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The NEW Official Trailer Discussion
Important: This new thread was created due to the original being so full of bickering that it was beyond recovery. Discussion and debate is fine, but any and all fighting/insulting will result in Severe discipline. I and the staff will not allow the forum to get in such a poor state again. You have been warned.
First Trailer: Brothers TV Spot: Okay, so after much waiting, we Finally got the official trailer to look at. A lot of controversy has come up in terms of Eric Sachs, with his ties to April's father, his "creating heroes" line in the first trailer, not to mention that giant wall scroll that's got some really weird looking images on it. And what about the voices now? The Brother's TV Spot gives us our (possible) first soundbite of Splinter's voice, and a partial view of what he looks like - is his necklace of jade or a vial of ooze? What's with the weird hair and fu manchu beard? What kind of Splinter are we going to have based on what we've seen so far? I'm sure many of you have a lot more questions, and as we get new trailers and movie spots, you'll be able to speculate and make your own theories... |
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Okay, we're going to do this one day at a time.. have fun, and play nice. :)
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I'll go first, I'm really weirded out by the sound of Splinter's supposed voice. I am in the "this film is gonna suck" camp, but trying to stay open-minded in hopes their fresh spin on things will spark some new tmnt love and better incarnations, but Splinter is giving me a bad vibe. Hair, voice, clothes... Idk.
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watching the trailer and the sliding down the snowy hill, part of me wonders how Donatello is sliding so smoothly
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I liked both trailers one from the view point on shedder and the other from splinter, Tony's voice actually sounds really really good to me. Now lets get one from the view point of Leo :)
Edit: I can't help but think splinters bout to whoop some butt, really fluid movement this ain't no old and feeble rat :) |
Yay! Movie discussion is opening up again!
But, regarding the trailer, as I've already said, I'm cautiously excited about what I've seen and what this movie has for us, and am excited to see more. |
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The Yoda-esque fight though should be cool to watch. Quote:
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Are you going to wipe our butt's too? I wasn't even part of any argument but this place is starting to feel like a playpen.I'm compelled to voice my opinion that the moderating is too extreme. Much love for the hard work to keep the place running, all else aside.
To be positive and on topic, I'd like to mention that I absolutely love Mikey's design. I'm not sure I've voiced that yet and I've seen mostly a negative response from it around here. Yeah, I could do without the overbearing nose, but the color scheme, pants, and bandana are all visually appealing to me. It sort of remind's me of how spectacular the alien designs were in District 9. I loved the clothing and color's they picked out for "Christopher", the main alien/prawn. |
I don't like what I'm seeing for the most part. What I do like are tiny things like Shredders new suit or the new lair.
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Well, to put it simply.
*I do not like the look of the Turtles, particularly Mikey's face. I can't help it, the nose/nostrils thing is hideous to me, especially for a character like Mikey who is the one that calls himself 'The Cute One' as well as being the Baby Brother of the group. *I don't like the Look of the CGI, it's not 100% believable to me. *I feel that Raphael (my favorite character) is too much like a giant, and it does seem like he is just acting like an Incredible Hulk. It would be nice if he has actual full-on Martial Arts sequences (roundhouse kicks, rabbit punches, MMA takedowns, jump kicks) but so far, it just seems like actions that The Hulk would do in The Avengers...and so far nothing they've shown has dissuaded my feelings that it won't just be that. *I don't like the fact that, so far, they haven't shown any of the Martial Arts Fighting skills of the Ninja Turtles, or any of the 'The Raid/Fist of Legend' influenced fight sequences that the makers have said repeatedly (which can be done in PG-13...even Jason Statham films like The Transporter movies did that with the PG-13 rating...and I do feel that if you have a teaser and a tv spot, that at least a hint could have been shown...especially since it is only a few months until the film comes out. Showing an ounce of it would not ruin the film because hopefully there should be Many fight scenes, and would also make for better marketing). *If the film is really about the bond between the Ninja Turtles, and the film has scenes of the Turtles bonding with each other and having 'real, family moments' (whether it be them making fun of each other, talking with each other, ribbing each other, etc.) then hints of that should be shown. *I was never a fan of William Fichtner, and this does nothing to change my mind on that matter. *I still have a bad feeling that it will be Megan and Will Arnett, the Movie. *And if people disagree, that is fine. These are just my opinions. |
