Amazing Spider-Man 2 Review And Discussion(Be Warned of Probable Spoilers)
 

To start off the thread I will throw out a couple of articles for fellow Spider-Man fans to look at however be careful with the second one. Going into the film do you think too much is known about it and what lies ahead after the film? Its just the age of social networking but also a tight rope of either chasing people away who want a surprise or drawing in more viewers. After I see the film next week I will post a review on here and welcome any others to do the same. Until atleast a week to ten days after tis release I ask much of the movie talk be in spoiler form. Also, what do you think of the character chosen to be involved? Too many or ones you would have rather have seen included? Also feel free to discuss who you think would be included in a Sinister Six movie and how that and Eddie Brock can hold a film with minimal Spider-Man or how Spider-Man would work into it especially since the Sony studio only has the Spider-Man brand to combat Venom and the Sinister Six and Garfield is only contracted with the studio for three films of Spider-Man not spinoff or a fourth film,atleast at the moment.
This is the cast on Good Morning America talking about the world premiere in London and about the franchise and what to expect.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-2-star-698742

If you want to be spoiled go ahead but if you want to wait until you see the film DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK!
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/04/...xternal,manual

Go ahead and start pinning threads of web,true believers love it or hate its sure to be a wild ride!

Saw this weeks ago. Not bad, but nothing spectacular either, better than the first Webb movie though despite all the flip-flopping and jarring tonal shifts in this one. At least it's a breezier Spidey flick

Can you without spoiling explainng the sudden tone shifts? Weeks ago? I thought it had been ten days since the Britian and Austriallia premire.

Here is an interesting article for fellow Spidey fans.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...shows-20140429

Be careful of spoilers but if its cool or you have seen it here a bit about Norman Osborn.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Amazi...Egg-42817.html

More news on a Sinister Six film. A solo Venom film is plausible but a Sinster Six film without Spider-Man?
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Sinis...ary-42798.html

I thought it was a great film, finally a good Spider-man film!!!

Nope.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...Broke-MovieBob

I liked the movie, but this guy gets it SPOT on. I bet you anything this won't hold up in five years let alone ten.

Saw it earlier tonight. Easily the worst Spider-Man movie IMO and I hated Spider-Man 3.

This was Batman & Robin levels of bad.

Terrible writing and acting. Things were either extremely rushed or just terrible ideas to begin with. Even the action scenes were a big disappointment to me.

*watches MovieBob's review (thanks for that BTW, I was thinking it'd be Friday...) and hopes beyond hope that Liebsman's TMNT doesn't leave me in a similar state.

I must be from a different planet or something! What are you people expecting from movies? Seriously? I enjoyed this waaaaaaaaaay more than the first amazing and leaps and bounds more than the spiderman 3! Just out of interest, what films do you actually think are good?

I just saw it, much better than the first movie. It had it's stupid moments, but overall it was fun and very engaging. I didn't much care for this take on Electro and his presence felt wasted. The Richard Parker subplot was also a letdown. Aside from those 2 big things, everything else was great.

On some level, it is has a more raw and comics-paced approach to storytelling, but that can be a pain in the arse running time wise as it means characters routinely flip-flop and can't settle on what to do until it's too late. That works in a monthly book or a trade paperback but can be irritable in a multi-hour run time. These soap opera cliches hurt more logical storytelling approches. I don't pay to see a movie where the hero stands entirely still on a variety of subjects.

For me it was an enjoyable, glorified licensing expo thinly disguised as a movie. It's not attrotcious, but it did leave me feeling the brand can be diluted to dangerous levels.

Oh, yeah. Does anybody know what's up with the post credit scene? I've heard there was one from multiple sources and got nothing.

In some markets they're just showing a clip from X-Men: Days of Future Past.

And it's not some hint at something. It's just a deal because Marc Webb owed Fox a movie. It's an advertisement/make good.

The thing that was supposed to be a mid-credits stinger thing was moved up into the movie itself sorta like Incredible Hulk.

Yeah, I know that much about X-Men. It was a mid-credits scene. I guess that makes sense considering what the scene was.

I'm still a little confused... I searched for info on the post credits scene when I got home and got this 2 month old spoiler that was rumored to be the post credits scene along with two images. I find it hard to believe it was faked, maybe it was cut? Or is it just a joke, considering the connection the article makes to Disney? Sorry if this is old news, I haven't really been searching for spoilers or keeping up with the film other than the trailers.

There are images during the first part of the credits that alludes to the Sinister Six.

