Movie Opinion Opposite Thread
 

Notice to Moderators: I post this with some trepidation... This does have the potential to spiral out of control. I understand if it gets deleted quickly as a result of that.

I had mentioned it elsewhere and a few people thought it sounded like an interesting idea, so let's give it a try.

So we all know there are people on this forum who love the look of the new movie and there are people who hate it. It's pretty divisive and the disagreements can get downright gritty sometimes.

Well, the purpose of this thread is to SWITCH YOUR GEARS!

Are you eagerly anticipating the movie and can't wait to see it?
Then your job here is to post what you are unhappy with or wish they weren't doing, wish they had changed.

Are you dreading everything about this and think it's a stinky piece of cheese waiting for Rifftrax to get their hands on it?
Then your job here is to post what you actually LIKE about what you've seen so far.

I'll get this ball rolling.

I'm still really leery about the film overall, however....

I was really happy from day 1 when I heard Will Arnett was playing Vernon. I think he's going to be great and could even steal a scene or two.

I think the snow chase scene from the trailer looks pretty damn cool (yeah, I think Raph vs Hummer is over the top, but that's Hollywood action movie, just look at John McClain vs the Fighter Jet).

I actually really like Leo's shoulder guards and piece-meal bracers on his wrists, even if I'm not a fan of the chest armor and leg gear.

I like the kanji on Don's bandanna. Not sure if they all have some on their masks or not. Don't think I've seen it on the others, but it's a cool addition.

While I don't like the design OF the faces, I do like the quality of the CG so far. Knowing it's still not 100% finalized, it looks believable within the scenes and not too "perfect" which I felt The Hobbit suffered from for its orcs.

I do like the "just a mask" joke itself. Seems like goofy Mike humor and I think his voice is just dead on perfect for him.

Even if the movie were to bomb, I'd still secretly want the teaser posters framed in my house. :lol:

And, for now, last but not least: DESPITE not being happy with Shredder being changed to Eric Sachs and Oroku Saki being replaced by a white actor.... AT LEAST HE ISN'T THIS:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2..._%28MK9%29.JPG

Because dammit, Colonel Schrader was just the biggest waste of space on the Blue Door Script's pages. It was Shredder without any remote use of the character Shredder. :x:tgrumble::tmad:

Every one know IM loving Just about everything but i can admit there are little things that bug Me

Though I do say Its not worth dwelling on and once i write these down im over them and can get past them but here it goes, To be fair atleast

I baffles me when people Tried out for April like Anna Kendrick, and the Olsen Sister, who look and seem to fit the role so much better

I dont like what they Did to Danny Its a shame

While also Not really Liking Danny's casting choice his Voice was just to high pitched,

I dont like Donnie so bogged down, by stuff i like hes smart and techy but hopefully there is less, maybe

I dont like how this looks like it might be a Raph centric Movie Please lets not do this again,

While i do like the turtle van I also do not like that it looks so new From the Set photo it does seem out of place hopefully this is addressed maybe.

Wish they Put the poster out Sooner, and wish i could get my hands on them too

Looks like fun, I´ll try it.

Normally I`m Pro-new-movie, but.....

- Megans faint is horrible
- To much muscles
- Why did donny build a rocket-skateboard for mikey?
- Dons outfit (he looks like a walking laboratory)
- Isn`t the turtle-bus a little to small?

just a few points :P

I'm very much against this movie, but here's my positives:

Will Arnett was born to play Vernon. Perfect casting is perfect.
I like the design of the turtle van. It's actually been simplified from the original design, and I think it works quite well.
I think there's a lot of potential in the rocket skateboard. There's a chance it might wind up looking silly if the film turns out to be too serious, but it could also be an indication that this film isn't going to take itself too seriously, and I hope that is the case.
The design for the turtle lair looks good, based on what we've seen.
I'm happy to see Karai finally in a live action film.

I'm really excited for this movie and I find pretty much everything great but:

I'm concerned about the foot clan as a militia, I hope it's pulled off well. The gun trotting foot hasn't sat well with me yet.

Although I like the idea of Donny having wearable tech I thinks it's a little too much.



I also think this is a really good thread as long as it doesn't blow up into attacking each other as every other thread seems to do...

Well, I'm pretty Negative about the film and have already stated it dozens of times as to why.

So, something Positive?

Well...because of this film, we'll have a good book like The Ultimate Visual History Book on the Ninja Turtles. Some features on Ninja Turtles 2 and 3 on the overseas DVD's. And perhaps finally the release of that Turtle Power Documentary.