I know i really don't need to post (most people know im loving what i've seen)
But here we go. Im loving just about everything -I love Shredders Armor(even the dreaded bladed cape) I just think he look menacing -I love Fichtner as an actor and really when i heard he was cast it was one thing i thought people wouldn't complain about but what ever. -I love the lair the whole thing screams TMNT to me lived in Teenaged sewer dwelling (pizza sofa and all) -I love the Turtles actors all of them(sad to see Pete Ploszek recast) I think they all fit the characters perfectly Pete and Alan are about the same height and build as i would imagine those two would be I love Noel as mikey i think he was a perfect choice funny energetic and a talented actor. Jeremy Is also a perfect don IMO i love his characters in countless movie as soon as i heard he was cast i thought it was perfect. -I love the look of the turtles Personally Love the Realism/ mutant look. I think mikey looks great. Leo is perfect Like raph want to see more, and even Donnie seem pretty great IMO, i cant wait to see them all in action fully. I like the character they put into how they dress some say cluttered i say expressive. I also love splinter very IDW and even Tony as the voice sound great from what i have heard. (i am sad to see Danny pushed aside) Also there size did the math leo and raph are only about 6' tall, so those worried about their "huge height" can calm down. - I love the stunt groups working on the movie these people are very talented and while we haven't seen much action i cant wait to see what they do and it should be great if these people are any indication -I love they they are drawing from Multiple sources wolf, Mirage, IDW, Nick, and 2k3. -Love that we are finally getting a movie version of the turtle van LOVE IT. -I love the wolf added character Vernon and Bernadette i can wait to se come nod to the wolf show. - I was super worried about Megan fox as April trust me when i say i was mad. But as i calmed down, and info started to come out Shes a fan, and she isn't going to be overly sexualized and say what you will about her acting but movies she has been in (that shes not just some side character) she acts decent and i personally think she will do fine as April. -I love the Fact that they kept TCRI -I am awaiting 100% confirmation that Baxter is in the movie i have a feeling that there will be other mutants. But that's just a hunch. I love both trailers, But i love the splinter trailer most and i love his monolog gets me hyped every time "BROTHERS" hehehehehehe |
My opinion
I enjoyed both trailers. After seeing the first one I had problems speaking for about 3 days, screaming like a 12 year old girl through the entire thing. I must say I liked the Brothers TV spot more. I absolutely love Splinters design and his Voice. Its a little different, but has that wise tone to it. It just fits for me. The little hints of fight action from Don and Raph make me really want to see the intense fight scenes this film will supposedly offer. I love all of the nods to the past iterations. The little hints in the trailer like the scroll and the TCRI canister. I wonder how it will all play out. I think for the first time in twenty years I actually felt that creeped out feeling from my first look at Leo when he landed on the brick wall. I had that same feeling as a kid when I watched the film. The part where Raph screamed in the lair after realizing that Splinter had been kidnapped. That scared me as a 6 year old. The updated look that these new Turtles have, brought that same feeling back but in its own way. I think they should be freaky looking as they are mutant/humanoid turtles. The joke at the end was spot on. It wasn't dirty or offensive, it was a clean innocent joke. Good ol TMNT humor. I hope the film will have a good balance of Action/grittiness/humor and suspense. Im hoping for a good story with some new intriguing twists. Ive heard rumors from a few people online that we might be getting our first theatrical trailer on the 5th of may. Its a "rumor" but I would be ecstatic if we got a new trailer on the 5th, the 30th anniversary of the TMNT franchise. A full two and a half minute trailer! Fingers crossed. I am so excited to see this film. Im excited to relive that same overflowing joy and excitement I felt as a child watching the first film. The thought of sequels with new villains makes me even more excited. My brother was killed in Afghanistan in late July of 08. Every year around that time things get a little rough for me and my other brothers. It may sound ridiculous but at least now I have a film like this to take some of the sting out. Im thankful for it.
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I was all sorts of "good" nostalgic when watching both trailer my wife is rolling her eyes when ever i talk about this movie which is often lol. all my friends are in the same boat as me and we cant wait to see the movie. |
Ok, I'll be honest on several things, both positive and negative. Believe it or not, the negative isn't that much, it just holds a lot of weight for me.
