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Creativecreature31 06-13-2014 09:09 AM

Anyone else worried about the possibility of more Love Interests?
 
I don't mind if they wanna add romance. That's fine.

But I'm really worried that every girl who gets introduced on this show will become a Love Interest...

We already have Donnie and Casey in a Love Triangle with April...

Shedder and Splinter fought over Teng Shen....

And Leo's in love with his sister....

Can Irma please be spared of this?

And any other girls that get introduced for that matter?

Luckyday 06-13-2014 09:45 AM

Well honestly the only way to predict this is to look at Ciro's other shows and see if he had in the past created non love interest female characters.


edit: Base on his other show with Super Robot Monkeys, I would say no so yeah there will probably more love interests and only love interests.

Powder 06-13-2014 09:48 AM

It'd be worth it just for the tumblrtears. :tlol:

ssjup81 06-13-2014 10:36 AM

Why do people keep saying that Karai is Leo's sister anyway? It's not like they're related by blood or anything. The turtles aren't even blood relatives of Splinter.

That aside, I'm not worried about the love thing really...unless they bring in a couple of other female characters for Raph and Mikey to crush on, but I feel two out of the four is good enough...if Leo actually does have a crush on Karai, I mean.

Creativecreature31 06-13-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1281637)
Why do people keep saying that Karai is Leo's sister anyway? It's not like they're related by blood or anything. The turtles aren't even blood relatives of Splinter.

That aside, I'm not worried about the love thing really...unless they bring in a couple of other female characters for Raph and Mikey to crush on, but I feel two out of the four is good enough...if Leo actually does have a crush on Karai, I mean.

Well Mikey did call Karai, their sister. So maybe HE at least sees Karai as his sibling.

And the show bringing in more girls as love interests for Raph and Mikey is exactly what I'm afraid might happen. I don't them to make more girls just as love interests! Why can't there be girls who are JUST FRIENDS with the guys?

Is it so wrong for a boy and a girl being close without hooking up?

ABrown 06-13-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Creativecreature31 (Post 1281608)
And Leo's in love with his sister....

Oh lord. I never thought about it that way.

NitpickingMask 06-13-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 1281637)
Why do people keep saying that Karai is Leo's sister anyway? It's not like they're related by blood or anything. The turtles aren't even blood relatives of Splinter.

That aside, I'm not worried about the love thing really...unless they bring in a couple of other female characters for Raph and Mikey to crush on, but I feel two out of the four is good enough...if Leo actually does have a crush on Karai, I mean.

I don't know about you, but usually adopted siblings consider each other and biological children of their adoptive parents to be their siblings as well.

victory_angel 06-13-2014 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Creativecreature31 (Post 1281608)
And Leo's in love with his sister....

Leo isn't in love with Karai. When he first met her it's more like he senses something about her that is familiar about her, but he can't place it. He just knows whatever it is, it does not relate to the Foot Clan. So it is possible he mistakes his attraction as infatuation.

After he learns Karai is Splinter's missing daughter, he wants to get Karai back to the family he feels she truly belongs with.

Netkeeper 06-13-2014 02:14 PM

Come on guys, this is Irma we're talking about. Do any of you expect her to not be a love interest? The second I heard her name associated with this show I groaned.

Just come to expect the worst when it comes to this trainwreck of a show. That way if it doesn't happen, you can kind of be happy.

Creativecreature31 06-13-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1281770)
Come on guys, this is Irma we're talking about. Do any of you expect her to not be a love interest? The second I heard her name associated with this show I groaned.

Just come to expect the worst when it comes to this trainwreck of a show. That way if it doesn't happen, you can kind of be happy.

Except Irma wasn't a love interest in the original show. She may have been boy crazy in the original show but I don't remember any of the Turtles pursuing her. Except for that one episode where they were hit by a Love Potion.
Nor her to them for that matter... (I think she may have liked Donatello a bit but of course she never took it anywhere)

Not to mention, Irma seems like almost an entirely different character in this show. She's made 4 appearances in the show so far, and hasn't expressed any interest in boys or dating. Wow. A new record! XD

Netkeeper 06-13-2014 02:37 PM

Yeah, the original Irma wasn't a "love interest" exactly, but she was a pretty... awkward character to watch as a kid. I really didn't like her because her personality revolved around boys and that's not how girls actually are.

And I do know this Irma is going to be different. But how different still remains to be seen. I'm just bracing for impact.

IndigoErth 06-13-2014 03:19 PM

I don't really mind too much, as long as they don't reduce every female character to being mostly about that.

