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fridaynightdestination 06-27-2014 10:15 AM

Has anyone ever told you you're too old to like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
 
TMNT is generally considered a kid's franchise, even with original dark comic books, the 2K3 which which a darker, especially with Same As It Never Was, and the new film which looks like it'll be PG-13. The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages. I wouldn't really call TMNT a kids franchise, more like an all ages franchise. However, on the last day of school, I wore my new TMNT 1987 shirt to school and a teacher looked at me in disgust and said, "Ugh, your too old to like Ninja Turtles." And a month eariler I mentioned to a kid in my class in a group project that I liked TMNT, and an Asian girl (not to be racist just saying) rolled her eyes and said "That is so childish."

So my question to you all is this: Has anyone told you are too old to be a fan of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

RaphAndDonnie 06-27-2014 10:20 AM

Nope but I've heard it about other things that I like, MLP and Monster High being notable examples.

Shark_Blade 06-27-2014 10:36 AM

Nope.

Turtles is a lifestyle and I guess they respect that. :tcool:

Prowler 06-27-2014 10:40 AM

Nope. And I wouldn't care even if they did.

Bossa Nova 06-27-2014 10:42 AM

Not really from adults. They just think it's fun (and maybe a little dorky) since they generally remember TMNT from their own childhoods. It's actually from children that I seem to get the most flak. I have a lot of cousins under the age of 12, and all of them seem mildly perturbed when they notice my collection of turtles (and MLP).

Whatswiththeheadbands? 06-27-2014 10:44 AM

Nope. But if anyone did, I'd tell them to get lost.

snake 06-27-2014 10:59 AM

Never, and I really wouldn't care if I was told.

Le Glorieux Tortue 06-27-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination (Post 1292642)
And a month eariler I mentioned to a kid in my class in a group project that I liked TMNT, and an Asian girl (not to be racist just saying) rolled her eyes and said "That is so childish."

I do not see reason to say her race as it had absolutely nothing to do with the anecdote. Perhaps people say the things you like are childish because you yourself have a reputation being as such?

turtlefanforever 06-27-2014 11:43 AM

ha
 
[QUOTE=fridaynightdestination;1292642] The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages.[QUOTE]

Ha, This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Nick is for the lowest common denominator. It's solely for kids.

Now onto your actual question, yeah I've heard it before as I'm sure many others have but the people that actually matter to me are supportive probably much like most people on this site also so who cares. Just be you.

Lou 500 06-27-2014 11:57 AM

No. Because I haven't told anyone.

fridaynightdestination 06-27-2014 12:02 PM

[QUOTE=turtlefanforever;1292678][QUOTE=fridaynightdestination;1292642] The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages.
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Ha, This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Nick is for the lowest common denominator. It's solely for kids.

Now onto your actual question, yeah I've heard it before as I'm sure many others have but the people that actually matter to me are supportive probably much like most people on this site also so who cares. Just be you.
Really? The 1987 show is honestly really cheesy and kiddish to me, and the Nick show looks like its aimed towards all ages. And I did remember hearing once that a producer of the show, I don't remember who, said he hopes that all fans, new and old, like the show. And the back of volume 1 of the New Animated Adventures comic series based off of the Nick series says "Its an all-ages book perfect for fans both old and new!" And I think Nick is a lot less aimed for kids than Disney Channel is. I think the Nick target audience is for kids 7-10 years old, and some of the shows on Disney Channel look like their aimed for 4-6 year old's. So while the new Nick show's main target audience is kids, I wouldn't say it SOLELY aimed for kids, because they have said they want old fans to watch it.

Le Glorieux Tortue 06-27-2014 12:28 PM

Well they are not going to say they do not want older fans to watch it as that sounds bad but it definitely is a show for kids up to 12 I would say.

Ninturtle 06-27-2014 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=turtlefanforever;1292678][QUOTE=fridaynightdestination;1292642] The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages.
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Ha, This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Nick is for the lowest common denominator. It's solely for kids.

Now onto your actual question, yeah I've heard it before as I'm sure many others have but the people that actually matter to me are supportive probably much like most people on this site also so who cares. Just be you.
No the Nick show is for turtles fans of all ages theres a ton of adults who enjoy this cartoon , for one it respects its old charecters , has good action and comedy , really cool charecter designs , ect. . The old cartoon was solely made for a toy line , literally they just wanted to sell toys thats why the cartoon was created . While the first season of that cartoon was good at the time , it was super goofy and only made mutants to sell toys . Also how many adults have you ever heard watched the tmnt cartoon at thetime .