So, here goes. I like Megan Fox, so have no issues with her playing April. I like the fact that the story is going to be different instead of the same damn this I have seen now, what, 2, 3 times now. So, if I go to see this movie, the story will be unpredictable for me. I don't mind William Fichtner playing The Shredder. I still think he's the real Oruku Saki's primary henchman for the NYC faction, and the real Saki is still back in Japan. I don't mind how big the Turtles are, and I really don't mind that they are super strength and we haven't seen any ninja stuff yet, but the ninja stuff was never the reason why I was a fan of the Turtles to begin with. It was their personalities and their willingness to help people in trouble, although those same people might not be so kind to them. They could scrap the Ninja and have them the Teenage Mutant Brawling Turtles (and it won't be that far off since my favorite Turtle is the known brawler of the group) and as long as they have the personalities in tact, I am ok with it. What do I not like. The faces. I just don't like the fugly faces. I like my Turtles cute and cuddly. I don't have a problem with the clothes and extra apparel, and I'm actually digging Raph's full head bandana. It kind of reminds me of the Harley Davidson bikers I hang out with, and if he has his signature motorcycle in here, all the merrier. But damn, why did they have to make the faces so cruddy. It puts a damper on the whole damn thing for me.:cry: |
Well might as well throw my hat in the ring... I don't like how the Turtles look, for starters, Raph and Mikey in particular. The action scenes look cool though. I don't care that the Turtles are super buffed up, as long as the enemies they fight are at least as tough. If, however, they only end up fighting weaponised Foot Soldiers and Shredder, well... :ohwell:
As for Splinter, I like his design but I don't like his voice. I'm not a fan of him not having an Asian accent. I really hope they make him Yoshi's pet instead of being Yoshi, so that they can at least have some sort of excuse for it. I also think that that's a jade necklace and not a vial of ooze. Shredder...ugh. Design wise he's OK. I only have nitpicky complaints in that department. I don't like how he's whitewashed and I don't like Sachs as of yet. I really hope the thing with him and April's father makes me like him better. |
I am loving what I see so far the only thing that scares me is that I really hope it not another Raph/Leo movie like the last. and have Don and Mike pushed in the background they are part of the team as well.
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Now, will the makers of the film do that? Personally, I'm very doubtful about that. |
I don't understand the "Splinter should have an Asian accent" thing. I've always just heard him as an older sounding man and not a specific accent. If you go with the origin where Splinter was yoshi's pet, he learns to speak after being mutated in the sewers of New York so I think he would have an American accent. If you go with the origin that Yoshi IS Splinter, it makes more sense but if you really want to get technical, wouldn't he be speaking Japanese? I think his voice in this teaser sounds good! He sounds a lot like he did in the 80s show.
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I don't like the turtles being mini hulks as it forces you to make evrything else over the top to match them. Not really a fan of using absurd technology for Don if it isn't really explained where he got it, It was my gripe in each cartoon as well. I don't like the too humanoid faces for the Turtles or in Raph's case too mamalistic looking. I don't mind the aacesseries but some of them I highly question. *cough* glasses Don/Raph*cough* I hate Shredder's armor as I still can't believe a ninja master can fight in that without be blindsighted and I'm not too thrilled about the story angle since some form of revenge has existed in the TMNT even the OT version however small a role it played. What I do like is the voices are what I've heard of them so far. The action scenes look ok but to grand for a ninja battle. The turtle van is cheesy but ok but I hate its has the name "Shellraiser" would've preferred an original name. Comedy might be there hopefully and not overly vulgur otherwise I wouldn't classify it as a family movie. |
Horrendous creature design aside, looking at the second trailer, it seems they have given Raph a nose job. When he orbits that soldier his nose looks more reptilian then mammal compared to the earlier designs used for the promotional poster and toy packaging.
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I am putting a lot of effort into trying to like what is being put on display here. Some of it I dig a lot, like Shredder's suit. Others, like the look of the Turtles, I am having a hard time with.
I really need more information to form any stronger opinions. I will be seeing it on opening day no matter what. The music in the second trailer (the electronic sounding background stuff) is something I'm digging though. I hope that is a hint at what the score will be like. |
If the movie turns out to be Robo Geisha kind of bad, I'd love to see it, but not for $20 ticket price.
