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Papenbrook 06-08-2014 02:29 PM

What would you like to see in Season #3?
 
In your opinion, what do you want to see for Season #3?

For Season #3, I would like to see:

.Mikey develop as a character(being more mature/reserved)
. An appearence of Casey's family
. Less humans being mutated
.April interacting with the other turtles(besides Donnie)

Whatswiththeheadbands? 06-08-2014 02:34 PM

Better humour
Mikey being less annoying
Less casey
More of shredder actually doing things
More character development
Less OT influences

ssjup81 06-08-2014 03:22 PM

Hm...things I would like to see...

April interacting with the other three turtles a bit more, at least Leo.

Casey's family. He went on about wanting to protect them. It would be nice to actually see them.

More development for Raph and Mikey. Both seem to be getting the short end of the stick, as this show is clearly Leo and Donny's. I want Mikey to continue being written as competent, like in the current episode. I want him to have more moments like that. Keep him goofy if they want just as long as he isn't being stupid. I also would like to see him more focused as opposed to coming across as having ADD or ADHD.

Mutagen Man's story concluded (if it isn't done so by the end of this season). I feel a bit bad for him. I would hope that Donny could somehow manage to make more retro-mutagen.

I want Donnie to go back to Stockman's lab and get more Mutagen so he can make more retro-mutagen.

The Triceratons!

Another 80s turtles cameo...but that's the nostalgia talking. ^^ I just want the 2k12 turtles to meet the OT turtles is all.

Irma playing a bigger role...somewhat and finally meeting the turtles.

TurtleTitan97 06-08-2014 03:28 PM

More Shredder Vs. Turtles/Splinter fight scenes
More Kraang Prime and Dimension X
Triceritons and Professor Honeycutt
Leatherhead
Irma meeting the guys
More Slash episodes

That's all I got for now

victory_angel 06-08-2014 04:04 PM

Good Genes arc like plot line.
Time travel
Bishop being brought into play. (Doesn't need to be employed by or associated with Shredder)
Emotional conflict with the characters.
Irma's, Casey, and April's development and relationship with the Turtles
Kirby's relation with the Turtles
Flash Backs to the Turtles Growing up.
Development on the Turtles relationships with each other.

Metalwolf 06-08-2014 04:33 PM

No more overt OT cameos -The brief OT Turtle cameo was fine, but any more past that is pushing it. Let this show be it's own thing without it trying to ride too hard on the OT's coattails.

Triceratons- These look like an interesting alien foe, they look fitting (and threatening enough) to be the Kraangs' main rival. I could see the writers throwing in an easy Alien vs Predator reference with this too: "Whoever wins, we lose."

Less humans turning into mutants- Pretty much as it says on the tin. Mutants are fun, but not when everybody and their grandaddy is getting turned into one. All it does is come off as overkill and then makes the rare human look special.

More development of the existing characters- This season (Season 2) seemed more like it was more of a mutant-fest with only a few bits of plot and development inserted here and there. I'd love to see a bit more development of these existing characters, some of these we barely know anything about! We know the good guys have hobbies and interests besides just ninja training, do the bad guys have any of these too, or do they just sit around in brood mode when not fighting?

Exploration of being a mutant- I know this is a remote chance, but I'd love to see this touched on. The Turtles are the most 'human' out of all of the mutants, even though they were never human to begin with. But humans seem to lose some of their humanity, which is the paradox. Most seem to adopt almost overt behaviors of the creature they 'became,' even though they have a human's mind and reasoning.

pennydreadful 06-08-2014 05:04 PM

More character development for Raph and Mikey.
Introducing Irma to the gang.
Less love triangle.
Less of Aprils magic power macguffin-ness.
More Shredder moments.
More moments with the existing mutants, rather than continuing to introduce new ones.
Resolution for the Timothy/Mutagen Man arc.

NinjaPug 06-08-2014 05:09 PM

Usagi
Turtles in Space
Triceratons
Fugitoid
Less mutants
Less Kraang
Turtles in Time
The writers to stop being too reliant on the OT
More nods to Mirage

snake 06-08-2014 05:10 PM

Promoting Yost as head writer and let him take over. Do it Ciro.

