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Machias Banshee 06-21-2014 08:43 PM

Official Episode Discussion S2 #21 "Plan 10"
 
http://vimeo.com/98662757

Someday I will learn how to embed vimeo videos....

Okay, so this show is a lil disconnected from the whole karai plotline it seems. We just saw the boys get blown up off a building last week. How does trading character brains contribute to the main storyline? Maybe this was supposed to be seen before last week's episode. Or is this just some more silliness to introduce another weird mutant person?

Who wants to start betting that Mike trains brains with something weird, like a squirrel or a turnip?


Let's enjoy the madness and be ready to discuss!

Vicky82 06-22-2014 12:38 PM

Official Episode Discussion S2 #21 "Plan 10"
 
Well, what the hell i'll make a new thread and Banshee can merge it when she come back online. So go nuts :D

Here are my thoughts

I was worried that I wasn't going to enjoy this episode because Idon't like these storylines but I was wrong, still it wasn't the best episode (not a top 10 episode) but it was so funny and I was laughing so hard throughout the episode, at one point I spat my tea out.

There was alot of stuff that returned in this episode. Kraang Prime and The Technodrome, The return of the Turtle sub and the the sea monster and he's still in love with it.

Leo must be really strong if he can carry Raph over his shoulders
Raph fighting himself was pretty cool.
Mikey wearing his pants
Mikey and Casey interacting more.
Donnie planning to build a turtle tech robot.

Funny Moments

Man in Pigeon saying he has an urge to eat breadcrumbs and poop on statues.
Mikey telling the mind swap man/pigeon " dude get a hold of yourself" and Donnie saying "Did you really just say that".
The mind swap man, thinking it was a dream and shouting, "I am a Man".
Mikey smacking Raph to wake him up but then tickles him and then the Kraang laughing.
Raph in Kraang body having trouble controling the Kraang android and trying to talk like them.
Kraang in Raphs body scaring people and spinning his head round - Exorcist reference - .
Casey laughing about the mind swap and then Splinter grabbing his ear.
Raph as a Kraang brain shouting "whoop! Whoop! Whoop! then running away saying "Squee! Squee! Squee!"
Mikey and Casey laughing and poking Raphs brain.
April and Casey swapping brains and when they swapped back Casey said e liked being a girl.


IGN gave it a 7.8

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/06/2...plan-10-review

MiBs 06-22-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82 (Post 1288271)
I was laughing so hard throughout the episode, at one point I spat my tea out.

How very british :lol:

TigerClaw 06-22-2014 12:47 PM

Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

BabyTurtles 06-22-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1288275)
Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

I was getting all mad at Casey for doing that....but my sister said "what do you expect a boy to do when he gets a girl's body???"

anyway~ my favorite part was the Casey and Mikey bonding moment....can we have more of that please *_*

JTH 06-22-2014 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1288278)
anyway~ my favorite part was the Casey and Mikey bonding moment....can we have more of that please *_*

https://i.imgflip.com/9rb97.gif

Yeah, that was pretty humoring.

BabyTurtles 06-22-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jth (Post 1288281)
https://i.imgflip.com/9rb97.gif

Yeah, that was pretty humoring.

it was so fudging cute!! *_*

Mikey and Casey should be tighter friends XD they are both doofuses lol

BoxxHarry 06-22-2014 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1288275)
Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Casey confirmed for being a weaboo.

This was a really funny episode. My favourite parts were all the scenes and shots of Kraang in Raph's body looking droopy. I wish they could have done more with the mind switching than just April/Casey, though.

snake 06-22-2014 01:09 PM

I laughed at the anime joke, the plot wasn't too bad either. I enjoyed it better then any kraang episode from this season.