Le Glorieux Tortue 06-27-2014 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292695)
No the Nick show is for turtles fans of all ages theres a ton of adults who enjoy this cartoon , for one it respects its old charecters , has good action and comedy , really cool charecter designs , ect. . The old cartoon was solely made for a toy line , literally they just wanted to sell toys thats why the cartoon was created . While the first season of that cartoon was good at the time , it was super goofy and only made mutants to sell toys . Also how many adults have you ever heard watched the tmnt cartoon at thetime .

Back then adults would not have reason to watch old cartoon as they did not have it as a child but adults today watch because they did and that it is good but it is naive to not admit it is still a children's show. There is no need to be so defensive

Ninturtle 06-27-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue (Post 1292692)
Well they are not going to say they do not want older fans to watch it as that sounds bad but it definitely is a show for kids up to 12 I would say.

But also keep in mind a ton of adults a fan of this new show just look here in the forum . Alot of people here are adults and a majority love the nick show .

Leo656 06-27-2014 12:41 PM

Nobody's ever given me a hard time about it for a long time, probably since like 1998 when the franchise was completely dormant. The most recent version of TMNT at the time was Next Mutation, so yeah, I can see why admitting you were still into TMNT at that point was about as far from "hip" as it possibly gets. But it was really rare, if ever.

Nowadays nobody seems to care. Literally every single time I wear my TMNT shirt to work out at the gym - which is often, as it's extremely light, breezy material - someone will make a positive comment. Once you're out of school, hobbies and personal tastes don't really matter anymore, socially.

Ninturtle 06-27-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Glorieux Tortue (Post 1292699)
Back then adults would not have reason to watch old cartoon as they did not have it as a child but adults today watch because they did and that it is good but it is naive to not admit it is still a children's show. There is no need to be so defensive

What TMNT cartoon hasn't been a childens show all of them . How is that a reason to bash the Nick show. And just because people get nostalgic over a old show doesn't make it good , many people have admitted that the show kind of sucked watching it as an adult . And you didn't adress that the whole 1987 show was a plot the sell toys . I like 1987 but i can admit its a toy milking show .

arkangel 06-27-2014 12:46 PM

Living in a small town in Alberta, Canada (maybe 5,000 people), there is really no one I know here that shares my love for TMNT, comics, pen and paper RPGs like when I lived in Calgary (1.2 million people). I still wear a lot of geek culture and TMNT t-shirts in my small town and the only comments I've received were positive. Some women smile and don't say anything, but I just pretend they think my love for the franchise is not immature, but "hot". :lol:

Added: In all fairness to the OP, I'm also 42 and care much less about being judged by others about what I like, then when I was in high school and even in my 20s. I wish I had this attitude back then. Like others have said, be yourself and enjoy what you like. Life is short. I see a lot of couples in their 30s and 40s at cons doing the cosplay thing and embracing their passion for the same franchises they loved as kids.

Discogod 06-27-2014 01:03 PM

Nope, quite the opposite. I have a lot of TMNT stuff at work - a few toys, and lots of drawings - and just about everyone thinks it's cool. A lot of the youngsters there grew up on the 2k3 show (one guy even has a tattoo of 2k3 Don on his calf!), and quite a few of the parents have kids that love the new show, plus everyone's excited for the new movie (despite my protestations). All in all, there's probably some kind of TMNT discussion every day in my department, definately one of the best parts of my job...

pannoni1 06-27-2014 01:05 PM

Never specifically, but whenever I would try to watch anything TMNT-related while in high school/college or even to the point of just a couple years ago, I would try to hide from the grown-ups to the point it was a hardcore "guilty pleasure" for the fear of being offended. Now that more mature incarnations are provided, that thought is out the back door. Its just that the kid-related stuff never targeted the mainstream fans towards the Mirage comics but instead whatever Playmates or Konami had to offer. If a show like The Next Mutation not only fixed the problems mentioned but added the suggestions we've provided came out in the past several years or even in 2003, it would have lasted much longer due to more acceptance of mature themes.

plastroncafe 06-27-2014 01:34 PM

I'm sure it'd come up more if I were a dude, but since I'm not the fact that I'm a chick who likes the turtles is far more bizarre than my age at the time.