Zulithe 06-08-2014 05:16 PM

Just some very broad thoughts on Season 3 and beyond:

- continue on improving the environments. More buildings, more background characters, more stuff that makes the world feel "real" and lived in by the turtles. They are improving on this over time, but they could still do better.
- A lot of the battles in Season 2 feel more dynamic and interesting than Season 1, I want to see them continue to refine the animation and make it look more fluid and impressive than ever!
- more stories that "matter" fewer "self contained" episodes
- crank the ninja factor up to 11. I want to see more relating to Splinter, Shredder and the Turtles' Japanese heritage. More Japanese phrases, more martial arts, I want the fact that the turtles are ninjas and from a Japanese "family" be very important to their characters and those that interact with them.
- would love to see a story arc where the turtles are forced to leave NYC for a while, only to return half a season or a full season later with a bang.
- please if the neutrinos are introduced do not make them annoying as hell like in the OT. It was simply terrible.
- please no more crossovers where the Nick characters meet OT or 2k3/4kids versions of characters. It's not necessary or very interesting IMO.

Hmm not sure what else right now :)

Bry 06-08-2014 06:17 PM

I mostly want to see some more character development at this point. Mikey's had a few moments to shine so far, but we rarely see him "get serious" when it's necessary, and the jokes about his stupidity have gotten a bit out of hand. He can be the goofy, funny one without always being the joke himself. I want to see a bit less of him being an annoyance and some focus on his positive attributes and strengths.

Both April and Casey could use a bit more development as well - it feels a bit like April's power upgrade could be meant to make her more immediately engaging instead of making her more interesting without a gimmick, and I'm not a huge fan of that idea. And we need some backstory and added character depth for Casey before too long.

Also: focus on Shredder as a threat outside of his grudge against Yoshi, more actual ninjas (the Foot Bots are okay, but it feels like the actual Foot Ninja got the short end of the stick on this show), and maybe a bit less focus on random "mutants of the week" - at times it can make the Turtles themselves seem less special when there are constantly new mutants being added to the mix.

CyberCubed 06-08-2014 08:04 PM

I won't mention the stuff already confirmed like Bebop/Rocksteady or Triceratons, so other than them:

- Hun
- Armaggon
- Turtles in Space or Dimension X
- Turtles in Time (dinosaurs, Japan, the future)
- General Traag talking leading Rock Soldiers
- Human Foot Soldiers return

TurFlytle 06-08-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1278422)
- Human Foot Soldiers return

I'm pretty sure the Foot Bots put up more of a fight. :ohwell:

ssjup81 06-08-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TurFlytle (Post 1278430)
I'm pretty sure the Foot Bots put up more of a fight. :ohwell:

Yeah, and the turtles are actually allowed slice them up without censor issues, hence why the Foot were robots in the OT.

snake 06-08-2014 08:42 PM

If the PD movie is successful, will the budget go up for the show?

MCLeo28 06-08-2014 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TurFlytle (Post 1278430)
I'm pretty sure the Foot Bots put up more of a fight. :ohwell:

That, and they are returning with four arms which should make them more of a threat.

Gimme_Three 06-08-2014 09:27 PM

can someone explain what they mean when people say character development for mikey? It kinda annoys me when i read something like that.

ssjup81 06-08-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MCLeo28 (Post 1278471)
That, and they are returning with four arms which should make them more of a threat.

Out of curiosity, was I the only bothered with how easily Casey took out the Footbots his first time fighting them in that "Target is April O'Neil" episode? April too, but at least she eventually was caught. The turtles who have years of training struggled against them their first time, I thought it was crazy that Casey could take them on.

Bry 06-08-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimme_Three (Post 1278479)
can someone explain what they mean when people say character development for mikey? It kinda annoys me when i read something like that.

Mikey is my favourite Turtle (go figure) and overall I like him a lot on the show. Cipes does a great job in the role, he's a lot of fun, and genuinely funny most of the time. But I just wish he wasn't the butt of the joke so often, and wasn't portrayed as being extremely stupid/dense as much as he is, as well as very clumsy and careless at times.