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I've spent $20 on worse :P This movie is definitely worth spending $20 on just to be part of the discussion, good or bad.
We don't get a new live action TMNT movie often. I think most of us here, as fans, need to experience it in the best way -- on a nice big screen with a full audience! That is the best way we can judge it and put it into perspective For this reason I am hoping they release it on IMAX, anyone heard any info about that? P.S.... if you see the movie in 3D... there are special glasses coming out http://i.imgur.com/6xqdX4m.jpg Who will be collecting all 4? :) Heck even if you do not like the movie designs these should appeal to just about every TMNT fan because they are fairly universal looking |
hey I hope these glasses come out internationally!!I would love to get at least one of them;)..I was bumped about many of the things presented about this movie and had a very horrible imagination of what this film will be like at first but then with time eased out in places, felt more comfortable with various gripes of mine as I had a clearer second look...not all is to my liking if they turn out in the end the way I am imagining them now but I can live very well with a new version on the big screen.the exciting thing is:it happens again.turtles commin to theaters.this is something amazing that should be cherrished I think and as long as there is REALLY a team behind the cameras that KNOWS the history of the tmnt well and truly care to make a great MOVIE meaning a story with characters taht you can care about then I am thrilled with no end;)...sadly Ill have to wait until october to see it but for american turtles fans its only three more months now.
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hope the rumours of a 30th anniversary full trailer turn out to be true!!! I am sorry to hear about the loss of your brother!I know what its like too, I have lost two sisters in the past 10 years and last summer my mother died.the day she called me from the hospital to tell me where she is was august the 8th and now this movie comes out on exactly that date...hmmm... |
Here I go into the line of fire... :lol:
As for the live-action trailer, my predictions about this movie being a much darker version than we (the fandom) have experienced seems to somewhat still be holding up: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...83#post1207383 I don't necessarily mind this level of darkness, but as my post mentioned before, if it doesn't address some of the practicality/logic issues, people won't take the movie as seriously as it apparently wants to be taken and it will be an unintentional parody of itself. I don't know... :ohwell: Seeing Leonardo land on the concrete ledge creating an impacting dust cloud, and Raphael being used as a wrecking ball against a military Humvee (a turtle shell against armor used for IEDs) is just screaming an excessive amount of action "loudness" to me at the expense of a dark-oriented plot. I mean aren't ninjas supposed to be quiet and stealthy? Poor Raph, his brute strength is being taken to such an extreme level that he's being used as a wrecking ball. LOL, with Leonardo's landing, I'm sure the residents in the building could hear him 3-4 floors underneath him, so much for being part of the "shadows". As for how these four are gonna fit in the TurtleVan, LOL... Of course, and as always, this could all change when the movie is actually released, but for now... honestly... I couldn't stop laughing at the trailer. William Fitchner's vocal narration/introduction was so cliche and hilarious, I mean the "high rise in crime in our great city" speech could easily be interchangeable with any other superhero movie. One thing that is actually an interesting twist for me is seeing how April's father and Shredder/Eric Sachs are somehow associated with each other in "creating" the Turtles. Hearing how they are using Johnny Knoxville's voice for Leonardo now, and how they are still refilming some scenes (according to Alan Ritchson) after a budget of $125 million... yeah... I'm not having much confidence in this film. Ever since this movie's beginnings, it has all been a messy production. It seems that this production staff is struggling to put something cohesive (like a big tape job) with a hodgepodge of elements they have. As examples, the Turtle designs, the script writing of the past, Bay being shifted from director to producer, voice over changes, etc rather than some confident, firm concept or idea of where they want to take the Turtles and their character development. Then again, this is a Bay film, so expecting this level of depth is a joke and it will probably be like most Bay films, a superficial "bad ass" violent film with a thin plot and thinner characters, which will be massively successful as a perfect "turn off your brain" summer flick. Then again all those setbacks could all be nothing but a PR ploy just to keep us talking, LOL.:lol: I mean the public is more interested in talking about a train wreck rather than something going smoothly, so all my logic could be turned right on its head.:lol: |
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Well, if it's all a PR ploy...it's the best one in the history of films. So it's either that or the train wreck, take your pick :lol: |
Well.. i think your right. People in the press and folks on the inter webs have been talking about this film since 09. Within the last couple of years the interest has really kicked into high gear and as you all probably have heard the trailer got more views than any other trailer for any film out this year.. 31.4 Million views in its first week. Some say it was people watching the trailer over and over but i tried that and it only counts once by IP address i believe. Even if it was possible that's an INSANE amount of views for one week regardless of what people try to take away from it. And if you can watch a trailer more than once than that goes for all trailers but some will go to the ends of the earth to take away Anything positive in regards to this film. So i agree with you, Either its an unintentional train wreck, or the best PR job in history. I think that the HIGH level of interest will translate into high ticket sales bc when you think about it, most of the people that spend a ton of time blogging and posting on forums and youtube comment columns Facebook pages etc whether its negative or positive have invested so much time and energy and emotion into this film that they will most likely see it. It will be interesting to see what happens after August 8th. I wonder if the next trailer will create even MORE excitement/uproar.. In my eyes its all good
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I do like the mood of the lighting and the colors in the trailer, it have a very dark but comic-like feel, almost a hint of Zack Snyder.