Poor Leo... he kinda seems to have gotten past or put aside that sort of interest in her though. Might not be blood, but figuring it's most similar to having adopted siblings, minus the paperwork, that's still isn't viewed too well morally speaking. Interspecies issue aside..

NoName999 06-13-2014 04:19 PM

Why is there romance in a show that's aimed a young boys, anyway?

Isn't the consensus that young boys find romance "icky"?

Refractive Reflections 06-13-2014 04:31 PM

As for OT Irma's manhunting ways... :lol: it was more for comedy (I mean she was willing to go out with Rex-1... a robot :lol:) than any type of serious shipping. With Nick Irma, I hope the writers don't make her a big question mark on what to do with her character after she discovers the Turtles, by pigeon-holing her mostly into the shipping thing, just to make her as a "supportive" character for whoever she's interested in. Yet it was a bit hopeful when Irma's and April's friendship was briefly focused in on in "Pizza Face", when Irma became slightly dejecting seeing April runaway after the movies, and not want to be with her.

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Originally Posted by NoName999 (Post 1281810)
Why is there romance in a show that's aimed a young boys, anyway?

Isn't the consensus that young boys find romance "icky"?

The crush aspect is played more for humor (seeing the Turtles act out of character for a period of time) so young boys will find it humorous (how many times have males teased about their other guy friends falling for a pretty girl, and how weird the infatuated guy acted because of the crush? :P), but once there's growing and reciprocating affection between a starting teenage couple, that's when young boys will find it "icky" with all of the romantic "love junk". Young boys are going to change the channel or stop watching the show, if the romance becomes increasingly emphasized since young boys are more interested in the action/adventure and comedy of a show.

Luckyday 06-13-2014 04:34 PM

Well that explains the writing I guess.

JTH 06-13-2014 04:35 PM

I can tell that anybody bothered by off species relationships doesn't watch Star Trek.

Oh boy, you people would be gagging and weeping by episode 4 of the Original Series...:lol:

BubblyShell22 06-13-2014 05:04 PM

I doubt Irma will be a love interest for either Raph or Mikey, but one never knows when it comes to this show. It doesn't bother me, and we've already seen that the crush is more one-sided on Don's part while April doesn't seem to really show she reciprocates it aside from a few innocent pecks on the cheek.

As for Karai and Leo, he did have a bit of a crush on her when he first met her, but that ended after "Enemy of My Enemy." Now he's more determined to get her to join their side not only because he sees good in her, but also because she's Splinter's daughter and wants her to be with her true father and family. That's the way I see it anyway.

Netkeeper 06-13-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NoName999 (Post 1281810)
Why is there romance in a show that's aimed a young boys, anyway?

Isn't the consensus that young boys find romance "icky"?

I knew plenty of boys growing up that were okay with romance in their cartoons. Granted, I [hilariously] wasn't one of them, but I knew several that were just fine with it.

Metalwolf 06-13-2014 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1281842)
I knew plenty of boys growing up that were okay with romance in their cartoons. Granted, I [hilariously] wasn't one of them, but I knew several that were just fine with it.

I always found romance in shows to be a bore-fest, even though I'm a girl and girls of are 'supposed' to be into that stuff.

I hope they don't make Irma into a love interest of anyone, or make Karai into a love interest of one of the bad guys should she get mutated. Most of the bad guy mutants are like, in their late twenties to mid forties? That would gross me out hardcore.

Netkeeper 06-13-2014 05:48 PM

Well yeah, anything that is purely based on romance fails to draw me in as well, even though I really like it as part of a larger plot or secondary genre. When it's the main genre, it bores me because I want to see romance after I start giving a damn about the characters.

Bossa Nova 06-13-2014 06:35 PM

The amount of romance in this show and the fact that not a single important female character hasn't been introduced that isn't some guys lust fantasy is 90% of the reason I've just about stopped watching it altogether. These writers don't know how to include romantic elements and have that be an extra dimension to a character's personality in a well thought and in-depth way. They just don't. It's utterly distracting and so far I dislike every character that has been subject into these forced "relationships" (except Casey). I hardly watch the show anymore anyway, but if one more girl meets the turtles and is instantly pigeon-holed into another crush rather than be her own, unique person, then I'm just done altogether.

Stugehen 06-13-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Creativecreature31 (Post 1281608)
I don't mind if they wanna add romance. That's fine.

But I'm really worried that every girl who gets introduced on this show will become a Love Interest...

We already have Donnie and Casey in a Love Triangle with April...

Shedder and Splinter fought over Teng Shen....