CyberCubed 06-27-2014 01:57 PM

TMNT is currently in a nostalgic mood in the casual land.

Anything nostalgic is automatically cool. If you said this back in the late 90's it probably would have been different.

Ninturtle 06-27-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1292743)
TMNT is currently in a nostalgic mood in the casual land.

Anything nostalgic is automatically cool. If you said this back in the late 90's it probably would have been different.

But it doesn't make it good , i'm not saying you can't enjoy it but the old cartoon isn't a amazing show past season 1 but the show was made in the 80s and expectations were lower .

snake 06-27-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292750)
But it doesn't make it good , i'm not saying you can't enjoy it but the old cartoon isn't a amazing show past season 1 but the show was made in the 80s and expectations were lower .

Exactly, but most people don't rewatch the OT turtles.

plastroncafe 06-27-2014 03:06 PM

I've tried, but...years of reading fanfic have given my "Ship Sense" a hair trigger.
And that show goes down hill so quickly with those goggles on....

rickwj324 06-27-2014 03:20 PM

I'm 44 and everyone that knows me knows that I'm a comics/cartoon/toy fanatic. Never been ashamed/embarrassed about it. :D

Refractive Reflections 06-27-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292750)
But it doesn't make it good , i'm not saying you can't enjoy it but the old cartoon isn't a amazing show past season 1 but the show was made in the 80s and expectations were lower .

Ah, the quintessential "it was older so it has to be worse/lower than what we have now" logic. :lol: By that logic, I guess today's pop music and reality television are far better than that older, archaic nonsense they call television programming and music back then.

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292695)
No the Nick show is for turtles fans of all ages theres a ton of adults who enjoy this cartoon , for one it respects its old charecters , has good action and comedy , really cool charecter designs , ect. . The old cartoon was solely made for a toy line , literally they just wanted to sell toys thats why the cartoon was created . While the first season of that cartoon was good at the time , it was super goofy and only made mutants to sell toys . Also how many adults have you ever heard watched the tmnt cartoon at thetime .

And you don't think the numerous mutant of the week plots in the Nick show, don't imply they got many toy figures to sell either? In fact, it seems to imply Nick is inserting more of them into the show beyond what the OT did:

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Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1170699)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...uts-475-649396
Johnson highlighted that the line of figures offers a breadth of characters. More than 65 Turtles action figures will be launched by the end of 2015, with all first being introduced in the TV show, something other franchises don't always do, he said.

Besides are we really going to argue which series is more "childish"? I think "Pizza Face" from the Nick series has proven to be a fierce contender for that title, not even the OT used that level of gross-out humor or used food-derived mutants.

Ninjinister 06-27-2014 03:35 PM

The last person that told me this was a 34-year old male who watches Cartoon Network all day.

Donatello19 06-27-2014 03:45 PM

Yeah, actually. People used to pick on me throughout middle and high school for still liking it, along with cartoons/animation in general. Did I let it affect me though? Not at all. I couldn't care less what people think about me. If they have a problem with me liking something, then that's their problem, not mine. Why should we let people tell us what we can and can't like, anyway? We'll all be gone one day, anyway...shouldn't we just do/like the things that make us happy while we're still here? Am I hurting myself or anyone else by liking TMNT, or anything else that's animated or considered "kid stuff" by stereotypical idiots? No. You should like what YOU like, do what makes YOU happy...and don't let anyone tell you different.

Mzx10484 06-27-2014 03:46 PM

Nobody told me that. It is also a passion for collecting. I have rewatched the OT twenty years later again ... ok, the claim of entertainment has changed somewhat, but some episodes were still entertaining, mixed with more or less conscious memories.

slingtheory 06-27-2014 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=turtlefanforever;1292678][QUOTE=fridaynightdestination;1292642] The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages.
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Ha, This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Nick is for the lowest common denominator. It's solely for kids.
then I wonder what the deal is with all the homages to older versions that you'd need to be at least in your 20s to get. not to mention how it comes closer to the dark tone of the source material.