Those are Good, Positive things which is (probably) thanks to this movie. I like that stuff so far. That's all I got.

Im pro TMNT 2014 so I should post my negatives...should I also blow them out of proportion and create a bunch of memes to show how its the worst thing evAR? Hey gotta be authentic right? :lol:

Im sorry. It was the perfect setup.

Ok negatives, Turtles are wearing a little too much clothing. Splinter looks kinda small (is there a different view besides the toys and trailer shot?). Since Nick owns them, there might be some really stupid humor for the tweens.

I don't know, thats all I got.

I like the turtles hands.

I'm excited to see this movie but a couple of things i'm negative about,

Megan Fox as April and worried she get a lot more screentime than the turtles.

Worried that it could be Raph centric movie.

I like the turtles designs but too much clothing on the turtles.

I can't see this movie till October because i'm worried that i'll see lots of spoilers before it comes out.

Michael Bay is involed in this movie.

There's another positive for me, actually. I like Splinter being so short/small. The turtles were about 5-5'5" in the comics and he was smaller than them. So while it will be even more of a height difference with them being tall, I do like him being very short.

Also, others reminded me, I forgot about the turtle van. I agree it should look more hodge podge put together and beat up, but I do like the design. I wonder if the roof opens and can eject them into the air! ;)

I have to think that's speculation based on previous TMNT films, but Transformers, let's face it...blockbuster Bay film made so Hasbro could reignite their toy line.... was 2 hours.

So I think 2 hours is quite likely for TMNT. The Blue Door script would come in at about 2 hours-ish, so I can't imagine them cutting it down too much.

Two months of avoiding the forum for you. :(

I'm staying optimistic for this movie for now, so I'll post my negatives. Most of these are just prefrences, that I have now accepted and gotten over, but some I'm still disappointed about.

1.) The casting of Megan Fox over Jane Levy (who was also up for the role).

2.) Drastic change of origin, with a white Shredder, no Japenese storyline, and no Hamato Yoshi (however, this movie may have an interesting twist I may like)

3.) Clothing, tech, armor, puka she'll beads, sun glasses, and more tech. Separating the turtles by what they are wearing is a cool thought, but they go way over the top here. I would rather see their personalities come out in the PERSONALITIES rather than the visuals (which we may get, I don't know)

4.) The new look and the 'bigger and better' size. Personally, I prefer my turtles to have more if a traditional look, and smaller than the average human, so their ninjutsu skill can really shine through, instead of just being "mini Hulks".

5.) We haven't seen any ninjutsu yet, so there's no proof that there will be any (however, as Samxsteal pointed out, they have some super talented stunt people)

The only thing I truly don't like are the faces, I guess when someone like me who likes my heroes to be aesthetically pleasing, this minor nitpick holds more weight for me than most.

But everything else, I have actually liked.

For starters. I liked that the entire story is going to be new, so I won't be stuck with my head resting on my hand for a 1/4 of the movie hearing the same story being rehashed.

The snow plunge does look sweet. And I am liking that the Turtles are big. When I used to write stories or draw, I always had them 6 feet (they just never quite stopped growing during their stint on Fred Wolf in my mind :lol:)

I love William Fichtner, he's actually one of my favorite under the radar actors out there (along with Chris Cooper, Andre Braugher, Will Patton and Michael Rooker) So, I'm happy he's in a Ninja Turtle film.

I've always liked Megan Fox, so I don't mind her being April. I wouldn't have minded other actresses to play April either, and right now, my favorite picks were Adrianne Palicki, or if they were going to go the younger route, definitely Chloe Grace Moretz.

If Raph is the focal point of this movie, ALRIGHT! I don't mind at all. He's my favorite you know. And more than likely, if there is a sequel, expect Casey Jones to be in the next one (can't believe Michael Bay passed up someone like Jones in this movie to begin with) and Raphael will probably be the focal point in that one too.

I am on the neagative side so here are my psotives


i actually like splinters voice from the trailer we got, it had a very optimus prime vibe

i dont mind will arnett,he is one of my face actors

while i dont like the white shredder i can not deny fitchner plays a villain/douche/bad guy well

the teaser posters are pretty awesome


i LOVE the kanji on the mask...it makes me happy if they keep something from this movie in all future turtles i hope its this..and while i havent seen it on the others i hope they all have it

I'm very much looking forward to this movie. Although I am a bit concerned about the Turtle's sizes. Doesn't really scream ninja to me. I am concerned that the Turtles might not be the main focus of the film.

That said though, I like the Turtle's designs. The trailers were also very cool.

