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turtlefanforever 04-29-2014 01:34 PM

Rocky spinoff announced
 
A rocky spinoff called 'Creed' has just been announced. Stallone will be in it playing Balboa but it is centered around Apollo creeds grandson

MikeandRaph87 04-29-2014 03:11 PM

This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1407895

Whatswiththeheadbands? 04-29-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1255624)
This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1407895

I personally think that Rocky Balboa finished it off perfectly.

Saying that though, I'm interested to see how they might pull off this spinoff.

chrisdude 04-29-2014 03:32 PM

I'm down. I think Rocky V was the best ending, but I see the merit in Rocky Balboa, and I think that was a solid ending, too. As long as Rocky stays out of the ring, I have no objections with this idea.

DonnyMac 04-29-2014 07:52 PM

I heard about this last year, this could be an interesting idea, but after the end of Rocky Balboa, which I loved, I don't think we need anymore Rocky movies, spinoff or not

turtlefanforever 06-30-2015 08:07 PM

bump
 
first trailer released. Not interested in it.

PangolinFeets 06-30-2015 08:18 PM

Oh look. I found it. :p



I'm a sucker for boxing movies and I love the idea of Rocky training Apollo's son. Looking forward to this.

MikeandRaph87 06-30-2015 08:27 PM

I just found it on Youtube. It looks okay, nothing special. I remember in the months before Rocky VI/Balboa hit theatres there were rumors that Mason Dixon was Apollo's son. Then this project materialized. I love the Rocky series its just one of those examples of a franchise not knowing when to stop.

sdp 06-30-2015 08:46 PM

I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..

turtlefanforever 06-30-2015 08:50 PM

hmm
 
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Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997> (Post 1477745)
I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Tarver might do it. Tarver just came out of retirement actually. is going to be fighting on Spike PBC

MikeandRaph87 06-30-2015 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997> (Post 1477745)
I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..

Apollo died in 1985. he had an elementary aged son and daughter at the time with his wife. Michael B. Jordan is my age, born in 1987, two years later so the actor would have to play older than he is. One thing to keep in mind is when Rock 5 begins he, Adrian, and Paulie are still in Russia yet five years real time and seemingly around their bubble five years real time passed as their son had aged about five years. However, Robert was born in late 1979 and the movie takes place in 1990. Robert in Rocky 5 is clearly 13/14 in the film so you can through time passage out the window with the Rocky series chronology especially between films.

oldmanwinters 06-30-2015 09:13 PM

I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.

Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.

Also, Stallone is SO OLD.

MikeandRaph87 06-30-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1477757)
I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.

Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.

Also, Stallone is SO OLD.

Do you think it may not be real time but set a few years back? It make it a bit more believable. Rocky Balboa came out in late 2006. Lets say this film takes place in 2007 and Apollo's son watches the fight he had with Mason Dixon and seeks him out to train him in response perhaps Duke would send him? Its a small stretch but not as much of one as it could presented in the film.

Purse Grabbin Puke 07-03-2015 01:37 PM

First of all, I love the Rocky movies so very much. I think Creed looks amazing.

Now to the age debate. Apollo's wife could have been pregnant when he died in Rocky IV. So that would have him born '86 or '87. Now, even if they don't go that route, the Rocky movies have thrown out any and all continuity when it comes to the passage of time. Rocky II Rocky Jr is born, in Rocky III he's a small child, in Rocky IV he's about 3 or 4 years old. Rocky V opens with Rocky returning to America after Fighting Drago in Rocky IV and Rocky Jr is now 12 or 13. So it does not matter when he was born because they've already changed the timeline way worse than they could possibly do for Creed.

BubblyShell22 07-03-2015 03:58 PM

This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.

Purse Grabbin Puke 07-04-2015 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1478961)
This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.

The actor you're talking about is Michael B. Jordan, and he's great. He starred in a fantastic movie "Fruitvale Station" which was also written and directed by the same writer/director as Creed. You should watch that movie, once you do, you'll have faith that Creed will be a good movie.

Autbot_Benz 09-14-2015 09:41 PM



New Trailer It looks like Paulie is dead in this movie since this trailer shows his tombstone next to Adrian's

MikeandRaph87 09-14-2015 10:12 PM

Its like a tradition killing characters off one by one. Paulie died in February 2012. I would have minded him being killed off in Rocky 5. It also confirms he is Apollo's second son who was born after Apollo died. Not crazy about this. Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.

chrisdude 09-14-2015 11:07 PM

Personally, I don't think the series has ever gone wrong. Every sequel tells a different and significant part of Rocky's story. It's never just a rehash, it's always a new challenge. I figured Stallone would only do another movie if it kept to that tradition, and I'm glad to see that is the case.

The only real question is whether they'll keep Rocky alive for a whole trilogy.

Leo656 09-15-2015 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1501844)
Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.

No. No, no. Not ever.

