thing wise we see in TF3 is people getting disintegrated

Well, if it's PG-13, they really can't complain too much.

I was thinking, another movie to look back to that had some edgy scenes would be the Star Wars movies. In TPM, we do see Qui Gon get stabbed in the chest and Obi Wan slices Darth Maul right in half. And in Revenge of the Sith, there is Yoda who cuts two storm troopers heads clean off. What with this movie having the foot soldiers with full masks on, I can see Leo doing something similar.


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