on to the original question yeah every once in a while. I was that kid always doodling turtles back in elementary school so if I run into anybody I knew back then while wearing or reading something turtle related I might usually get a "oh still into that huh" .mostly though I get it from family, my two little sisters specifically. I remember we were at my moms house the Saturday morning when I first saw the commercial for turtles forever and when they saw my reaction to that it was all "seriously, you're a grown man get over it." they still give me crap when they catch me watching the nick show which I dvr because im usually at work when the new ones air. speaking of my mom every once in awhile I get a comment from her something like 'you're gonna be in your thirties still watching turtles. just a big old kid with a kid of your own.' but that's more like good natured teasing I think. then there's my girlfriends family who don't really say anything but I get the feeling they find it a little funny.

Ninturtle 06-27-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1292781)
Ah, the quintessential "it was older so it has to be worse/lower than what we have now" logic. :lol: By that logic, I guess today's pop music and reality television are far better than that older, archaic nonsense they call television programming and music back then.



And you don't think the numerous mutant of the week plots in the Nick show, don't imply they got many toy figures to sell either? In fact, it seems to imply Nick is inserting more of them into the show beyond what the OT did:



Besides are we really going to argue which series is more "childish"? I think "Pizza Face" from the Nick series has proven to be a fierce contender for that title, not even the OT used that level of gross-out humor or used food-derived mutants.

1) It's not that stuff has gotten better it's just the cartoons in the 80s were meant to sell toys
2) the new show has alot of mutants that have toys but it at least uses the mutants more than once and they don't feel like they were made for the sake of a toy .
3) The show has had alot of serious episodes too . Just because one episode was childish doesn't mean the series is . a mojoriy of episodes from the old show were very childish due to how goofy it was .

Refractive Reflections 06-27-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292802)
1) It's not that stuff has gotten better it's just the cartoons in the 80s were meant to sell toys

...And so are the cartoons of today as well, have you seen the current Nick TMNT merchandising?

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292802)
2) the new show has alot of mutants that have toys but it at least uses the mutants more than once and they don't feel like they were made for the sake of a toy.

So you genuinely think that season 2 with the mutagen spilling out throughout the city (and the random mutants created from that) wasn't somewhat of an implicit plot device for fulfilling the number of action figure toys? I mean we have some really "out there" mutants like Ice Cream Kitty, Pizza Face, the mushroom in "Fungus Humungous", the squirrelanoids, Sir Malachi... shall I go on? In fact, a substantial amount of the viewers have been complaining there are too many of them, or at the very least they are being introduced too quickly to develop them properly.

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Originally Posted by Ninturtle (Post 1292802)
3) The show has had alot of serious episodes too . Just because one episode was childish doesn't mean the series is . a mojoriy of episodes from the old show were very childish due to how goofy it was.

The OT was noted for its slapstick humor because the censorship was different at the time (in fact some parents at the time thought even that was too violent, after reading these two articles: here and here). So the middle seasons do have their lighter tones, but seasons 6/7 and afterward are much more action-based. ...But I guess I could see why some would see that as "childish" (the slapstick), but in terms of immature humor (laughing at deliberate flatulence and burping) and gross-out humor (Nick Mikey's habits), Nick would be the winner in my opinion.

Jester 06-27-2014 04:45 PM

I once wrote a literary analysis of TMNT for a college class. I wanna say there were eye rolls and the like when I gave my oral report...but it may be because I waited until the very end to mention that what I was describing was TMNT.

alliance 06-27-2014 04:50 PM

isn't the geek 80's nostalgia sh*t whats more in now then ever before???

30yr olds from the 80's today would laugh at us today lmao but that's how things are EVERYONE it seems are in the same age bracket no matter what age you are..

Icebot 06-27-2014 04:51 PM

One time I thought about bringing ninja turtle stuff to school but my mother discouraged me cause I was growing up. I was disappointed but she just didn't want my friends in school to make fun of me. She said I should get into what teens like such as sports. My love for TMNT didn't go away.

In my later teenage years, I felt I needed to make sure no one knows I like ninja turtles. In fact, I never told anyone outside this website about the red sky episodes, I did a little of season 8 but not the last 2 seasons. To this day, nobody I know outside this website even knows about Dregg or the last 2 seasons. This all started when I thought I was too far away from my child years to let anyone know I like ninja turtles.