Bring it on!:D

Not just this forum, I have to be carefull when i'm on Twitter, Tumblr, Facebook and other sites, it's going to be hard.

Things I like:
Shredder and Splinter fight.
The Foot and Shredder basically launch a military operation to break in the lair.
I like the dark tone and vibe so far.
Leo's katanas look AWESOME.
The Scroll intrigues me and definitely has a reason for being there.
The Turtles seem super strong. I like how they toss around The Foot.
Supposedly we get to see inside Shredder's dojo.
Raph looks like he's going to hand a few beat-downs out.

Probably a few more I'm forgetting.

Slight sidebar, but that's kind of why I don't want Raph to be the focal point of the movie (AGAIN). Because when Casey gets introduced, I feel like Raph should be in the main spotlight for that movie.

I don't want TMNT to be "Raphael and the X-Men" for the entire run of the film franchise. I think each of them should be a bit of a stand-out in each film or it should be heavily balanced team-based like Avengers pulled off rather well.

I'm hoping the Raphael solo-movie section is minimal and it doesn't take too long for him, April, and Vernon to rescue the others. Since it's a story about family and brotherhood, and them as a team, it shouldn't spend too much time with them not as a team and I'm hoping it doesn't. :)

Although, this is something to expect in a Hollywood blockbuster, it's not always something we get. But, I do like that the turtles look like they are a part of the live-action shots, it's not just CGI slapped ontop of the footage like a sticker. They look for the most part well integrated and well lighted, and they have a sense of weight to them given their size. They don't look like they float without any weight.

The animation also looks very nice, the small details like moving beads and such are very well executed and it does look like the animators have done their part of the work by actually tweaking and polishing the Mo-Cap animation.

The Turtles eyes do look a bit small, but besides that they look very realistic, nice caption of light and movement.

The best feature on the turtle models gotta be their hands. that is something I've felt the previous Live-Action movies have lacked a bit on, as the fingers look a bit less realistic and not as well articulated. The PD Turtles hands are very nicely detailed and look like actual hands and move very much like hands.

The texture job is very well done, the colors are a bit dull and unimaginative, but they have almost always been that way, being in a single green color skin, but the bump mapping is mighty fine.

Me too,
Damn it.

Things that I like? Let's see:

- Leo actually looks the best out of the four
- I like Fisher's voice for Mikey
- Seeing a Splinter Vs. Shredder fight on the big screen is gonna be cool

And I think that's pretty much it.

I don't think this movie will suck in every aspect, but I'm pretty sure it will be mediocre at best, and a letdown as a tmnt fan. Kinda like how the first Judge Dredd movie had nothing to do with Judge Dredd, and otherwise wasn't too bad, but mediocre.

So here's what I like:

- Ugly realistic turtles. Yes, I'm serious, I think a giant mutated lizard (turtle) should be somewhat ugly, I think they were somewhat ugly in Mirage #1, and I think it was cool, and I was also curious how they would look in a more realistic way, like with nostrils. They're pretty nice actually, especially Leo. (Tho Mikey's face is terrible.)
- They kept April's fainting moment. :P
- Karai's in the movie.
- They use mocap and possibly good martial artist/choreographers for the scenes, so it will likely has some better fight scenes than the classic (1990) movie.

Can't think of much else......

Things I don't like

-No Oroku Saki (as far as we know).
-Typical Michael Bay easy jokes.
-Shredder looks like a Gears of War villain.
-The Foot being a branch of al-Qaeda.
-Looks like they overdid everything just a bit.
-Way too much going on with Donnie and Shredder. I think simple=better in this case.
-Whoopi Goldberg? I bet she calls Mikey a wigger.
-General lack of advertising, getting an audience excited.
-The trailers are okay. But, a lot of people (average movie-goer) still have no clue what the movie is about. Just that it looks cool.
-That Mikey one liner gives me doosh chills. Should have ended it with Leo.
-Splinter sounds like Carl Winslow.
-Urkeltello

I'm probably forgetting a few things but even with those negatives to me, I'm still looking forward to it. I'm allowed to nitpick if I want to lol

I'm still having one foot on each side of the "leery" and "stoked" boarder, but I'm putting a bit more weight on the "stoked" side, so here's my biggest peeves with this movie so far:

1. All tho I like Fichtner as an actor, I have a bit of trouble with him as the Shredder. I find it an odd choice and I'm curious to how they'll make it work (if they do at all)

2. I do not like Megan Fox as an actor, unfortunately (she seems like a nice girl, tho) and I'm not thrilled she is going to be portraying our April.

