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Wildcat 04-08-2014 03:38 AM

Ninja Turtle Kids?
 
How would you like a new cartoon where they're kids? Like Muppet Babies, Tom and Jerry Kids, Flintstone Kids and A Pup named Scooby Doo.

They wouldn't be babies, I just used Muppet Babies as an example of the different cartoons that have gotten the child-ization treatment. I think it could be really cool seeing them grow up and learn their skills. Humor could be similar to those other shows.

Im not saying there would be a kid version of Shredder or April since that wouldn't add up with them coming out of hiding but obviously thered have to be some bending since it can't all take place in the sewer. Maybe they'd fight playground bullies. They could go out on Halloween and pretend they're trick or treaters. Hey this could even explain them having and knowing of modern conveniences like TV.

Shark_Blade 04-08-2014 03:53 AM

I can't even stand Tom & Jerry Kids so if it's anything like that, kill it with fire.

Wildcat 04-08-2014 03:57 AM

You hate Tom and Jerry Kids?! Why? It was like alot of cartoons from that era except with Tom and Jerry.

I mean its humor was still like you would expect.

Powder 04-08-2014 04:00 AM

It almost happened but we got BTTS instead. Thank god. I would hate this.

Asha 04-08-2014 04:05 AM

I would love to see a flashback or an episode like that. A whole series wouldn't offer a lot of stories. But does sound cute as hell.

Shark_Blade 04-08-2014 04:10 AM

Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season? I believe 2k3 and OT also had this already.
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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245099)
You hate Tom and Jerry Kids?! Why? It was like alot of cartoons from that era except with Tom and Jerry.

I mean its humor was still like you would expect.

I prefer the original Tom and Jerry, where the humor and high quality animation are still in tact.

Tom and Jerry Kids look so cheap and the style just doesn't do it for me. I may vomit.

Wildcat 04-08-2014 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1245103)
Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season? I believe 2k3 and OT also had this already.

I prefer the original Tom and Jerry, where the humor and high quality animation are still in tact.

Tom and Jerry Kids look so cheap and the style just doesn't do it for me. I may vomit.

I know 2k3 and OT did episodes like this but not to its full extent.

As for Tom and Jerry kids, I can understand if you prefer the originals but to say "kids" looked cheap and it makes you wanna vomit is really exaggerated.

The animation was fine. It was on par with other cartoons of the time. How was it cheap?

@powder, I don't remember ever hearing this idea. Is there info on it?

Zulithe 04-08-2014 04:28 AM

While I think it's a cool area of the TMNT history to explore, I'd be happy if they just did a few episodes about it.

Would love if the Nick show did some kind of flashback episode to Splinter with the turtles as kids, when he first started teaching them and stuff. Maybe even have some kind of villain or problem that needs solving in the episode to give it a little more tension.

I dig the 'muppet babies' concept though, but it would obviously have to be set in its own universe... you can't just do, say, a show about the Nick turtles as kids and have it be in continuity... why? Because they don't go up to the surface and discover other mutants and the kraang until S01E01 so it limits what the show can be about DRAMATICALLY. There are some creative ways around it I guess, but still, too limiting.

At the end of the day though, even if they just had baby versions of snakeweed and leatherhead running around in the same show... while cute at first, it just makes no sense and feels weird :)

Also, relevant:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Candy Kappa 04-08-2014 04:32 AM

Ugh... Nononononono. Whenever the Kid-ified shows aired, it was time to change the channel.

Wildcat 04-08-2014 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe (Post 1245107)
While I think it's a cool area of the TMNT history to explore, I'd be happy if they just did a few episodes about it.

Would love if the Nick show did some kind of flashback episode to Splinter with the turtles as kids, when he first started teaching them and stuff. Maybe even have some kind of villain or problem that needs solving in the episode to give it a little more tension.

I dig the 'muppet babies' concept though, but it would obviously have to be set in its own universe... you can't just do, say, a show about the Nick turtles as kids and have it be in continuity... why? Because they don't go up to the surface and discover other mutants and the kraang until S01E01 so it limits what the show can be about DRAMATICALLY. There are some creative ways around it I guess, but still, too limiting.

At the end of the day though, even if they just had baby versions of snakeweed and leatherhead running around in the same show... while cute at first, it just makes no sense and feels weird :)

Well yes its own universe. I didnt mean the current Nick turtles. I just meant a general cartoon.

I liked All Grown Up. It was pretty good. Once it went full series growed was spelled correctly.

Jester 04-08-2014 04:46 AM

I wondered if the "Half Shell Heroes" figures would have a show attached...

If they did a Turtles series like Super Hero Squad, I'd be for it. It's "for kids" without de-aging the cast. (And SHS had some jokes buried deep for adult fans, too.)