Okay, here are my thoughts on the film. Actually, before I go into that, I'll enlighten you a little on my history with Spider-Man. I'm an avid comic reader of Spider-Man, but I was never REALLY into any of the TV shows. Also, just to let you all know, I preferred Marc Webb's first movie over Sam Raimi's movies, because I preferred the cast, their take on the story, and it stayed truer to the comics while trying to keep things interesting and fresh.

A year ago, I stopped watching trailers for movies since they spoiled so much. I stopped looking up info about them online. Made sure to avoid TV spots and clips on the internet. EVERYTHING! Tried to stay away. And that's what I did with this film, and I'm super glad I did. It made the whole movie experience so much better (especially since I didn't 'feel like I've seen the whole movie').

So, anyway, here are my thoughts. I really enjoyed this movie. In the beginning, to me at least, it was kind of slow. But then there was one certain scene where it just clicked for me, and from then on, I enjoyed the movie a whole lot more. (Not saying I didn't like the beginning, I really did, it's just I became truly invested in it at this certain point.) Really liked the fights, Max's character, and I really thought the portrayal of Harry was spot on from the comics (anyone agree?). Overall, really good movie, and I think I enjoyed it better than the first one. Even if I knew certain parts or aspects were coming, the movies portrayal of the scenes were done so well where you still got surprised, excited, or emotionally invested. That was cool.

So, I really liked it. I think even loved it (have to see it again to know for sure). More than all the other Marvel movies (maybe not Avengers), but that may just be because I'm biased and really love Spider-Man. I suggest to ignore the critics and go see this movie, critics don't know what they're talking about half the time.

I really liked the villains in this one (preferred them over The Lizard). I think they balanced it out well, too. Definitely not as bad as Spider-Man 3 (at least from the average person who rates movies on IMDb. ASM2's rating may go down [since movies usually do after a few weeks], but I'm pretty sure it's not going to drop to the rating of Spider-Man 3.)

I'm actually hoping that, eventually, (maybe not in the third film) we get the Ultimate Spider-Man treatment, if you know what I mean. I think that would be really cool. And I'll touch on my thoughts on a Sinister Six and Venom film below.

Actually, even way before this film was out and these two movies were announced, I was super pumped for Sinister Six. I actually think it's going to be a harder time making a entertaining film focusing solely on Venom (I'm sure it'll end up being a military movie, and ... eh. I may like it, may not, but it all depends.) I think, if the writing is done right, a Sinister Six film with no Spider-Man may actually be sweet. Like, really cool. Marvel films and superhero films in general haven't really majorly focused on the villian's, and seeing a movie of a team would be sweet.

It all depends on how well it's written, though, and how the team comes together and the chemistry between them. It may be something super special. The only question is what exactly they're fighting, but that aspect is something that really intrigues me.
Agreed ... sorta. The reveal wasn't as big as I was hoping, but it still satisfied me enough that I felt it was worth my time investing in the whole subplot.

This looks like it could have been an extra part that was edited out. Because that EXACT picture frame never happened, and I don't recall seeing that certain something ever in the background. But I've heard they ended up cutting A LOT from this movie, so this was probably a piece. Really hoping we get a Directors Cut DVD/Blu-Ray version.

I liked the film.

I liked the movie I did but I got issues with it I wouldn't say its a great movie but no where near a bad one like Spider-Man 3 was. certain aspects felt rushed just thrown in there because we have got to get to the other movies like I was watching a bunch of trailers or something maybe some ****** tie-in comic. I know that doesn't make a lot of sense but its the only way I can describe it. After the movie ended I just expected more and it just never gave it. The whole film felt completely anti-climatic.

I think for the most part what kept me from not liking it was how well the movie was casted. Andrew Garfield to me is the best version of Spider-Man we have had on live action screen. Jamie Foxx while I'm not a big fan of this version of Electro I did feel did a good job. Sally Field is also a much better Aunt May. As always Emma Stone was amazing. Gwen and Peter moments were some of the best moments in the movie. I hope they can do as good a job with the casting of MJ as they did with Gwen in the next movies. Harry on the other hand his performance was just odd and the fact that he just kept contradicting himself. I don't know maybe it was not the actors fault and more on the writing and directing of the character but Harry just felt off like he shouldn't have been in the movie at all or at the very least the villain.

I liked the movie but its not going down in history as one of the best comic movies of all time.

Batman and Robin bad? I don't think so. That movie is really unwatchable and about as bad as at least the Mortal Kombat 2 movie.