3. The foot seems to army-based for my taste so far, we'll see if that's the case all through the film.

4. I'm getting used to the turtles new appearance, but particularly Donny is just drowned in gadgets and gear! I do think all of them have too much unnecessary stuff on them. Even Raph who has the most modest attire has all kinds of bands and bandages that has no reason for being there.

well since I'm pretty happy so far I guess I should list my negatives

-I'm still not really sure about Megan Fox playing April....
-I hope that Raph isn't the main star in the film, but it seems like it.
-I love the designs, but I think Donnie's glasses and Raph's sunglasses are going a little far...

that's all I got so far ^_^

Negatvies:

I hate that turtles look like such Dude Bros.

The turtles are way to big and the amount of crap on them is just compensation.

Megan Fox, her face, just ugh...

Harry Sach, i don't get it.

Foot military, this one's obvious.

I don't like how overexagurated everything is, reminds me of that crappy J.J Abrams Star Trek movie.

and this is just scratching the surface.

Positives:

I like splinter's design.

I like the collors.

i like that we finally get to see Karai in Live action.

aaand that's pretty much it

I know nothing about Minka Kelly, but g'damn. She's perfect.

Edit: Both for April, and just in general. <3 <3 <3

You know, stuff like this is what gets these threads locked. Will you please stop.

And hey, looking at your gif, I think most TMNT fans adapt well to change. Fred Wolf Raph was actually a happy, joking kind of guy, not the brooding, angsty type we have now, and well, that's the Raphael most people do like now!

April has gone from reporter, to scientist, to art dealer, to kid and now back to a reporter, and the majority took it in stride.

We have gone from Splinter being Master Yoshi, to being a pet of Master Yoshi, a few times now, no biggie.

Shredder has gone from Oruko Saki working for Krang, Shedder being Saki having an empire, Shredder being an alien impersonating an ancient Saki, and in the same cartoon, Shredder being played by Karai, and now, Shredder is back to Saki, working with aliens again.

We're pretty good at adapting to change. Just because some of us don't like certain things don't make us elitist snobs.

It's a joke dude. I'm not questioning anyones fandom or level of caring. I just so happened to see it and thought it was funny in relation to this thread. If anything that gif includes me as well. I don't like a lot of things about the new movie.

I like that it looks like the turtle have more tech with stuff like the van and the rocket skateboards. Donnie inventing useful stuff is something that's never been shown on the big screen before so its good to see it here. that's all I got

As for the movie, so far it doesn't comes off as your garden variety Micheal Bay movie, imo. I'm just waiting for the eventual minority characters being shown dignity and humanity and the U.S. military won't be brown nosing

If the movie ends up bad, I'll be.... very, very sad.

... we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I thought this addition to the 2003 show was amazing, I don't think it was sloppy, I believe Ch'rell and Krang are two WAY different characters, that it wasn't a 'merge' of the two, and that Laird has done many great things to and for the franchise/fans.

Not trying to start an argument, but the 2003 fan in me saw this and I knew I had to say something.

its no secret that I am on the 'stokesd' side of things, but I would lying if i said i didnt have my fair share of complaints.

- I do not like the idea of having a Raph-centric film...reading an interview with the writers, they talk about how the film keeps true to the core of the turtles, meaning, brotherhood, and responsibility, and as nice as that sounds, all that says to me is that Raph is gonna storm off po'd, realize he lost his cool, come back with his tail inbetween his legs, finds his brothers gone, rescues them, and apologizes for his behavior...blah, blah, blah...has already been done before, with just slight variations to the same storyline.

- being a gadget-phile myself, I can totally relate to Donnie wanting to having his tech available at all times, but I think he proton pack is excessive, and ultimately goes against his ability to function as ninja. in future iterations, i hope this gets streamlined.

- in an interview, William Fitchner stated that his character goes through several evolutions during the course of the film, which leads me to believe we are in fact getting Utrom Shredder - what i dont like? that fact that it seems like they've removed/dismissed his Japanese roots. while Fitchner is a good actor, I would have love to seen a strong Japanese actor behind the wheel.

- Jonathan Liebsman - hasnt said a word about this whole thing. He is tasked as director, supposedly in charge, and yet the only people who have said anything about his production for the past several months, into a year, has been Bay, Arnett, and Fox. and Arnett and Fox, dont even give us anything substantial. just fluff.

- I want to see some action, actual, hand to hand, weapon to weapon, based combat. Im trying to be patient telling myself, they are setting us up slowly, but one kick, one flip, to show me they are doing this right. just one.