Powder 04-08-2014 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245105)
@powder, I don't remember ever hearing this idea. Is there info on it?

Yep. It came a long way too but ultimately was turned down by Playmates. There's a fair bit of concept art floating around the web... I'm sure I have most of it on my hard drive but it'd take ages to find it. :P This should suffice- http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....-overload.html

http://i57.tinypic.com/riaezt.jpg

Wildcat 04-08-2014 04:55 AM

Oh thanks but that would have been with both adults and kids together...I meant just the kids going through childhood. No time travel or weirdness.

Powder 04-08-2014 05:01 AM

I know, I can read. Just sayin', the focus would have still been on kid turtles. Close enough. Either way, I don't want turtle tots of any variety, not for a whole series, anyway.

Zulithe 04-08-2014 05:12 AM

http://i.imgur.com/QaRdwnI.jpg

That would have been a funny take on TMNT... sooo many scrapped TMNT ideas over the years.

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1245111)
I wondered if the "Half Shell Heroes" figures would have a show attached...

It's true, that Half Shell Heroes thing kinda came out of the blue. It makes sense, because it is a rapidly growing segment of the toy market (Imaginext etc.) but we really don't know what Viacom/Nick has up their sleeves, they could be developing a show around it and just not announced it yet.

Wildcat 04-08-2014 05:27 AM

Just saw the Half Shell Hero toys. Didnt even know about them til now.

They're pretty cute. Gotta get me some.

The Fifth Turtle 04-08-2014 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1245103)
Aren't we getting Toddler turtles episodes this season?

I hope so. We've had the ninjas in training figures for a while now.

Eiko 04-08-2014 09:11 AM

Maybe like a mini series or something prob would not want more than that.

Warhorse 04-08-2014 02:02 PM

Im just wondering, why arevso many against a show on turtle tots? If its not your thing, fine, then just dont watch it but why so against it when others might enjoy it?

RaphAndDonnie 04-08-2014 03:14 PM

If it's something like the X-Babies, where the genre is parodied, then I wouldn't mind but I can barely stand the turtle tots so I can't say i'd watch it if it were played straight.

Tubuloso 1984 04-08-2014 03:29 PM

I just can't see what they'd do without leaving the sewer. Maybe fight against mutated turds?

pannoni1 04-08-2014 03:30 PM

Those kiddified toons appealed to a young 2-7 year old demographic that had no recognition of any other version. Muppet Babies is unique since that was targeted to the Sesame Street audience and never had an animated form in which they were standard Muppets, and even some grown-ups liked to watch the show with the children and even won some Emmys. But the others are only for little kids if they catch it before the parents say they don't recommend it. That's why Pup named Scooby Doo and Flinstones Kids were mostly watched by very young children back then, and as soon as those shows ended, it quickly became forgotten until the Web brought back the memories. That's why it works best as an episode or two for comedic effect (Incredible Shrinking Turtles). But the thing about this is that the Turtles mutated quickly into teenagers and spent their regular lifes as regular pet Turtles. Please, no kiddie series.

turtlefanforever 04-08-2014 04:07 PM

IF it was OT based
 
An OT based mini series like this I would welcome. If its like Tinytoons. They are still themselves just little versions.

BubblyShell22 04-08-2014 05:37 PM

I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

blindturtle02 04-08-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1245441)
I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

I'd like flashback eps too. Although if it was a whole series, I'd hope the continuity would be something other than 2012 because I'd like to see them leave the lair. Just not sure who they'd have as enemies if they were stuck down there as kids in the Nick continuity. I think I'd give it a go if it was made into a series.

TurtleTitan97 04-08-2014 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1245441)
I'd like some flashback episodes, but not a whole series.

^ This. A Ninja Turtles cartoon that just has them as kids seems like a bad idea.

Wildcat 04-08-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubuloso 1984 (Post 1245377)
I just can't see what they'd do without leaving the sewer. Maybe fight against mutated turds?

Uhh, train, play games, etc. It wouldn't all take place in the sewer.

snake 04-08-2014 07:13 PM

A whole series? No way! One or two flashback episodes would be okay but a whole series?

1987 04-08-2014 07:14 PM

well theres already the nick series
 
isnt the nickelodeon series suppose to be kiddy versions of the turtles? specifically nick mikey

TurtleTitan97 04-08-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1245500)
isnt the nickelodeon series suppose to be kiddy versions of the turtles? specifically nick mikey

He means as toddlers, wise guy.

victory_angel 04-08-2014 07:36 PM

I think people are also forgetting Baby Loony Toons. Loony Toon's characters living in a house and having wacky imaginative adventures Ala Muppet baby style. But making it less imaginative then MB and more children's life lesson situations.