Refractive Reflections 06-27-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1292815)
I once wrote a literary analysis of TMNT for a college class. I wanna say there were eye rolls and the like when I gave my oral report...but it may be because I waited until the very end to mention that what I was describing was TMNT.

I wonder if you eloquently started out the report, to give the impression as if it was based on a classic epic story from American or European literature, that was mysteriously unknown to the audience. :P

...So how did you cleverly conceal this bit of information throughout your oral report Jester? ;)

EDIT: Maybe something like: "Four brothers in the struggle of their lives must face the daunting tasks of survival that strains themselves and their bonds, who are orphans, but finds a sympathetic and nurturing individual to care for them when everyone is repulsed by them..." :lol:

HotNunchuckFury 06-27-2014 04:55 PM

Nobody has commented on my age in relation to the turtles, but they have about other things I'm into (e.g. collecting/customising/photographing dolls/vinyl toys/figures, getting lego for my 32nd birthday, reading comics etc.). It doesn't bother me. I'm happier being myself and seeing their bemused (and sometimes disappointed) faces, rather than denying myself what I love to gain their approval. Some of the conversations my hobbies have initiated with complete strangers have been quite interesting.

Mona_Lisa 06-27-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination (Post 1292642)
TMNT is generally considered a kid's franchise, even with original dark comic books, the 2K3 which which a darker, especially with Same As It Never Was, and the new film which looks like it'll be PG-13. The original show was cheesy and made for kids, and the new Nick show is aimed towards all ages. I wouldn't really call TMNT a kids franchise, more like an all ages franchise. However, on the last day of school, I wore my new TMNT 1987 shirt to school and a teacher looked at me in disgust and said, "Ugh, your too old to like Ninja Turtles." And a month eariler I mentioned to a kid in my class in a group project that I liked TMNT, and an Asian girl (not to be racist just saying) rolled her eyes and said "That is so childish."

So my question to you all is this: Has anyone told you are too old to be a fan of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?


School sucks ok? That is the most judging group you will ever have to be forced into hopefully. I was made fun of for liking Ninja turtles.... So I didn't where my shirts or anything....
Then I graduated and Heaven shined down and all those jerks had to get a life and butt out of mine. Its a truly wonderful experience!:twink:
Now no one judges me, I think most see me as strange but cutie!!! and I can totally live with it. My Ninja turtle shirts make people smile, I actually think there cool now because there vintage! Lol!


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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1292656)
My too old to like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Is that like being told your fortune?

& there's no need to tell us what race the person judging you is...

Well, Powder is right but I can tell you are young so its ok. Live and learn!:tgrin:

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1292701)
Nobody's ever given me a hard time about it for a long time, probably since like 1998 when the franchise was completely dormant. The most recent version of TMNT at the time was Next Mutation, so yeah, I can see why admitting you were still into TMNT at that point was about as far from "hip" as it possibly gets. But it was really rare, if ever.

Nowadays nobody seems to care. Literally every single time I wear my TMNT shirt to work out at the gym - which is often, as it's extremely light, breezy material - someone will make a positive comment. Once you're out of school, hobbies and personal tastes don't really matter anymore, socially.

Yeah, agreed everyone likes my ot shirts. people even stop me and ask me where I got them. I am not sure if people like my "nick turtle" shirts though... That probably isn't cool:tsad:

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1292743)
TMNT is currently in a nostalgic mood in the casual land.

Anything nostalgic is automatically cool. If you said this back in the late 90's it probably would have been different.


Jester 06-27-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1292820)
I wonder if you eloquently started out the report, to give the impression as if it was based on a classic epic story from American or European literature, that was mysteriously unknown to the audience. :P

...So how did you cleverly conceal this bit of information throughout your oral report Jester? ;)

EDIT: Maybe something like: "Four brothers in the struggle of their lives must face the daunting tasks of survival that strains themselves and their bonds, who are orphans, but finds a sympathetic and nurturing individual to care for them when everyone is repulsed by them..." :lol:

I remember talking about the creation of the franchise, rather than the franchise itself...but outside of that, it's been 8 years (EDIT: Found the thread, sans paper...from 2004. !....maybe...I've 10 years ago...I feel old) so I've forgotten. I may still have the actual paper somewhere...actually I wanna say I posted it here at one point.


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