Chinibio 06-22-2014 01:12 PM

I take i'm not the only one, who was sensing some pent up anger, when Mikey was slapping Raph:lol: This episode made me laught. Raph trying to control the kraang body was hilarious. For a moment i was sure (or at least i was hoping for it) that one of the turtles would end up having a deeper conversation with the kraag in Raphs body. It could have given some more insight about why the kraang are taking over worlds in the first place. Overall a very funny episode.:)

kelligrafie 06-22-2014 01:21 PM

When Krang-Raph whupped Donnie and Mikey in the Shellraiser. It really showed how much physically stronger than the younger two he is.

In the same way in the first Rat King episode they suspected Splinter had gone easy on them in training, I guess Raph's gone easy on his brothers too. No matter how competitive you get with your siblings, you always tend to hold back more than you would against an opponent you don't know.

Coola Yagami 06-22-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1288275)

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

When you add this with the turtle mech, the show is getting more and more anime-ish per episode. Lol.

BabyTurtles 06-22-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kelligrafie (Post 1288294)
When Krang-Raph whupped Donnie and Mikey in the Shellraiser. It really showed how much physically stronger than the younger two he is.

In the same way in the first Rat King episode they suspected Splinter had gone easy on them in training, I guess Raph's gone easy on his brothers too. No matter how competitive you get with your siblings, you always tend to hold back more than you would against an opponent you don't know.

Raph is physically the strongest, but in this case I think he just took them all by surprise. Especially Mikey (who he already had a good grip on) and Donnie was plain confused but quickly figured it out.

victory_angel 06-22-2014 01:34 PM

I agree it wasn't the best episode. Heck, even the Casey/April mind switch while mildly amusing could have been better done, or left out entirely. What would have been slightly funnier is if Mikey and Leo switched minds for about five minutes.

It was great seeing Raph trying to control a body he wasn't familiar with. And also being able to access the Kraang communication orb to contact Donnie. It would been refreshing the have him fumbling around trying to figure out the controls as the other Turtles usually leave all the tech and sciencey stuff to Donnie. But oh well, they are going with what they have time to put in.

Donnie is developing plans for the Turtle Mech, which looked kinda like one of the mech in the Donatello one shot of the mirage comics.

And of course the preparations for the invasion of Earth.

latmat 06-22-2014 01:37 PM

Was a fun episode - I liked how Splinter was using some wisdom and not just letting the turtles rush in. Gave it a nice touch that sometimes they really are over their heads...

Seemed like this episode is setting up season three, probably a more Krang. Hopefully we get to see some cross dimensional episodes. Maybe bring back leatherhead, that'd be cool.

I'd like to actually see some of the training that Splinter and April are doing, they just show them talking about it. Seems like that little fan of hers just does whatever they want in any given episode. I'd like to see that developed more and what her skills really are.

Was fun to get a glimpse into the Krang and the technodrome.

Ya Raph is pretty much able to manhandle Donny and Mikey. Leo and Raph sparring/fighting is more even.

Punker Don 06-22-2014 01:38 PM

I was honestly wasn't expecting to like this episode. I was worried it would end up retreading the same ground as the OT episode "The Old Switcheroo." Just watched it and really enjoyed it. It wasn't much of a twist on an old plot device, but it had more than enough humor and action to make it fun.

Spoiler:
It seems Donny might have ideas for giant turtle mecha. I don't know if I think that's really dumb, or really, really awesome. Gonna go with the latter for now.

MCLeo28 06-22-2014 02:01 PM

I wasn't expecting much, but this episode actually turned out to be one of my favorites this series had to offer. I don't know why, but there were plenty of funny moments, it was nice seeing Raph trying to interact with the Kraang and seeing Kraang Prime operate many plans at once and was using Plan 10 to switch minds with the humans to take over their world (or at least that's what I understood from it). Really nice episode and the ending, wow, loved it.

Spoiler:
Metalhead might be coming back for the Season Finale!

kelligrafie 06-22-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1288303)
What would have been slightly funnier is if Mikey and Leo switched minds for about five minutes.

Mikey would probably think it put him in charge like in the weapon switching episode.

"I'm the guy with the swords. I'm in charge!"
"JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN MY BODY, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THE LEADER!"