I feel like Mikey's lightheartedness and good humour helps keep a certain balance on the team, and it'd be cool to see that recognized by the Turtles and Mikey himself now and then. Just some more moments of dignity would be nice to balance things out a bit.

BabyTurtles 06-08-2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken (Post 1278202)
In your opinion, what do you want to see for Season #3?

For Season #3, I would like to see:

.Mikey develop as a character(being more mature/reserved)
. An appearence of Casey's family
. Less humans being mutated
.April interacting with the other turtles(besides Donnie)

this and

more human friends (Angel, Angel, Angel)

less focus on April plot.

ssjup81 06-08-2014 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three (Post 1278479)
can someone explain what they mean when people say character development for mikey? It kinda annoys me when i read something like that.

Well, for me, I hate the fact that he is (was) portrayed as dumb, unfocused, and not taken seriously. I especially hated how they had to constantly go over plans because Mikey probably didn't "understand" it.

Season 2 is portraying him a bit better, though. I know people hated the Shellacne ep, but I actually liked it because he figured out correctly where Baxter, Dogpound, and Xever were and hated the fact he wasn't being taken seriously. I hate the fact that the others don't. He's also sometimes clumsy and goofs up, and that bothers me too and he seemed to be portrayed as incompetent, but like i said, seems this season is trying to rectify that. This current ep was great and portrayed Mikey in a way he should've been portrayed from the beginning.

Gimme_Three 06-08-2014 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1278509)
Well, for me, I hate the fact that he is (was) portrayed as dumb, unfocused, and not taken seriously. I especially hated how they had to constantly go over plans because Mikey probably didn't "understand" it.

Season 2 is portraying him a bit better, though. I know people hated the Shellacne ep, but I actually liked it because he figured out correctly where Baxter, Dogpound, and Xever were and hated the fact he wasn't being taken seriously. I hate the fact that the others don't. He's also sometimes clumsy and goofs up, and that bothers me too and he seemed to be portrayed as incompetent, but like i said, seems this season is trying to rectify that. This current ep was great and portrayed Mikey in a way he should've been portrayed from the beginning.

I dont see it like that though, take away those traits ("develop") and then you'll have a leo jr. raph jr. etc.

He's not dumb but he is unfocused, carefree, and a prank/jokster which is why the team doesn't take him seriously. He picks on/ trolls his brother just as much as they pick on him. He's the annoying runt kid brother that loves and fights for the attention and spotlight. That's the difference between him and his brothers take that away and you're taking away mikey.

when mikey does focus or, is right about something and comes through for his brothers it's what makes those moments extra special.

kolaida 06-08-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gimme_Three (Post 1278530)
I dont see it like that though, take away those traits ("develop") and then you'll have a leo jr. raph jr. etc.

He's not dumb but he is unfocused, carefree, and a prank/jokster which is why the team doesn't take him seriously. He picks on/ trolls his brother just as much as they pick on him. He's the annoying runt kid brother that loves and fights for the attention and spotlight. That's the difference between him and his brothers take that away and you're taking away mikey.

when mikey does focus or, is right about something and comes through for his brothers it's what makes those moments extra special.

This is how I view Mikey, too. He tends to come through when he needs to. I think it's great he's lived the life he has and can still be so light hearted and accepting of himself and others.

CyberCubed 06-08-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1278455)
If the PD movie is successful, will the budget go up for the show?

The people making the movie are a completely different studio than the people working on the Nick show, so the movie being successful or bombing should have no impact on the cartoon.

Its the same thing with the IDW comics, they're totally independent from each other and their success depends on their own sales not how the cartoon does.

Personally I'm hoping the movie bombs so we don't get a sequel, and it shouldn't affect the Nick show in any form.

TMNTmousers 06-08-2014 11:08 PM

Season 3
 
I want to see-
Armaggon
Punk Frogs
Triceratons
Foot Ninjas again
Foot Elite
Hun
Mona Lisa
More girl characters
The turtles in different places
Some characters should be killed off like Spider Bytez

Gimme_Three 06-08-2014 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1278498)
Mikey is my favourite Turtle (go figure) and overall I like him a lot on the show. Cipes does a great job in the role, he's a lot of fun, and genuinely funny most of the time. But I just wish he wasn't the butt of the joke so often, and wasn't portrayed as being extremely stupid/dense as much as he is, as well as very clumsy and careless at times.