The voices of Raph, Don and Mikey sounds pretty good for their character, the other voices we've heard so far... Eh, not really a fan, but I'm sure they'll do. Creature design aside, they look for the most part well integrated into the scenes, I'm sure it'll be more polished with it comes out, but PD do make good looking moves despite being good or bad. The Nightmare on Elm Street remake was atrocious, but it looked very good. The look of the Van, the rocket skateboard looks a bit out of place with the overly human-realistic creature designs and the overall grit of the bad guy soldiers looking, almost looks like it's from two different movies. I am curiosity what the conflict will be and the origin, and if there is more to Shredder then meets the eye, but. I'm not holding my breath. Quote:
But. Now I have limited spare time, a HUGE loan to pay off and the majority of my salary goes to rent and bills, which means I have to save chucks of my salary to even manage to pay when the tri-monthly student loan bill arrives, cause it's more the what I have left after rent. And, I have no interest to watch a bad movie the cinema as it is far more fun to watch it in an environment where you can joke and laugh of the movie with your friends without bothering people that actually likes the moves. If the movie is good, eh, I might see it in theaters. I did see the Imagi flick on its last day, so I was the only one in the entire room. But 3-D glasses are usually not too pricey, so I might grab a pair. |
I like where they are going with the characteristics of each turtle in terms of design but I think it's overkill. It does get me extremely excited for what it could possibly means in terms of fight/action. I think we will appreciate that each turtle fights in their own way according to their personalities though overkilled in the designs.
Leo- most disciplined and follows teachings by the book is in tuned both physically and mentally, his fighting will be the closest thing to a "ninja" graceful and deadly. Raph- Aggressive just wants to Rip Sh!t up. Mostly trains himself physically and as a result he's jacked, straight up muscle of the team. Don- all mental hence all the inventive gadgets. I think they are going to go for a batman approach trained fighter assisted with a high tech arsenal. If done right it will be awesome. Mike- He'll just toy with his opponents. It would n't be as interesting if the turtles fought the same way just with different weapons. Gives me an impression that they are going to hit on one of my hopes for the movie which is fighting/ action. At the end of the day I just want a good story which executes the family bonding and fighting of the turtles. |
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Visually, the movie looks great! If you watch the trailer again but focus on the surroundings instead of the foreground action you notice the beautiful mix of colors and production detail. The way the colors reflect of of the clouds behind Leonardo make it a beautiful shot. In contrast, the snow scenes are desaturated and grey. It's bright but still has a dark mood. It really is a good looking movie visually. I think that after sitting through the movie for a bit, the turtle designs won't stand out as much.
The second trailer is my favorite. I wish they had released that one first. With Splinter's narration being a lesson to the turtles, it actually feels more like a ninja turtles movie than the Sachs narrated one. Also I like how they did some re-edits to make scenes like the humvee crash and Mikey's face reveal shorter and therefore less silly. I know they probably did these edits mostly because it's a 30 second teaser, but the way it was cut just worked better for me. |
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I come back and all the interesting people are banned, atleast i take sollace that someone finaly put FellowChucker down, i hate that guy with a passion. |
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