Is anyone happy with the Kraang?
 

So I don't like the Kraang. From the first time I saw the leaked bio I hated the mere concept of them, making the Utroms a villainous hivemind and calling them the "Kraang"? What's the point? All they needed to do was name one Utrom "Krang" and everything would be dandy, doing what they did just seems like it would piss off both fans of the character Krang and the Utrom race. It's like in the most recent Spider-Man cartoon where they decided roll Harry Osborn, Eddie Brock and Peter Parker's symbiote arc all into one character, it's just not right.

Not to mention that they just seem to get more confusing, more boring and more pointless the more they're in the show...

Not happy with the Kraang. No personality, no development, don't like the idea a technologically superior race needs thousands of years to terraform Earth, and even almost two seasons later they still haven't upgraded their standard battle suits.

They would have been more interesting IMO if there was at least a separate faction which was different or opposed Kraang Prime. But as they are now, they're just not interesting. I wouldn't mind if they were replaced with another threat in later seasons.

Very one-note, have a very comical gimmick (biggest problem with the whole show is the irritable self-deprecation) and don't tend to evolve to outmatch their calibure of opponent. Wasted potential.

Nothing wrong with Kraang.

Then care to ellaborate for the sake of conversation. What makes them great?

They have gotten redundant so I'm hoping they're defeated at the end of Season 2 and retreat to Dimension X.

We'll probably still see them in Season 3, but hopefully far less.

Didn't season 2 end already? I originally thought it was going to 26 episodes but the only confirmed season 2 end date was 2 weeks ago and no official release dates or even episode titles are out.

i'm in between. I like them because of the way they speak and find it ironic that for a species made of brains, that they aren't very bright. I also like when the Kraang insult other Kranng. "Stupid Kraang".

At least they did try to upgrade their battle suits....with chainsaw nipples and butt cannons.... I dunno. I guess I just don't have an opinion on them either way, but can understand why some would find them bothersome, as they are pretty redundant.

I'm personally wondering how things will work out once they get to the Dimension X story arc. Maybe there'll be more to them.

They serve their role as aliens, and they're hilarious. And mysterious. And squishy.

Season 2 has 4 episodes left.

Yet another proof that you don't actually watch the show; the Kraang improve their technology literally every episode. There's always a new vehicle or weapon they use to take down the Turtles and did I mention Kraang Prime came closest to defeating the Turtles? If it wasn't for that space pod, the Turtles were done for right there. They didn't even stand a chance!

That's what makes them formidable villains, they endure just like real ninjas and that's what makes them perfect as enemies of the Ninja Turtles.

Hardly me bloated buckaroo. All that says is I don't take particular stock in their methods

I'm so glad you took the time to write that instead of, oh I don't know, an actual rebuttal to my points.

I like the Krang.
They are funny Brains (not smart:P) and their way of talking is really entertaining. :D

And Leo imitating the Krang was damn funny!
"The ones who are working in this place must punch the card, which is known as a time-card, into the clock which is known as the clock of time."

This is what I mean by "taking particular stock", I would have been a fan if the Krangg had the ability to draw me in as a serious threat, and I can't take them as that with their hang-ups evident from the start. They can have all the most intimidating weapons and advantages in the world, but it has'nt slowed the Turtles down a whole lot, just sort of side-tracked them, and with their irritable character traits, so what's the use in investing in them for the long-term? Shredder and his Foot drove the Turtles away from their city for weeks in the 4Kids cartoon, they evolved to outmatch their opponents before the first season was even in the middle stages and it led them to a humbling and critical defeat, I've yet to see that in this show, though they're implying we'll get that before long.

I think they're a riot.

I do find them funny because of the way they speak, but only because they've been trying to mutate the earth for centuries, but still can't speak normally. lol

Man, I wonder what they sound like in Japanese. lol I need to check that link.

Nah, I don't really mind the fresh take on it in this case. Makes it seem like more of menace/threat to Earth that it stands to be overrun by some invasive alien species. Not just one alien bossing around Shredder as in the old cartoon. lol

Now, Roseanne Barr providing the voice of Kraang Prime on the other hand, I'll never be the same again... lol

Oh yeah, Kraang Prime! Her voice is incredibly annoying. Roseanne's always had an annoying voice, but as Kraang Prime it's painful on the ears. lol

They're hilarious. But battles with them got very repetitive very fast, and they always have that whole "take over the world because we just want to" plot.

I found them hilarious during the first season. They were pretty much the only thing that kept me watching. I'm not sure if the second season has died down on the Kraang humor, or if I've just gotten kinda tired of them.

eeeh..They were okay at first, but they are kinda boring now....(their speech is still amusing, but their episodes are so repetitive)

not really liking their purpose anymore....it would be awesome if their story finished up this season.

I wouldn't mind seeing them later in some outer space story or something later....but not as the turtles' main enemy anymore.

it's time to shift the focus to someone else XD

I "got" what they were trying to do with it but don't love the execution. I agree with those who say there's no real reason they couldn't have had a renegade Utrom NAMED Krang/Kraang, or possibly even a renegade species of Utrom called "The Kraang", I guess. Just seems like the standard, "It's all the same anyway, kids don't know" kind of reasoning for changing it. I got what they were trying to do, though.