I thought Electro was coolest when he was actually using his powers. Otherwise he was one of those obvious nerdy invisible to everyone kind of person. There just wasn't that much character to him.

Fair is fair electro didn't have that much of character in the original origin story in the first place. He was an electrician that got electrocuted one day while working on some wires and then one accident later he was electro. The dudes cake at the beginning of the movie had yellow lightning with green stripes, the colors of the original costume.

I liked the Harry in this one. Dude was showing a nice evil side without trying too hard, kind of wished for more scenes with him outside of the makeup. I also didn't really see him as evil quite up and until his "transformation".

I liked this movie and the first, but not better than the first two Raimi made, especially the second one. Those where done by a guy who knew the Spiderman universe and comic books in general. At the end of the day this is my opinion, so I could care less if people hate this summer movie I even like the billionth Stan Lee appearance in it.

J.K. Simmons played the best out of the Raimi Trilogy.

Meh...

First, I'll say that The Amazing Spider-Man is my favorite Spider-Man movie. But this movie is kinda dumb. Lots of cliches and writing on the walls - for people who don't think too good. There's even a moment when a character's internal dialogue is sung in lyrics of the film score. This movie beats you on the head with everything, instead of expecting you to figure anything out.

I LOVE their take on Electro, but I hate that Peter is so tied up with his own things, that there's hardly a relationship between him and that villain. Electro is just a guy who Peter crosses paths with. To me, the movie really drags, but so much of the important stuff seems rushed. I think there's a time management problem.

I can deal with the corny dialogue and incredible conveniences. But, it's a very Batman Forever-y transition from the last film to this one.

Yeah ... That was really stupid and took me out of the moment.

Just saw it. It was fine, but nothing extraordinary, at least for me.

I thought the ending was painfully stupid in how it lead into Spidey's big return with that little kid. Nevermind the fact that there were people just standing around to watch the chaos unfold like it was some spectacle and not something that's, yunno, life-threatening to them. But all it took was one kid getting into line of fire for everyone to go, 'Oh now this is a bad thing!'

"Hey, Bob. Do you think it'd be wiser to run away while some crazy guy in a mech-rhino suit is wrecking s*** up so we don't endanger ourselves?"

"Nah, nah, it's okay. Spidey just showed up, so everything's cool and that should make us all feel safe now!"

EDIT: Kind of meant to put all of this in spoiler tags, but didn't. Though is it worth spoiling if it's nothing really crucial aside from being the ending?

The Batman & Robin comparisons aren't off... it definitely felt that way in some of the goofier parts.

Motivations for the villains are some of the most baffling i've ever seen in a marvel movie.

I think I preferred Raimi's Spidey 3 to this.

One thing that was left open in the film and I was not expecting was it seemed Ravencroft Institute was trying a secret takeover of Oscorp.Who exactly and why?

Hey guys, here's a petition to get an Amazing Spider-Man 2 directors cut. I highly recommend signing, since there was a WHOLE bunch of stuff that ended up being cut. I've heard the film was over 3 hours originally (maybe even from this thread).

http://www.change.org/en-AU/petition...-and-dvd#share

I'm with you 100%

EASILY the best Spiderman movie yet.
Sure there were moments of WTF throughout, but getting the character right for a change? That won me over in TASM and even more so here.

It looked incredible, used 3D in the best possible way, and was surprisingly heartfelt.

I loved the fact that it wasn't all about the villains, and focused on the being Spider-man.

Where MOS got it wrong, this film won me over. He was heroic (if at times a little dull for a supposed genius) and there boat loads of heart.

Spectacular action, playful fight scenes, it was great.

Can't understand the hate.

Signed! thanks for the post!

I'm a little worried about this film at the box office. Supposedly, they wanted it to make over a billion dollars, yet, it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Some predict this will make the least amount of money of all Spider-Man films so far.

Will this put a stop in Sony's plans for a Amazing Spider-Man 3, Venom film, and Sinister Six film? Do you think they still see Spider-Man as a money maker?

That's two movies, and they still aren't making the money the original trilogy did. They must be questioning their decision to reboot. But, it's hard not to see the potential in the franchise...

I do wonder if this will effect their plans. They need to get rid of the Orci/Kurtzman writing duo. That was a mistake, IMO.

They don't know what they are doing, you can see studio clifnotes all over this movie, they are pasted all over the screen. Here watch it, watch what we have done, watch how smart we are, you are going waaaaaaatchhh itttt......