- while i have nothing against Fox, I would have preferred to see a more competent actress behind the wheel. Fox admitted herself (during her interview with Ellen) that she told the producers "you can hire a more believable reporter, but not a bigger fan" - when i heard her say that I was like, WHAT?!?! Shoot, cast me then, Im a huge fan...is that all it takes? I thought actors were based on their ability to act, silly me.

- again, trying to be patient, but their marketing sucks. they keep releasing photos of April on their official FB account-and I keep thinking to myself, WTF?! I hate, hate, hate the way the Transformers are marketed....whenever i check popular website, i see stories titled, check out a new still from the upcoming Transformers, I click the link and there are NO FREAKING ROBOTS anywhere in the picture, just Marky Mark, and the girl who ruined The Last Airbender, staring at something off screen. Same with the Turtles - its always Fox staring, and gasping at something off screen. SHOW ME WHAT SHE IS LOOKING AT!

It doesn't bother me too much just think its a little weird that'd he'd be so small. I know Splinter has usually been smaller which is fine, I just thought he'd be more the size of the 90s live-action Splinter.

Compared to these new live-action turtles he's gonna look really small. Maybe, there's no good shot of him yet so we'll see. No biggie.

Imagine him trainig this gigantic turtles.

Oh Mikey dude, you stepped on Splinter again, watch where you step maaan.

It's quite alright my son, OH MY HIP!

Wow, this thread is more turning out to be better than I thought it would.

I'm glad that it's remaining so civil, and it illustrates how both sides of the "argument" can actually understand each other. :tgrin:

As a cynical "hater", here's what I like:

* The set design looks great, from what we've seen of it so far. I'm not one to really like most recent Hollywood Blockbuster films, but one thing I can appreciate in many of them, is amazing set design. And TMNT is no exception! The shots of the lair look great, the mystical Mural Scroll is well done, and raises mysterious questions.

* The CGI of the turtles so far looks really good. I might not care for the designs, but I do like how far the technology has come! I was afraid of "roger rabbit" but i'm actually surprised on how great it looks. The attention to detail in the hands and fingers, and the skin textures look really impressive.

* The Mysterious Wall Scroll/mural i mentioned earlier. That was the first thing i've been excited about in this whole film since the announcement. Peering over my desk at work and trying to discern any bit of information from those blurry screengrabs. (unfortunately, i can't post as much as i'd like since i'm usually lurking at work, and my home PC is on life support) but i was right there with everyone trying to figure out just what was going on in that "Where's Waldo" painting and debunking the "official" prop that was totally different from what we saw in the trailer.....yeesh! Look at how much i'm going on about this thing, it just shows how excited i am about figuring it out and what it all means.

* The casting choice of Will Arnett is great! I'm not keen on the script re-write leaning towards the Fred Wolf canon, but if Will hams up that sniveling attitude with that snotty, 80's preppy voice.....it would be brilliant!

I also agree about the CGI of the boys. Like you Grapesoda, I'm not crazy about the faces, but I do think stuff like the teeth look great, the fingers are now more nimbler and I can totally seeing Raph and Donnie getting all fancy with their weapons.

will not be seeing this movie, I actually plan to order a spicy Hawaiian pizza and watch the first 2 Jim Henson movies and the OT mini series the night it comes to theaters instead. I think the turtles don't look at all how they should the nostrils, lips, eyes, heads, cheeks,costumes,height,masks all of it looks wrong to me.

What I like

Mikey's voice sounds great.
It looks like the action will be very fast paced and intense.
Shredders armor looks like a nice modern sci-fi update.

I honestly think playmates is putting out so much great stuff this year because they know this movie isn't what the older or even younger fan base really wants.... so that's a positive to this movie perhaps.

I like the casting of the turtle actors, and the voices for the turtles we have heard so far, only missing Leo, just have to wait for the next trailer to hear how Knoxville sounds as Leonardo. Fisher's voice is great.

Live action Karai, I am stoked about that part. And she is played by a "older" women in Hollywood standard, I'm really glad they didn't hire a 20 something and went with a woman who is 40.

Leonardo using actual katana, a curved sword and not the fake ninja Ken straight bladed sword. But, I am a bit disappointed they went back to two katana instead of a proper short sword and long sword combo, like proper Niten Ryu. But, since Leo have been using that for the majority of the franchise, I can't fault the movie studio too much on it. But, I do like the Tsuba on Leo's katana, seen on the poster.

Megan Fox is my biggest gripe with this whole thing so far.

And despite really digging the new designs, I wish they had pronounced Mikey's nose just a little bit more, similar to what they did with Leo and Don, because it looks like his mask barely fits over it.