Why does Casey dislike Irma?
 

Casey has expressed his dislike for Irma in a few episodes calling her, "annoying," and, "does she ever shut up?" or "she's nasty."

Yet we the audience have never seen Irma actually do any of these things he's complaining about. What do you think?

Probably the same reason he disliked Donatello at first.

Because she's a dork that gets in the way of what he wants to do with April.

The show has a horrible lack of fleshing out its characters properly. Maybe Casey just hates nerds. April might count as a nerd but she's 'cute'.

He probably thinks she's ****blocking him to keep him from April

Isn't it obvious? Because she's getting in the way of him and April.

He obviously wants to spend time with April alone, Which is why he isnt comfortable having a 3rd person being around, Cause in his own mind, Hes dating April.

I wonder if April even likes Casey. Every time he says the word "date" around her she says something like "who said this was a date?"...and she's always bringing Irma with them (someone had to invite her, and it certainly isn't Casey)

Yet, April was very casual when she assumed Casey rubbed her butt.

Well, actually, while Irma has never been seen as nasty, we can imply that because of her reaction to "rat droppings" (or whatever it was) after April freed Irma in "Of Rats and Men". I don't think it's far off to say Irma is nasty, at least in Casey's eyes.

Ditto this - it's the kind of thing that someone might do if they didn't want to be alone with someone else.

But on the other hand:

This. Sometimes I don't know what to think.

Overall, I think Casey dislikes anyone who gets in the way of him having alone-time with April - regardless, it's pretty obnoxious. From what I've seen, she's a perfectly nice person so I don't have much patience for Casey constantly throwing off at her.

Pretty much, I feel she does this because this is her way to feel human, and doing this is her way to feel like she's living a normal life. I feel she likes the fact that Donnie and Casey both like her, and why she continues to lead them both on because she doesn't want this feeling of being cared like this to end. I feel she's a flirt and wants to be cared about by both of them to feel human and important not involving alien invasions and terraforming plots.

It's like her drug per say, she doesn't want it to end so she continues to do it, no matter how wrong she feels it may become. She wants to continue feeling special by two people she cares about and who care about her back. Because as soon as she stops, she'll remember how much of an inhuman life she has.

I'd honestly prefer if April just stayed single. Her and Don are cute together, but I can't imagine it being anything more than it is right now. With her and Casey...I don't really see anything that puts them together/warrants a relationship other than them being the male and female (human) leads.

^This right here!

Oh, and I don't think he actually dislikes Irma, he just hates the fact that when he wants to hang out with April alone for the dates he thinks he's on in his mind, Irma is usually around. Irma being around I feel just shows that April isn't into him in that way. Irma is April's friend. I doubt Irma forced herself to be with them during their outings. I'm sure April probably invites her along since she is her friend and since Casey constantly wants a date, he wouldn't. He keeps referring to Irma as a third wheel. In another thread, I mentioned that I don't feel that she's the third wheel, but that he is. If April wanted to get closer to Casey romantically, she would probably let Irma know this. To me, this just shows that she obviously wants to be and remain friends with Casey and just "hang out" with her friends doing normal, non-Shredder/non-Kraang-related things.

I do hate the fact that both she and Casey ditch her all the time though. Like in the current ep, I felt bad when they rushed off. I know they were doing so to protect Irma, but they could be a bit more tactful...well, April at least. They could've told her something like, "Irma, hurry go home. Don't ask any questions, just do it. It's for your own safety!" or something.

How do we even know that April fully knows that Donny "likes her" in that way still, though? Donnie hasn't been as obvious around her, imo, not like how he was in season 1. I also don't feel she's leading either on. She doesn't like them in that way and hasn't really done anything to say or show otherwise. She's given friendly hugs and friendship kisses when happy, but that's all. How is she leading either on and how exactly is she a flirt?Seriously, I truly just don't see her in this way at all. I don't feel she's leading either boy on and I don't feel she's a flirt.

To be fair, in "Wormquake/The Manhattan Project" she kinda WAS being a flirt towards Casey...


My question about Casey's treatment of Irma though, is why the heck is April NOT even trying to stand up for her friend? -_-

She was? Could you refresh my memory please? I'm not doubting or anything, I just don't remember.Yeah, it is a bit strange, unless it's a situation where neither she nor Irma take anything Casey says at face-value or seriously.

Edit: Oh, Casey did say Irma was "nasty". I wonder if that came to mind because he saw Splinter when he woke up or was still delusional from falling off of a building. Casey still has a strong fear of rats. Irma likes rats. She talked about rat droppings. That is a bit...well..icky. For all we know, she may talk about rats passionately or something. You saw how he reacted to Mikey's liking of rats. He thought he was loopy.

I'd imagine it's because Irma tends to pick on Casey occasionally as seen in "The Good, the Bad, and Casey Jones". It also has to do with the fact that he feels that she gets in the way of being alone with April, like everyone else says. From her point-of-view, she might see him as a school jock who attempts to flirt with girls and does not want April to fall for those type of men who may also get in the way of her studies.

I think the answer is simple. Casey doesn't like having Irma there because he wants a chance to move forward romantically with April. It's a real shame too because Irma seems like a pretty cool person in this continuity.