Did anyone notice that Josh Peck didn't just voice Casey, in the credits he was listed as some skull guy. I think it was the in the tv show they were watching - he might've been the villain.

Coola Yagami 06-22-2014 02:13 PM

I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

saintsaucey 06-22-2014 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kelligrafie (Post 1288327)
Mikey would probably think it put him in charge like in the weapon switching episode.

"I'm the guy with the swords. I'm in charge!"
"JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN MY BODY, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU THE LEADER!"



Did anyone notice that Josh Peck didn't just voice Casey, in the credits he was listed as some skull guy. I think it was the in the tv show they were watching - he might've been the villain.

I totally read that in Jason Biggs voice.

MCLeo28 06-22-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1288299)
Raph is physically the strongest, but in this case I think he just took them all by surprise. Especially Mikey (who he already had a good grip on) and Donnie was plain confused but quickly figured it out.

This. The fact that we see Mikey sparring evenly with Leo in the Vengeance is Mine promo suggests all of the brothers are around equal strength.

BoxxHarry 06-22-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1288329)
I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

I hope the invasion gets dealt with in the season finale while they save the whole thing with Shredder and the Foot Clan as a set-up for season 3.

MCLeo28 06-22-2014 02:21 PM

I wonder if Shredder will attempt to take back Karai and even mutate her in the Season 2 Finale and Splinter has his side-story where he tries to rescue her.

NoName999 06-22-2014 02:24 PM

This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

kelligrafie 06-22-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsaucey (Post 1288331)
I totally read that in Jason Biggs voice.

Speaking of voices, Dominic was better than last week. People were saying he was a tad flat last week, but nobody has really made a deal today. Maybe because of the Seth Green announcement they've come to terms with Biggs not returning.

VaughnMichael 06-22-2014 02:50 PM

Watched this one late lastnight via iTunes.
I have to be honest that this is probably my least favorite episode of the season.
Like others have said it's a bit of a re-hash of events and jokes no less.
I really didn't find many of the jokes in this one to be all that funny either.
My favorite part was the return of the Kraang SeeSerpent and the interaction with the turtle sub.
I did like that Casey & April came along even if I still don't care for this version of Casey (can't put my finger on it either but he he just erks me).
I also loved Don's reveal at the end of the Turtle Mech.
It reminded me of the old Metalhead Turtlevan Mech that Playmates never produced + one of A.C. Farley's TMNT designs.

BabyTurtles 06-22-2014 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NoName999 (Post 1288341)
This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

I know right! that was a surprise. :3

MrTMNT2012 06-22-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1288329)
I do find it kind of repetitive. The krang are going to invade the earth??? Gasp!! Who saw that coming??? Oh wait. Wasn't that the big epic event at the end of season 1??? Didn't we walk this road before? How many times has kraang prime said 'let the invasion of earth begin' by now?

At this point I'm kinda bored with them and more interested in the shredder and his forces.

At least they put a fresh new spin on it; with the Kraang taking over world leaders and dominating the Earth from the inside as oppose to their last plan!

I find this concept much more exciting! :tgrin:

Coola Yagami 06-22-2014 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012 (Post 1288383)
At least they put a fresh new spin on it; with the Kraang taking over world leaders and dominating the Earth from the inside as oppose to their last plan!

I find this concept much more exciting! :tgrin:

Yeah but I mean the part where raph discovered their plans and tells the others and it kinda looks like everyone is gonna get set to stop the big kraang invasion for the season finale.... This was all season 1 stuff. Have the season finale be about Karai and the retromutagen. Something different.

RandomtasticFantasy 06-22-2014 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoName999 (Post 1288341)
This was actually a funny episode. Way funnier than Pizza Face.

And Donnie and April managed to be in the same vicinity the former not going coo coo for Coco Puffs.

Agreed. I find it refreshing when he doesn't.