Doesn't surprise me that this isn't performing at the BO like they expected. Word of mouth will only continue to hurt its performance plus the fact that it faces Neighbors, Godzilla and DOFP in consecutive weeks. I hope this scraps their plans to expand/continue with this particular movie universe.

Sony needs to dump Arad as producer, get a director that isn't a yes-man and don't even consider letting Kurtzman/Orci near this. That or sell the rights back to Marvel.

Agree. I love that they followed the comic's story about Gwen's death. Gwen Stacy in Spiderman 3 was so pointless.

Even Tobey Maguire as an actor was godawful. I hate everything about him as he doesn't portray Peter Parker or Spiderman AT ALL - the way he talks mumbling like an idiot, the way he acts is so gross, just ugh.

Thank God we have Andrew Garfield now.

http://i.imgur.com/ABU7SO2.jpg

You should really put spoiler tags on

Garfield and Gwen are seriously miscast, they act fine but the way they look...
They are f***ing super model's and they are suposed to be nerds?

Why would I? Gwen's death is already in the books.. like since 1973. It's common knowledge tbh.

http://i.imgur.com/irAPahs.jpg

Similar examples:
Les Miserables
http://i.imgur.com/Ni2CPdE.gif
http://i.imgur.com/zP2Tftt.gif

Hobbit
http://i.imgur.com/SNJyYfI.gif
http://i.imgur.com/vdc5wCf.gif


Can't good looking people be nerds too? :-?

More power to them tbh.

They are not just pretty, they are super model pretty, they are clothed like super models, they have hair like super models.
http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-con...gwen-stacy.jpg
look at them, they are like out of some fashion magazine.

Gwen was never a "nerd". Smart, yes. Nerdy? HECK no! (There's a REASON she was one of the most popular girls on campus in the comics! She was HOT!!) Of course, the same could not be said for Peter.

Haven't seen this yet, but plan to- though from what I'm seeing here, it sounds like more of the same from the previous one. While I like Sally's take on May, and I enjoyed Uncle Ben and Gwen in the last one, Garfield's Peter just never struck me as especially true to the character. I've been an avid Spidey fan for YEARS, and he just felt "off" somehow. He wasn't as overtly nerdy as MaGuire's was, and though he managed to get Spidey's banter down (for which I have the writers to thank, not him), he was just too bland. No heart. The best thing about the last film was how they went into the background with Peter's parents, using an adaptation of the comic storyline. However, so far, I haven't felt like any of the villains are especially threatening. Lizard was big and vicious, but was mainly just a smaller and slightly smarter Hulk, IMHO. We'll see how the villains in this one turn out, but for now, I will only be seeing it because I love Spidey and am just happy to see him on the screen again.

Here's your typical cliche "nerd" look complete with glasses and hands me down jacket/clothes. Not so supermodel now huh?

http://i.imgur.com/ey9fCna.jpg

Apparently anyone with glasses is a passable nerd nowadays*facepalm*

Jessica Alba (Sue Storm in Fantastic Four 2) wow am I intelligent looking now? I'm a scientist..
http://i.imgur.com/ltzlaI3.jpg

Donnie TMNT 2014 (glasses, cause he's the nerd..) :trolleye: not necessary tbh. He's already has a bandana, now with glasses, and on top of that those goggles too?
http://i.imgur.com/mms7417.jpg

Tbh I can see some normal people wear those kind of clothes and haircuts. It's not too out there.

Spider-man 2 is my favorite of the five films so I found it interesting.Thoughts?
https://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-ne ... 54251.html

Article about the gamer changer of the movie's shocker. Actually it would have been a shocker if it did not happen ironically. Am I right?
https://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-ne ... 02434.html

I have said it before,I think the cpncept of a notable hunter continuously trying to murder another human is ridiculous.Unfortubately it appears Webbs wants Kraven to be the main antagonist in Amazing Spider-Man 3. I remember Garfield voicing dislike of the character and hopefully the studio will says its enough having him in the Sinister Six film He does mention the two yet to be adapted villians I want to see,Mysterio and Scorpion.

http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Marc-W ... 42876.html

I think Toby is the better Peter and Andrew is the better Spidey....if that makes any sense.

Mine too! Though I probably enjoy the first one more cause of more lovey dovey stuff with Gwen. :trazz::tlove:

Kraven as the next villain sounds interesting. His story is among the top spiderman stories of all time (with the top #1 story being Gwen's death, obviously). Maybe they can add in Mary Jane in it too at that.

The concept of a murderer wanting to kill another human is not that bizarre, heck most superhero films are about that..