And Leo's in love with his sister....

Can Irma please be spared of this?

And any other girls that get introduced for that matter?

I'm still advocating that Irma becomes a villain! April's archenemy or something... I'd even be okay with her mutating though I don't think it is necessary.

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/PJfur43PW6A/hqdefault.jpg

You know this face is capable of something sinister....Mwuahahahaha

Shark_Blade 06-13-2014 08:51 PM

The more love the merrier. :tlove:

drgon78 06-14-2014 06:18 AM

Yes more love for everyone.

IndigoErth 06-14-2014 01:35 PM

As much as I could agree, I think I just heard the collective sound of 5000 little boys gagging... lol

RandomtasticFantasy 06-15-2014 02:15 AM

I don't mind romance, as long as that doesn't become the driving force of the show (more so of the show had a premise that didn't revolve around romance) and what the character is defined by. More so if a character is clearly shown to be one way/have other interest but literally their defining feature becomes the emotion he/she has for that person.

It's why I'm not a fan of Don/April. I could stomach it better if they showed more often than not that there is more to Don than just April, but at this point, she is dang near his personality. And it's very annoying.

Teddy 06-15-2014 02:51 AM

I say, bring it on! The whole Raph/Ninjara thing is the only reason I read the Archie comics at all. ;)

HotNunchuckFury 06-15-2014 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RandomtasticFantasy (Post 1282948)
It's why I'm not a fan of Don/April. I could stomach it better if they showed more often than not that there is more to Don than just April, but at this point, she is dang near his personality. And it's very annoying.

Exactly how I feel. I quite liked the little hints of it in the 2k3 series, it was quite sweet, but here it's been taken way too far. It's the main thing I associate with that version of Don, which is such a shame.

I much preferred April having the big sister type role, and besides there are much more interesting themes than romance which run through TMNT, such as brotherhood, martial arts, vendetta, long lost family, aliens, mutants, the list goes on. I would prefer the writers to focus more on these things and let the romance go. It's each to their own, but I just find Donnie's crush boring, unnecessary and annoying. Please don't do this to the others. And I'm female btw ;)

Lisardo 06-18-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HotNunchuckFury (Post 1282957)
Exactly how I feel. I quite liked the little hints of it in the 2k3 series, it was quite sweet, but here it's been taken way too far. It's the main thing I associate with that version of Don, which is such a shame.

I much preferred April having the big sister type role, and besides there are much more interesting themes than romance which run through TMNT, such as brotherhood, martial arts, vendetta, long lost family, aliens, mutants, the list goes on. I would prefer the writers to focus more on these things and let the romance go. It's each to their own, but I just find Donnie's crush boring, unnecessary and annoying. Please don't do this to the others. And I'm female btw ;)

I think the Apritello relationship is sort of cute, but it does get kind of annoying as that seems to define Donny a bit too much. I liked Don in the OT because there he was all about brains and science, and that aided the team very well. I do agree that the hinting of Don/April in 2k3 was better because it wasn't taken too overboard. Also the OT had similar, subtle hintings, like between Don/April, Don/Irma, Leo/April, etc. I'm a bit surprized the writers aren't worried about viewers thinking of the bestiality angle here. But then again, I can understand the turtles wanting some romance since they are mostly human with human needs/emotions (so not completely bestiality).

Midnight Mutant 06-21-2014 12:46 AM

The only couple I can get 100% behind is Raph and Mona Lisa. I wanted her to come back in the show so bad in the 90's because I loved her interaction with Raph and it made me happy.

Or even if she came into the 2012 version just to tease Raph and make him an act like a bumbling idiot so Donnie and Leo can give him ****. I could totally live with her being a flirt.

The way they did Irma, I don't see her really...being interested in relationships. She strikes me as more of a geeky animal loving girl who might find things fascinating from a zoologist point of view or something. (especially with splinter) but with more rebellious know it all-ish spunk. I could see her being friends with Donnie and spatting out useless information about how an animal lives or reproduces or migrates or whatever.
I truly hope she's not a love interest. She's so much different than her 90's counterpart in a good way.

BUT I SWEAR TO SPACE, IF THEY BRING BACK VENUS AND MAKE HER A LOVE INTEREST FOR EVERYONE...I'M GOING TO LOSE MY ****! She's got to be the one character I hope never makes a return to the franchise. *mumbles*

Other than that, I don't mind more love interests from new characters. As long as they don't consume the show and as long as the female characters have depth and aren't there JUST for the love interest aspect.