I feel like Mikey's lightheartedness and good humour helps keep a certain balance on the team, and it'd be cool to see that recognized by the Turtles and Mikey himself now and then. Just some more moments of dignity would be nice to balance things out a bit.

I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

Gimme_Three 06-08-2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolaida (Post 1278535)
This is how I view Mikey, too. He tends to come through when he needs to. I think it's great he's lived the life he has and can still be so light hearted and accepting of himself and others.

It makes him more special because it's said that he's more skill than all his brother but because he lacks focus his potential will never be reached, but that doesn't mean he can't show flashes of it.

one of my favorite ep. from 2k3 series was "grudge match" when leo's words about family being all they have sunk in and he became serious and focused for that one moment and completely wrecked his opponent. Awesome!!

MCLeo28 06-08-2014 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1278480)
Out of curiosity, was I the only bothered with how easily Casey took out the Footbots his first time fighting them in that "Target is April O'Neil" episode? April too, but at least she eventually was caught. The turtles who have years of training struggled against them their first time, I thought it was crazy that Casey could take them on.

No, I was also bothered by that too until I realized Casey is meant to be OP.

victory_angel 06-08-2014 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three (Post 1278542)
I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

Mikey is the way he is, because he likes to entertain and cheer people up. He is as affected by his brothers the same way they are affected by him.

His purpose in the team is to serve as a reminder that even in the darkest of moments, that light still exists. When one of his brothers is injured he would concern himself with that brother and protect him at all costs.

If one of his brothers is down he goes out of his way to try and make them feel better.

And if one of his brothers was suddenly gone it would be like part of him dies with them. If Mikey is less childish and became more serious. Then he wouldn't be that light to the team that reminds everyone that innocents still exists.

Technogeek29 06-08-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1278556)
Mikey is the way he is, because he likes to entertain and cheer people up. He is as affected by his brothers the same way they are affected by him.

His purpose in the team is to serve as a reminder that even in the darkest of moments, that light still exists. When one of his brothers is injured he would concern himself with that brother and protect him at all costs.

If one of his brothers is down he goes out of his way to try and make them feel better.

And if one of his brothers was suddenly gone it would be like part of him dies with them. If Mikey is less childish and became more serious. Then he wouldn't be that light to the team that reminds everyone that innocents still exists.

Then you have SAINW Verse Mikey.

precision 06-09-2014 01:26 AM

I would want to know what Jack Kurtzman's motives are for helping April and the turtles. How does he know so much on the Kraang? Is he a government agent or could be from dimension x and has assumed a human form? How does he get all these pictures without being seen?

victory_angel 06-09-2014 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by precision (Post 1278597)
I would want to know what Jack Kurtzman's motives are for helping April and the turtles. How does he know so much on the Kraang? Is he a government agent or could be from dimension x and has assumed a human form? How does he get all these pictures without being seen?

I am banking my money on him actually being a rogue Kraang, or an Utrom. I.E. He's from the same species as Kraang Prime, but doesn't have the hive minded view of the Kraang. Or it is possible he is the Fugitoid, either way he would have to be on the inside to have all that information.

Gimme_Three 06-09-2014 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1278602)
I am banking my money on him actually being a rogue Kraang, or an Utrom. I.E. He's from the same species as Kraang Prime, but doesn't have the hive minded view of the Kraang. Or it is possible he is the Fugitoid, either way he would have to be on the inside to have all that information.

this would be cool!

Bry 06-09-2014 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three (Post 1278542)
I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

I mean, I wouldn't want to develop him to the point where he isn't himself anymore... just have some moments of depth peppered in more than they are right now.

He's always gonna be the fun-loving joker type, and I wouldn't want to change that. I like the "little brother" qualities he has, but I just feel he can be too naive and dopey at times.

One of my favourite Michelangelo moments is this one, from the 1990 movie (first 30 seconds):



I always got the impression, even as a kid, that he did understand the seriousness of Donatello's question - he just chose not to deal with it.