More than anything, the way they talk ruined it for me inside the first three episodes. That's... funny? I... guess...

I think they're pretty funny, on the whole, though their plots have veered toward the repetitive side.

I'd love to see more of their attempts to integrate with Earth culture when they're not prepping the latest super weapon though.

I have zero problem with the Utrom/Kraang/Krang approach. There's a remarkable inconsistency across the Turtles multiverse. If anything, I prefer giving this (pretty unique) interpretation their own name, versus the approach IDW took, which was to conflate the traditionally benevolent Utroms with the warlord Krang. Not that I have a huge issue with that either, but it took more getting used to, and I do prefer the Utrom as a completely or mostly kind race because they make such a bizarre addition to the world in that role.

I don't think that kind of dismissive logic has infected this show at all (at least no more so than any other kids' show, which are filled with conveniences by necessity). If anything, it feels like acknowledging that the two concepts have been linked from day one -- Krang being based on the then barely developed Utroms -- and going with the name and approach that worked best for this incarnation.

1987: Krang was a single Alien that had dominion over Dimention X. But was banished and lost his body because of his banishment.

2003; The Utroms were a benevolent race and Ch'rel was the only known bad seed in the group.

2012: The Kraang are a cross between Krang and the Utroms, which makes them all evil and numerous. I don't think they have learned to talk normally because they don't see the point in doing so once they have invaded and mutated Earth to suit their needs.

We only know the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the Kraang and their plans to invade Earth. However there is Kurtzman...and I don't thinks he's all he appears. For example for someone who has been investigating the Kraang for a year, he seems to have at least 10 years worth of information on them. So that may mean he could be one of them...but in the case of Ch'rel so in other words he's the only defector except he's good.

Or maybe the Utroms are the species but Kraang Prime is the only one who is evil and has thus created a group of hive minded followers. In other words once Kraang prime dies the whole hive goes with him.

No, not really. Season one I was ok with them, I was hoping the season one final was it for them, that would have been the perfect way to end them. I felt we really didn't need them for season two, they should have focused on the Shredder plot in season two than season three could have been an all new villain.

I was tired of them in season two. I would love for there plot to be over with in season two but with the last four episodes most likley focusing on the Shredder / Karai / Leo explosive ending and the start of the Dimension X plot some thing tells me no :(

I'm curious if they plan to go the route that the term "Kraang" is basically the name of any life form from Dimension X.

We've got the Kraang, we've got Kraathatrogons (Kraang Worms), April and possibly others with Kraang DNA.

It seems like everything in Dimension X is "Kraang".

Pretty much my sentiments. Every episode that's involved them feels too similar and they've had practically no development. I really want to know what their deal is with April, damn it.

While I do love the Kraang, I think we've seen far too much of them for how little they've actually advanced the plot or contributed something beyond indirect consequences of the ooze.

The way they talk is still pretty amusing, but they've grown somewhat stale. I have always been more into eps where Shredder is the main focal point anyway.

Initially, I had no warm or cold attitude towards Kraang, I've decided to wait for a while and see, where it'll go. And unfortunatly, I must admit that the next episodes quite quickly changed my attitude. On the negative. I've never had too much fun with their way of talking, their weapons look and sound like a toys (by the way - I've noticed that it's probably the first TMNT animated series, where we've got almost no presence of "classic" firearms, except some RL (well, ok, let's say it's firearms :P) in one of the episodes from season 1 and machine guns on Steranko's chopper in Season 2), aaand... Yeah, as many of forum users already wrote, they're really "one-dimensonial" (trivial) and predictable foe.

And I've got really stron feeling (basing on my experience after watching all episodes from this season so far), that I wouldn't lost anything important, if in this S2 I would skip all "pure" kraang-centric episodes.

It's not the Kraang that irk me, it's the Kraang-April storyline that's boring me. I literally couldn't care less.

I'd much rather they spent more time on the Karai stuff.

I'd prefer the Utroms than the Kraang.

Besides, the Utroms would be divided into good and evil.

One led by Mortu as rebels and the other led by Kraang who he and his fellow evil utroms form an alliance with Shredder & the foot.

Not a fan of Utroms in general but i like how they turned out to be. I think they served their purpose really well as a distraction to the main plot.

I agree with those who find them humorous, but wish they were a bigger threat.

I think they're a hoot and a half! :lol:

And I'd say Kraang Prime is a pretty big threat.

People keep saying this, so where are they? It's been over 2 weeks since the last episode.

Yeah I guess. I do prefer the mutant monsters and the Foot clan, but the Kraang is OK.

You say that as if ridiculously long breaks aren't common as hell.

Kraang is seriously underdeveloped, you barely understand what their motivations are because it's so underplayed in every single episode where they appear.

Once Kraang Prime was introduced I thought we'd start to get more interesting Kraang stuff, but so far, nope.

I find them very entertaining, but they really need some more development at some point. Two years in and they're still just the funny-talking evil invaders, and they'll sorely need some more meat to their story in order to feel important or relevant for much longer.

I've still got my fingers crossed that they'll reveal that the Kraang are an evil cult-like offshoot of the Utrom race. I would be very happy to see some "real" Utroms on this show.