Kirby O'Neil
 

So, what's Kirby's part in the story now? Ever since he was de-muated in "The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman" we haven't heard from him. Do you know what has or will happen to him?

I don't know what they've planned for him but I hope they continue to keep him behind the scenes personally... I don't like too many human characters knowing about/hanging out with the Turtles.

He was demutated literally one episode ago. You act like we haven't heard from him in months

Well likely when the Turtles and Splinter are going to need to evacuate the city, they are going to need someone to help them or guide them to a place of safety such as Northampton.

In the past April and Casey were able to due that, but now since neither of them are driving age, perhaps Kirby would be the one who helps get the Turtles out of the City.

He's obviously taking care of April now off-screen. Whether he's gonna get an important role again like in season 1 is yet to be seen.

They'll probably get rid of him again somehow...because with him around, April can't really have such an active role.

I'm sure Kirby will allow April to hang out with the turtles.

if not....they might as well kill him off already because having him in danger constantly is getting a little annoying.

I would like to see a motivated April without her father in danger.

After being held captive by the Kraang for who knows how long, being mutated, and nearly losing his daughter to the Kraang as well...I kinda doubt it. In the Season 2 premiere, it was even touched upon that he wouldn't let April out of the house to see the turtles.

arg....I know...
this is one of the problems to having April a teenager.....

one way they could have gotten around this is just have Kirby not know about the turtles(like her Aunt) and have April sneak out to see them.

but now that Kirby knows...(cause they needed to save him)....it's like the only way through this is to have him get into some sort of trouble so that he isn't around......but they can't keep doing that :ohwell: cause April's constant daddy issues are kinda grating on me...

and killing him off would only make April emo..... T^T

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I'd actually be okay if because of him April had to sit out a bit. April tends to be closely integrated with the Kraang focuses plots and I'd like to see more TMNT vs. Shredder and crew to round out the season.

Leo drives the Shellraiser and he's younger than April and Casey.

Technically they're driving it without a license, no tags, and no insurance either. Could you see them (being 15) walking into a DMV wanting to apply for a learner's permit?

Not comparable, really, especially since they only use it at night. They'd attract too much attention during the day, especially since the thing doesn't have plates and tags. It's less conspicuous at night.

Anything sounds better than making him the writer's personal "what else can we do to this guy to give April some drama?" punching bag for the fourth time.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

He's nothing more than a MacGuffin his mutation/demutation served no purpose at all...

Technically, that thing isn't even a road vehicle (it's a train) and would never be street-legal no matter who was driving it!! :lol::P

Yes indeed. I don't mind her, but the Kraang plots she's often in do tend to get a bit boring. I think she should sit out a bit and let the other plots get developed, since some of them badly need resolving (like Mutagen Man.)

It doesn't really matter, because even if he didn't know you have the issues of trying to get her dad to not find out and going to limits to make sure it keeps a secret. (AKA The Spiderman Dilemma) The issues would still be there regardless. Which really, would have gotten more ridiculous as the show went on. It's like how do want this problem served to you: Hot or cold?

So it's damned if you do, damned if you don't. The daddy issues will be there regardless, the only way they wouldn't were if he was never there to begin with.

It's all in the family. Am I right?:lol:

Of course it served a purpose - it gave Playmates another mutant to make a sh*tty toy of!

That too. :lol: You know, I can't help but wonder what's powering that thing now since they lost that power cell thing.

You know, in the ep where Donny made a successful anti-mutagen, I wondered why he didn't mention Timothy. He and Kirby was the main reason he was so intent on creating one in the first place. I didn't like the Pulveriser much and found him highly annoying, but I feel that his story should be resolved with him getting demutated and a lesson learned.

I asked Russ Carney about that... A deleted bit of dialouge in "Cockroach Terminator" revealed Donnie had replaced it with a diesel electric engine.

I'm thinking it could have been that he thought that he needed a full canister to demutate someone, and since he was only able to make enough for two, he chose the two people who they considered the most important.

But I hope that with the next batch Timothy is considered, I always thought that was a huge loose end and they aren't using him much anyway. Plus I can't help but feel bad for him, he's like Baxter Stockman in that the universe craps all over on him, and he could do to have a much better fate then just be a pile of goo and organs in a jar the rest of his life.

SO TRUE! It's some pretty sadistic writing if you think about it. If they want to keep Mutagen Man alive and active to keep the toy line going that's fine, but they should at least acknowledge him.

Haha... every time I see an episode with that thing running down the street I can't help but think how long would it take for the NY police to be all over it!! It sticks out just a bit!! :lol: :lol:

It looks cool as **** though so that's all that matters!! ;)

That's pretty much how I feel. As I said, I found him annoying, but felt bad after he was mutated.

lol. You're not the only! I always wonder why they haven't been spotted yet, but that thing is awesome.

Ditto both of these; I appreciate that they don't want to blow their wad on the juicy bits of the Shredder storyline straight away, but I'm getting a bit tired of April pulling a new kraang power out of her butt every episode. Show me some Xever, show me some Karai, show me some Mutagen Man, wrap up some of the other loose ends we've seen.

I just hope they don't do anything bad to Kirby anymore. Guy's had enough problems in his life. I do think he'll be the key to getting the Turtles out of the city once they're discovered and have to flee.

I want to learn more about April's mom, so here's hoping that he gets into it.

well seeing as April's Aunt doesn't ask questions I don't see why Kirby would be a big problem :ohwell:

How do you know she doesn't ask, we haven't ever seen her to know that.

You know what happens when you assume... ;)