With the Nick version, it can seem like he just doesn't fully understand serious/emotional issues at times. And (IMO) the big example there is his insensitive response to April's father being mutated. He didn't seem to have much empathy for April or Kirby, even giving him a "mutant nickname" like all of their enemies, and not seeming to take his mutation very seriously, even in front of a distraught April.

And I mean - one's live action and the other's a cartoon, so it's hard to directly compare them. But regardless, I think you need to ground the comedy-relief characters now and then so they don't become completely obnoxious. I love Mikey, and I think he's a great character when you give him a bit more depth. If anything, him keeping an optimistic mindset and a lighthearted disposition in the face of any threat is even more powerful that way.

Vicky82 06-09-2014 01:08 PM

More delovopment with Mikey make him more mature ect
More emotional and serious moments
Killing a minor character off (if censors allowe it)
When the turtles are hurt and have bruises and scratches in the same places on the turtles bodies, they need to make it more different.
Shredder fighting a lot more, and less time sitting on his arse
Less Kraang
Less humans turning into mutants
New characters - Usagi (doubt this is going to happen), Bishop, Armaggon ect
Storylines from Mirage or Archie comic series.

rickwj324 06-09-2014 02:14 PM

1)A visit to Dimension X leading to a big showdown with the Kraangs and Neutrinos
2)Fugitoid
3)TRICERATONS!!!!!!!!!!
4)A feudal trip in time, featuring Panda Khan

Oh.. and I would love to see Usagi appear!!

--Rick

Gimme_Three 06-09-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1278709)
I mean, I wouldn't want to develop him to the point where he isn't himself anymore... just have some moments of depth peppered in more than they are right now.

He's always gonna be the fun-loving joker type, and I wouldn't want to change that. I like the "little brother" qualities he has, but I just feel he can be too naive and dopey at times.

One of my favourite Michelangelo moments is this one, from the 1990 movie (first 30 seconds):



I always got the impression, even as a kid, that he did understand the seriousness of Donatello's question - he just chose not to deal with it.

With the Nick version, it can seem like he just doesn't fully understand serious/emotional issues at times. And (IMO) the big example there is his insensitive response to April's father being mutated. He didn't seem to have much empathy for April or Kirby, even giving him a "mutant nickname" like all of their enemies, and not seeming to take his mutation very seriously, even in front of a distraught April.

And I mean - one's live action and the other's a cartoon, so it's hard to directly compare them. But regardless, I think you need to ground the comedy-relief characters now and then so they don't become completely obnoxious. I love Mikey, and I think he's a great character when you give him a bit more depth. If anything, him keeping an optimistic mindset and a lighthearted disposition in the face of any threat is even more powerful that way.

cool, i understand completely where you're coming from.

Donatello19 06-09-2014 03:50 PM

A little more of Raph and Mike, including some nice story arcs or something for them...because let's face it, Leo and Don take the spotlight most of the time, and their episodes are usually better and more liked than Raph and Mike's, which tend to be filler except for a few.

victory_angel 06-09-2014 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1278921)
A little more of Raph and Mike, including some nice story arcs or something for them...because let's face it, Leo and Don take the spotlight most of the time, and their episodes are usually better and more liked than Raph and Mike's, which tend to be filler except for a few.

Well to be fair, Raph and Mikey were largely the stars in the OT version. But yes, I do agree they did need some more opportunity to show that they aren't just the "Shell Brained Knuckle Heads" of the group when compared to the Gifted team.

drgon78 06-09-2014 08:53 PM

That is weird my first post got deleted.

-More development for April and her family.
-Irma meeting the turtles(if not in S2).
-More Irma in general.
-Introduce Vernon.
-Leatherhead
-More Baxter the fly.
-April interacting more with the other turtles.
-Neutrinos
-Bebop and Rocksteady.
-More non-ninja human bad guys.
-More April psychic weirdness.
-More dimension X.
-More non-mutant creatures from dimension X.
-Some actual aliens from outer space.
-More female mutants.
-General Traag talking and commanding rock solders.
-More Rat king.
-More development for Mikey.
-More psychic powered villains.
-More character development for Mutagen Man.


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