When YOU punch Communism to death with your bare (gloved) hands, then you can tell people when to hang 'em up, tough guy.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-15-2015 12:52 AM

Are we talking about the same Michael B. Jordan who was just in the FF movie? Cause he was pretty lackluster to me. Well, to be honest, they all were, but he was no better than anyone else in it. Hope he's better as a boxer than as Storm....

Leo656 09-15-2015 01:25 AM

He strikes me as the type who would be good in some things, but not especially that thing. As such, he'll likely do better in this thing.

Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours. :lol: "Y'know, like, da t'ing is, yoo no, Mick, see he taught me lotta 'bout fightin', but see he also taught me lotta 'bout buildin' birdhouses. An da t'ing 'bout buildin' birdhouses, is like, yoo gotta remember that yoo ain't buildin' this puhticular house for yuhself, yoo know? Like, yoo gotta re-membuh, like, it ain't about what yoo like, it's about what duh birds like, and that most probably ain't gonna be duh same kinda thing, y'see whut I'm sayin'? Yoo almost kinda gotta like t'ink like a bird, y'know, a little bit sometimes. Also, yoo gotta remember not ta do like I did and hang it up inna garage, else you'se ain't gonna get a lotta dem birds. See I foun' dat out da hard way, but now I'm tellin' you so's you don't make the same mistake. An' also, one other t'ing is, if you don' like birds, you's can get one'a dem little teeny dogs, or like a ferret or a muskrat, y'know? Stick a ferret inna birdhouse. They don' know. Mickey taught me lotsa' tings."

I'd just die.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-15-2015 01:04 PM

OMG!! :teek::tlol::trazz::trolleye:

ROFLMAO, that was hilarious! I actually heard Stallone's voice while reading that, and I gotta tell ya, you do a GREAT Rocky! Also, now I want to hear YOU doing his voice, just 'cause. But yeah, that would be a seriously funny movie.

TheSkeletonMan939 09-15-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1501878)
Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours.

I actually feel like that's what Rocky Balboa was. Very little boxing-related activity until the end, most of it has to do with his relationships with his son and Paulie, saying stuff like that.

MikeandRaph87 09-15-2015 07:31 PM

Leo, why not have Sly go to a convention and go into Rocky mode not far from how Hamill often goes Joker at conventions? I also agree with Skeletonkey. There was that akward relationship with the girl he told not to smoke 30 years before too.:P

It is surprising that Duke will not show up in the film. He would be Adonis' step-grandfather after all.If only to present rbe iconic trunks and give the seal of approval before tbe fight in Apollo's place.

oldmanwinters 09-15-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1501878)

Frankly, I just want a whole movie of Stallone doing the Rocky "gimmick". F*ck any boxing scenes, I just wanna see him walk around and "Be Rocky", saying all that ridiculous sh*t he says, for two solid hours. :lol: "Y'know, like, da t'ing is, yoo no, Mick, see he taught me lotta 'bout fightin', but see he also taught me lotta 'bout buildin' birdhouses. An da t'ing 'bout buildin' birdhouses, is like, yoo gotta remember that yoo ain't buildin' this puhticular house for yuhself, yoo know? Like, yoo gotta re-membuh, like, it ain't about what yoo like, it's about what duh birds like, and that most probably ain't gonna be duh same kinda thing, y'see whut I'm sayin'? Yoo almost kinda gotta like t'ink like a bird, y'know, a little bit sometimes. Also, yoo gotta remember not ta do like I did and hang it up inna garage, else you'se ain't gonna get a lotta dem birds. See I foun' dat out da hard way, but now I'm tellin' you so's you don't make the same mistake. An' also, one other t'ing is, if you don' like birds, you's can get one'a dem little teeny dogs, or like a ferret or a muskrat, y'know? Stick a ferret inna birdhouse. They don' know. Mickey taught me lotsa' tings."

I'd just die.

Heh, that about sums it up for me too.

Eat Snails? Why would you wanna do that?
Condominiums? Consequently, I never use em.

Dr. Terminus 09-15-2015 08:26 PM

I don't think Rocky has misstepped when it comes to execution of each film. People have their gripes with certain movies in the Rocky franchise, sure, but when you're telling a story spanning 40 years and several decades, doesn't hitting the mark more often than missing it count for something? It looks like the perfect completion of the Rocky story.

Leo656 09-15-2015 09:21 PM

You definitely do wanna hear my Rocky. I do wicked impressions and he's one of my better ones. I think I'll get around do sticking one on Facebook one'a these days, at which point I'll share it here.

I f*cking LOVE Rocky. Those movies are religion in THIS f*cking house. F*ck, one time like TBS or some sh*t did a Christmas Day Rocky Marathon when I was like 12 or 13, sh*t had me doing push-ups outside in the snow. I worship the Italian Stallion the way Jesuits worship Christ.

It's like that.

turtlefanforever 09-15-2015 09:39 PM

ha
 
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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1502093)
You definitely do wanna hear my Rocky. I do wicked impressions and he's one of my better ones. I think I'll get around do sticking one on Facebook one'a these days, at which point I'll share it here.