Overall, not a bad episode. My expectations weren't much but I was glad to see it was really enjoyable. Nice to see a Raph centric episode that's funny and fun.

victory_angel 06-22-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1288384)
Yeah but I mean the part where raph discovered their plans and tells the others and it kinda looks like everyone is gonna get set to stop the big kraang invasion for the season finale.... This was all season 1 stuff. Have the season finale be about Karai and the retromutagen. Something different.

The original invasion was with the Technodrome, only. Now it's going to have more then just that. So yeah this is the invasion of earth, but it's like "Okay, this time we're going to invade the earth and show we're serious about it."

Krang and Shredders desires to destroy and concur Earth also becomes same old same old in the OT

Coola Yagami 06-22-2014 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1288397)
The original invasion was with the Technodrome, only. Now it's going to have more then just that. So yeah this is the invasion of earth, but it's like "Okay, this time we're going to invade the earth and show we're serious about it."

Krang and Shredders desires to destroy and concur Earth also becomes same old same old in the OT

True. But this show is supposed to be beyond that. It's not the 80s any more.

victory_angel 06-22-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1288406)
True. But this show is supposed to be beyond that. It's not the 80s any more.

I believe it was Einstein who said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results." And it's a no brainer (pun intended) that the Kraang are quite insane.

Garfield 06-22-2014 03:42 PM

I enjoyed it. I like mind switch episodes in shows. Its got that silver age camp that I like.

I like Kraang Raph fighting to survive.

ranger_scout 06-22-2014 03:49 PM

Today's episode reminded me of the 80's episode where Splinter and Shredder switched bodies. It was pretty enjoyable.

blindturtle02 06-22-2014 04:20 PM

I liked this one. It felt a little like Raph Drives em Wild where he switched minds with that cab driver. Loved seeing the Technodrome again. I've been waiting for that. Really dug the Kraang laugh. It struck me funny. Great seeing the Dimension X sea creature again. Poor lovestruck lug just can't seem to catch a break! Very fun episode, and can't wait for Vengeance Is Mine next weekend.

BubblyShell22 06-22-2014 04:45 PM

This episode was definitely funny. Loved the switching thing and how Raph tried to imitate the Kraang. Kind of reminded me of when Cartman pretended he was a robot to fool Butters. Also loved how Mikey and Casey bonded and that Don didn't get all goo goo eyed with April. That ought to keep the anti-Apriltello people happy. Casey and April's switch was funny too, and I laughed when Casey said he liked being a girl. Reminds me of times I wish I was a guy sometimes. Splinter dispensing wisdom was good, too, and I don't think the plot is repetitive to season 1. The Kraang know their plan failed last time, so instead of terraforming the Earth as they tried to do, now they're going to try and switch minds with people to take over the world. Seems a bit more threatening to me, though now they'll have to rethink their plan. Overall, a pretty decent ep. Bring on "Vengeance is Mine" next week. I'm stoked for that one!

Ursalink 06-22-2014 04:58 PM

Miss part of the episode, can you tell me if there was any moment where the location of the lair was about to be discovered, please?

Sighphi 06-22-2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1288275)
Finally saw it, Thought it was a good episode, Plenty of funny moments.

Also Casey Jones seems to be a an anime fan, saying how he hates dubbed anime, and prefer subtitles.

Also when Casey switches minds with April, He got a little pervy when in April's body, pinching her butt.

Yeah Casey got some points cause he likes subbed anime and he did say that he liked being in the body of a girl so..... Raph and Casey shippers got their opening! :lol:

I also noticed that the clock on the Shellraiser said 2 o'clock so.... does that mean all these people were hanging out at 2 in the morning? Was it a Saturday or something?

Coola Yagami 06-22-2014 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ursalink (Post 1288465)
Miss part of the episode, can you tell me if there was any moment where the location of the lair was about to be discovered, please?

No. Kraang-raph was too busy thinking about getting away or attacking the turtles to consider using this to his advantage to find their lair and tell the others.


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