I'll just quote the scene since I have the episode on I-tunes

episode: Wormquake
*Casey and April are on the rooftops

Casey: so April vigilanti-ing...is cool and all but how bout a real date?
April: what do you call this~?
Casey: I was thinking something a little cozier....you, me (puts hand on her shoulder)
April: (smiles~)

yea....I think that was flirting. :ohwell: she seemed totally cool with Casey all close to her.

oh found a picture

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0104ee38...hwpmo4_500.png

Oh yeah, I did forget about that. Everything else in that ep was so cool, that completely slipped my mind. She was being flirty there...unless she was trying to turn him off from her? Nah, I doubt it, but Casey did ask for a real date and that was her idea of one. lol

^here's your answer.

Because he feels like she's in the way. I mean, if you wanna make out with a chick at the movies, how awkward to have her friend there? And Irma seems to be pretty opinionated And speaks her mind. She's downing his vibes, crushing his mojo, etc.

Ugh - NickCasey just makes my skin crawl, I'm sorry. I know he's a teenager but he just comes off as a hormonal little grub. For someone who has (what's coming off as) such a lack of patience towards nerdy types, it seems out of place for him to be macking on April so heavily; as we've seen, she's not exactly popular and is in fact a nerd type herself given that she's supposed to be tutoring him. It makes me feel like he's got a real "oh those other nerds suck - but you're ok cuz you're hot" kind of attitude.

If we get some better characterisation, I'll probably warm up to him but as it stands all we really see of NickCasey is him slobbering all over April, or teaming up with Raph and being super-cocky/downright arrogant. It's not really winning me over at this stage.

All purely my opinion but that's how he's coming off to me. He's lacking in charm. A scene showing him leaving the house saying goodbye to his little sister or something would flesh him out a bit more and show that he has some heart beneath his brash exterior.

I feel like Casey didn't like Irma long before he got to know April XD....

Casey lost his virginity to Irma, but then she left him.

So now he's all hell bent despising her everytime he sees her. You'll never forget your first time.

:lol::lol::lol:

LOL!!!!:tlol: I love this one, this has to be it! :tgrin:

Well then, that explains everything. Irma burned him! Oh oh! I know what it is! He is actually still in love with her and is still trying to move on, but can't because Irma will always be in the way and on his mind. :lol:

Sadly it is cuz she gets in the way of his alone time with his precious April :roll:

I feel bad for Irma, we don't see much of her and she's always teased and picked on by the people she hangs out with.

That may be the saddest thing that I have ever heard and possibly the most infuriating. Is this how girls really think? Do they really feel most value as a human being when they being sought after by guys or is it wish thinking by male writers? Seriously, can someone please explain this idea because it feels so alien.

Heh, this was actually similar to what I thought. That or Irma is keeping consistent character by being easy.

Heh heh, aw right! *bobs head*

As others have said, because he wants alone time with April. The idea of Irma once dating Casey and turning him down is a pretty intriguing theory though. And since she's the nerdy type, she probably talks about disgusting stuff Casey doesn't want to hear about while out with April.

That would be alien to me too, and I'm a girl. Usually when a girl thinks like that she must be one of those girls that has issues with co-dependency or something.

But no, that isn't how most girls think.

Like others said probably annoyed she keeps cockblocking him... to be fair back in Wormquake April seemed okay when she thought Casey was groping her... I mean seriously her entire reaction was 'not now Casey' if it was anytime else she probably wouldn't have minded...

This would be how some guys think most girls think.
It might even be how some girls think, but I blame both of those opinions on the prevailing cultural attitude that a woman's only use is as an object.

This concept is also alien to me, and I'm female. I can't even fathom this.

No offense, but not everybody likes those kinds of jokes. They often come off as virulently tasteless and immature, and I can't find myself respecting a poster for a long time after they make such a one.


Anyway, maybe April has Irma along because she doesn't want Casey to pester her like that. I'd do the same thing if a guy kept pestering me 'for a date' and I wasn't interested in him, and that him feeling resentful might put him and me in danger if he's having those feelings during a fight.

I'd rather she just up and say that's she's not interested in him, because this nagging Casey and his pushiness is getting on my nerves.

I didn't think SB's joke was offensive at all. It was funny to me.

As for the whole co-dependency thing, I've never felt like that at all in my relationship, but that doesn't mean that all girls are like that.

Irma
 

Maybe it a running gag in the show with Casey complaining about Irma all the time, I remember the 2003 series where the turtles would say all the time New Jersey would go first etc.

I really think this whole Casey disliking Irma think is being blown up a bit. From what we've seen, Irma seems to have a very odd, know it all kind of personality, like when she was interrogating Casey about the ice rink, or talking about rats. Casey, while yeah he's rude, has only been shown to have bad encounters with Irma (her interrogating, her going on what he thinks are his and Aprils dates) and seems to have interests completely opposite of her. So it's not out of place for Casey to dislike her.

While we all seem to feel bad for Irma being left out, at the same time Casey and April are just trying to keep the turtles secret, so it's not their place to tell her.


As for Casey's characterization, yes he has been portrayed as extremely into April, but I don't think you can say that's the only characterization he has. Not at all. He's been "fleshed out" in the good bad and Casey jones. Talking about how he's defending the people he cares about. In no part of that episode was Casey drooling over April. He's an aggressive kid with a temper, who's untrained, a little careless, but protects the people he cares about. That's his character.

I hate when people say that these love interest define the characters. Donnie April and Casey have all been given decent characterizations. The love interest are only a small part of them.