For example in one episode Sylvester eats a whole plateful of Chocolate Chip cookies that Granny had made. Knowing Granny will be mad at them about it, the baby Loony Toons all say a monster appeared and gobbled the cookies up. Granny doesn't buy it, but plays along and says she'll just have to make more since she didn't see the monster. The baby Loony Toon's create a monster costume so they could get more cookies. While Granny pretends that she doesn't see them and continually makes cookies. Eventually they all get tummy aches and admit they made the whole monster thing up.

Personally I don't see anything like this happening with the Turtles. But there have been moments that could have been used as a good segue into flash backs in previous incarnations. For example Tales of Leo episode where Leo is practically beaten to the point where he's standing in front of deaths doggie door. And the Turtle's and Splinter all tell them moments where he had been there for them.

Similar moments could have been in the Good Genes Arc where even though Donnie is fighting a loosing battle as his mind falls more and more into the feral mind of his beastial form. The other Turtles could have maybe told him memories where he had some importance as a means of trying to keep him with them.

Or maybe a moment where maybe April or Casey come across a photo album and they pass the time looking at the photos with the turtles and Splinter mentioning memories that come across in the photos.

or maybe when they loose the lair and they feel down or lost because of it, they have a memory session to remind them of moments where things appeared hopeless. But they were able to stay strong and see things through after all as long as they all had each other, they were home.

Some flash back moments I would like to see are

Name Origin.

Weapons origin

bro-moments

Donnie as a genius.

Looking more into Splinters relationship with Shredder and Teng Shen

Wildcat 04-09-2014 01:23 AM

Yes there was also Baby Looney Tunes. I watched a few episodes but it wasn't as good as the others imo.

I was also going to include Tiny Toons because its really the same formula. Only difference is they made them separate characters with mentors.

So it seems that, on this site at least, people really hated those kid-ified shows with the exception of Muppet Babies...and Tiny Toons Im guessing, Id hope.

Well thats a shame. :ohwell:

Shark_Blade 04-09-2014 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245767)
Tom & Jerry Kids

Good Lord why
http://i.imgur.com/NIS3FF4.jpg


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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245767)
Baby Looney Tunes

Ew
http://i.imgur.com/3nJgLVl.jpg

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245767)
Tiny Toons

urgh
http://i.imgur.com/8jnQ43H.jpg


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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1245767)
Muppet Babies

*i'm so ****ing done*
http://i.imgur.com/jX7A4al.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/nH3RsGJ.jpg

Leofan26 04-09-2014 06:10 PM

The only show I enjoyed out of that bunch was A Pup Named Scooby - Doo and Muppet Babies ( Which makes no sense with the films but whatever! ) Depends I guess, none of these shows made sense so if done right, maybe???

1987 04-09-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1245502)
He means as toddlers, wise guy.

thread title reads kids. u nick fans are so sensitive

snake 04-09-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1246104)
thread title reads kids. u nick fans are so sensitive

OT only fans are so obnoxious. Read OPs first post.

1987 04-09-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1246120)
OT only fans are so obnoxious. Read OPs first post.

i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

RaphAndDonnie 04-09-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1246128)
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

For clarifaction purposes the Nick turtles are TEENAGERS not children. It is the youngest incarnation of them, sure, but they are not children.

snake 04-09-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1246128)
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

Teenage mutant ninja turtles.

victory_angel 04-09-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987 (Post 1246128)
i already did read it, nowhere on there does it say toddlers. it does say "not babies" but kids. which is what the nick turtles are, children. another step back and they will be toddlers. im surprised no one else caught this. a "kid version" of the tmnt already exists in the nick series. just accept it.

I believe they were meaning kids between the ages of 3 and 12. So in other words Turtle Tots and Turtle Tweens.

The examples of shows in that vain were

Muppet Babies and Baby Loony Toons which had well loved characters being old enough to talk to but still young enough to be considered infants so somewhere between two and three.

Tom and Jerry Kids was similar with having the same antics with normal Tom and Jerry except for the fact that Tom is a kitten not a cat, and Jerry is juvenile mouse. The rest of the cast had Spike and Droopy with their own personal mini-me's as their sons.

Flintstone Kids and A Pup named Scooby Doo-This had the classic characters from these shows all in pre-teen forms of themselves. So between 2nd and 5th grade.

While Tiny Toon Adventures had the classic Loony Toons as teachers, but the main cast were all teen-aged doppelgangers of the original Loony Toons to an extent.

There was also a short lived show known as Yo Yogi! which had Yogi, Booboo, Cindy, Snagglepuss, Huckelberry hound, other HB characters as teenagers. But other characters such as Doggy Daddy, Adam Ant, and Hokey Wolf appear as normal Adults.


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