Warhorse 06-21-2014 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Mutant (Post 1287370)
The only couple I can get 100% behind is Raph and Mona Lisa. I wanted her to come back in the show so bad in the 90's because I loved her interaction with Raph and it made me happy.

Or even if she came into the 2012 version just to tease Raph and make him an act like a bumbling idiot so Donnie and Leo can give him ****. I could totally live with her being a flirt.

The way they did Irma, I don't see her really...being interested in relationships. She strikes me as more of a geeky animal loving girl who might find things fascinating from a zoologist point of view or something. (especially with splinter) but with more rebellious know it all-ish spunk. I could see her being friends with Donnie and spatting out useless information about how an animal lives or reproduces or migrates or whatever.
I truly hope she's not a love interest. She's so much different than her 90's counterpart in a good way.

BUT I SWEAR TO SPACE, IF THEY BRING BACK VENUS AND MAKE HER A LOVE INTEREST FOR EVERYONE...I'M GOING TO LOSE MY ****! She's got to be the one character I hope never makes a return to the franchise. *mumbles*


Other than that, I don't mind more love interests from new characters. As long as they don't consume the show and as long as the female characters have depth and aren't there JUST for the love interest aspect.

But, I thought Venus is already in the show, it's just she's not a mutated Turtle, but an alien/human named April.

Netkeeper 06-21-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1287542)
But, I thought Venus is already in the show, it's just she's not a mutated Turtle, but an alien/human named April.

Venus and April don't have the same flaws. Accusation falls flat.

BubblyShell22 06-21-2014 04:29 PM

Yep, April is definitely NOT Venus.

kolaida 06-21-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NitpickingMask (Post 1281681)
I don't know about you, but usually adopted siblings consider each other and biological children of their adoptive parents to be their siblings as well.

Yeah, but this isn't exactly a traditional adoption process (lol). I've seen articles and interviews before on step sibs who are couples, but it's because they were together before they became step siblings (usually their parents met through them and double love- gotta be awkward if anyone breaks up, tho). Or this one couple who was married for three years and when one had to start getting some medical work done, they discovered they were actually half siblings. Stuff happens. I don't advocate pursuing siblings but if you don't know, you can't really help it.

That being said, it is a kids show and that might be a little too complex for some kids to grasp. Also I'm not really interested in seeing Leo and Karai as a couple ( I would like it more than April/Donnie, but we already got that in he show pulse I figure that's what fanfiction are for.).

Powder 06-21-2014 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1287546)
Venus and April don't have the same flaws. Accusation falls flat.

-Random magic powers that allow them to win the battles/detect enemies the main 4 can't
-Love interest focus
-Full of strengths yet conveniently naive when it suits the plot
-Despite their importance to the series they are often cast aside

You were saying?

Netkeeper 06-21-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1287896)
-Random magic powers that allow them to win the battles/detect enemies the main 4 can't
-Love interest focus
-Full of strengths yet conveniently naive when it suits the plot
-Despite their importance to the series they are often cast aside

You were saying?

Flaws are pretty similar, but there's a couple key differences between April and Venus:

-April's existence doesn't force the writers to declare the turtles "not blood related"
-April isn't their "sister"
-April isn't Chinese

Powder 06-21-2014 09:57 PM

Being Chinese is a flaw? Wow, alright.

MsMarvelDuckie 06-21-2014 11:49 PM

I think NK was referring tot he fact that Venus was RAISED in China- while all the other turtles stayed in New York with Splinter. Exactly why she ended up there is something that never made any sense- especially as a "shinobi/shaman". Shinobi is another name for a ninja, which is NOT Chinese!!!

Powder 06-22-2014 12:05 AM

What doesn't make sense? Her origin was clearly explained. Jar shatters, they're oozed, she gets swept up in a blast of sewage and heads through a different pipe than the 4 boys, ends up in China town found by a Chinese fella who was there visiting (or living there temporarily), he brings her back to China & teaches her Kung Fu & ancient magic. The fact they used the term Shinobi was just a cultural oversight on part of the creative team.

Midnight Mutant 06-22-2014 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1287542)
But, I thought Venus is already in the show, it's just she's not a mutated Turtle, but an alien/human named April.

Haha~
The sarcasm is strong with this one. xD

I've heard this comparison before and all I can say, is that April is still a better character than Venus. If April IS their way of bringing Venus into the show without bringing Venus into the show, I can deal with that.

Just no "SURPRIZZZEE THUR WAZ 5 TURTLEZ NOT 4 AND ENDED AP IN CHINA TOWNZ OOPS LOLOLOOLOL AN ITZ A GURL!"

No.


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