I f*cking LOVE Rocky. Those movies are religion in THIS f*cking house. F*ck, one time like TBS or some sh*t did a Christmas Day Rocky Marathon when I was like 12 or 13, sh*t had me doing push-ups outside in the snow. I worship the Italian Stallion the way Jesuits worship Christ.

It's like that.

Do you have the channel ION? they do rocky marathons ALL THE TIME

MsMarvelDuckie 09-15-2015 09:45 PM

Only for the past month, and only on the weekends. I know, we've been subjected to them for the past THREE WEEKS!!!

Leo656 09-15-2015 09:52 PM

Yup yup, we been watching those too. Although I have the box set so it's kinda whatever, but I do usually put Rocky on whenever it's on over other things.

It is completely, physically, scientifically impossible, to hear that drum machine blast in, that bass line, the kick of that synthesizer, and Robert Tepper's voice go "We're not indestruuuuuuuct-abuuuuuul...." and NOT suddenly want to lift weights and hit things. You MUST stop whatever else you're doing to lift weights and hit things. I love it. Watch me be the first and only guy to have "No Easy Way Out" played at his funeral. :lol: I'll do it, I swear I will!

MikeandRaph87 09-15-2015 10:12 PM

I put together the Ultimate Rocky playlist using songs from all movies and few that should have been and play it on my andriod when I work out which about 3 to 4 hours a week.

Leo, Darth Vadar is my best impression. Maybe one day Rocky Balboa and Darth Vadar can hold a conversation. That would be fun.

What would be funnier than No Easy Way Out would be The Final Countdown which is a Rockesque song in my book.

Leo656 09-15-2015 10:33 PM

MY faaaaaavorite bit, that leaves my wife in tears, is Rocky and Paulie having a loud drunken argument. I can do both voices spot-on, and can switch on a dime, so it comes out pretty neat. :tgrin: I should seriously record this. My wife always bugs me to do it but it's kind of a spontaneous thing. :lol:

MikeandRaph87 09-15-2015 10:47 PM

The start of Rocky 3 after Paulie is freed by Rocky from jail?Maybe you could recite the deleted scene from Rocky Balboa when Paulie breaks down over missing Adrian after getting laid off from the meat packing plant.

I can do a near perfect Darth Vadar and Vito Carleone. If you ever go to the Heroes Con we could make some interesting dialog recordings.

Admit it, you would probably ask to go out to Jimi Hendrix just like any NwO faithful.

Guitar_Raph 09-15-2015 10:56 PM

Hokey smokes! I thought this was about the Rocky who fought Boris & Natasha with Bullwinkle!



Leo656 09-15-2015 11:04 PM

It's kinda like that, MikeandRaph, except they're both also cursing at each other and occasionally using various Italian ethnic slurs. It's one'a those bits that kills at the holiday gatherings when everybody's all half-drunk and goofy.

I also randomly throw in Mickey yelling "YOU DUMB DAGO!" from the first movie. :lol: Ohhhh myyyy gaaaaahhhhhhhd that was amazing. :lol: That sh*t kills me every single time. He really threw all of himself into that line, I swear. :lol: Terrific. Terrific.

Mickey and Rocky arguing is like, the most aggressive bit I do. I don't always do that one around the kids. :lol: It's just plain filthy, but it gets laughs. They die at the end where Mickey's all, "Talk t'me like that again you dumb sonuvabitch an' I'll be crappin' thunder on yer f*ckin' tombstone!" Sometimes I barely get it out. But hooo boy. I tell ya, man. I tell ya.

XERO 09-15-2015 11:18 PM

Admit it. You only like Rocky because of Thunderlips. lololol

Leo656 09-15-2015 11:32 PM

That is precisely why I first watched it when I was 6 or whatever, yes. It's pretty incidental to the fact I immediately went back to the store and rented the other 4 movies, because holy sh*t Rocky is amazing, especially when you're 6 and you believe a man can single-handedly beat up an entire country, symbolically, as long as there's enough bass and drums during the montage.

I have friends who have never seen Rocky and refuse to ever watch it, because "they hate boxing and boxing movies." Makes ME wanna smack THEM around, I swear. I'm like "It's not even abooooouuuut that, really," but it's like talking to a wall to anyone who hasn't already given it a chance. They're usually the kind of people who, their entire lives would change for the better immediately JUST after they took that one step, so that gets annoying.

XERO 09-15-2015 11:39 PM

I still need to get the collection. I'm tired of this Netflix "We'll show them all for 2 months and then take them back off, but no sixth movie at all" crap.

Leo656 09-15-2015 11:44 PM

I'unno who Netflix is, but they sound like a coupl'a bastids.

I swear I seen the box set for like $20. People should just get the Rocky set in the mail when the phone book comes. I mean who the f*ck even looks at it anymore, right? Nobody! You could be giving people something they might actually make use of.


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