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CyberCubed 07-15-2014 01:06 PM

So the user Mortu was 4kids writer Lloyd Goldfine back in 2003
 
After reading the Ultimate visual history book, Lloyd Goldfine said he came to this forum under the username, "Mortu" and here are his posts:

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/member.php?u=529

Its kind of funny to read these old posts from 2003. He came online to defend the 4kids series from some negative views, same way Tom Waltz does with the IDW comics now, or Ciro and other Nick writers do with the Nick show.

Lloyd Goldfind had to respond to backlash to filler episodes and how the Foxbox aired episodes. He only made 16 posts but they're worth a read. Just goes to show you this happens with every new TMNT incarnation that comes up.

Man this really takes me back to 2003 when the 4kids show was first debuting.

Candy Kappa 07-15-2014 01:31 PM

Interesting.

Netkeeper 07-15-2014 01:42 PM

This post I found extremely interesting, as someone who used to hear nonstop jabber about "the devilry of 4kids" back in the 2000's.

This is a really neat fact, thanks for sharing!

IndigoErth 07-15-2014 01:46 PM

I'm not too surprised, people involved in such things are still people after all.

Personally if anything I'd ever have my hands in became popular I might be more likely to avoid reading too many opinions and junk and just avoid the stress of comments and expectations, but that's me.

Netkeeper 07-15-2014 01:47 PM

I'd troll the hell out of my fanbase if anything I created ever became popular.

ABrown 07-15-2014 03:32 PM

Oh CC, you've probably read that whole thing cover to cover twice already. I'm still in the process of savings up money over the course of a couple of pay checks to get mine.

Werecat 07-15-2014 04:12 PM

Nice to see the peeps who create the show actually care what the fans think. I really enjoy when the people who make the show actually communicate with the fans too.

Galactus 07-15-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1303891)
This post I found extremely interesting, as someone who used to hear nonstop jabber about "the devilry of 4kids" back in the 2000's.

This is a really neat fact, thanks for sharing!

I love the last sentence in that post. I like the Nick show but it does seem that was a really obvious route to go down.

Machias Banshee 07-15-2014 08:43 PM

Ooh, I didn't know he shared that in the book. I'll have to look it up...

We shared a few PMs and Emails, especially when he wanted to see the feedback on certain episodes. He was Always very pleasant... :)

CyberCubed 07-15-2014 08:47 PM

It makes me wonder how many other people on this forum are official undercover TMNT staff. I like when they make their presence known like Tom Waltz and Bobby in the IDW section.

But for all we know there are several Nick writers here reading threads like, "Is April a Mary Sue?" or, "How do you feel about the Kraang?" and are shaking their heads.

Werecat 07-15-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee (Post 1304122)
Ooh, I didn't know he shared that in the book. I'll have to look it up...

We shared a few PMs and Emails, especially when he wanted to see the feedback on certain episodes. He was Always very pleasant... :)

Cool, you shared feedback with him. Did anyone every mention how the cartoon series tends to focus on Leonardo too much while making his siblings inferior? I would think that would be the best feedback ever.

Netkeeper 07-16-2014 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Werecat (Post 1304154)
Did anyone every mention how the cartoon series tends to focus on Leonardo too much while making his siblings inferior?

http://i.imgur.com/SocvLsm.gif

Werecat 07-16-2014 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Netkeeper (Post 1304392)

No need to be a D!*k about it.

Cipher 07-16-2014 04:39 PM

Interesting! Lloyd doesn't get enough credit in the realm of Turtles creators. He did a lot of good for the show and you could tell he was 100-percent behind it.

This one I found interesting:

Quote:

Next, I find the comments about the show being "unrealistic" quite frankly... unrealistic! This is a show about talking animals and aliens and mutatiing ooze and ninjas in the big city. Within the framework of this world, the Turtles are a weirdness magnet. The idea that they can get caught up and drawn into one incredible and yes even unbelievable adventure after another seems to be a huge part of their charm. You never know where the Turtles are going to take you. If it's realism you're looking for, the show has that too; just look at the very real way the Turtles relate to each other, bicker with each other, care for each other.
It starts off with what I know is one of the least favorite arguments of many members here (myself included): the "Who cares about realism? These are talking turtles!" bit. But he goes on to nuance it with one of the best reads of the Mirage-styled versions of the franchise there is. The Turtles are a "weirdness magnet," and that is part of the charm when tempered with realistic characterizations.

This guy understood the series.

Slade 07-16-2014 10:42 PM

Heh, I like his signature..

Coola Yagami 07-16-2014 11:00 PM

I'm surprised you guys didn't chase his ass out of here....

CyberCubed 07-16-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1305079)
I'm surprised you guys didn't chase his ass out of here....

He only made 16 posts, all when the first season was airing. He probably only came here to gauge early fan reaction to the show.

BubblyShell22 07-17-2014 08:16 AM

That's awesome and makes me wish I had been a member back then. But I think the reason people didn't really chase him out was because they probably didn't know it was him due to the alias. He seems like a decent guy though. I really wish Ciro would post more often as he seems awesome too.

darthsmozers 07-21-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1303871)
Just goes to show you this happens with every new TMNT incarnation that comes up

LOL, what, a whole 3 incarnations?

CyberCubed 07-21-2014 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthsmozers (Post 1308802)
LOL, what, a whole 3 incarnations?

IDW and the movies don't count?

Prowler 07-21-2014 02:08 PM

I think it's pretty cool that some people involved with TMNT are members of this website. I doubt that happens in most other fandoms.

If I was involved in something big like TMNT, I'd feel tempted to google opinions about my work, but I'd also fear reading them and let some harsh criticism shake my confidence.

Metropoliskid41 07-21-2014 03:26 PM

I think the professionals know how to take criticism and praise objectively. The internet in general has made it possible for every person with an opinion and a keyboard to spew their viewpoint on everything, no matter how ill informed it may be. These boards are no exception to that rule. For ever rational person on here who can look at things objectively and disect the good and bad out of things, and list why something either worked or didn't, there is another irrational person operating on knee-jerk reactions and screaming loudest about some trivial thing that they can validate in clear concise reasoning. I'm sure we've all seen those posts. I would suspect that any of the professionals who frequent here have that in mind and are used to it. I'm sure Twitter has revolutionized the way to receive hate mail, just ask Rick Remender.

thebrownranger 07-21-2014 03:34 PM

That is a very neat and interesting find. Thanks for the share Cubed.

Refractive Reflections 07-21-2014 07:03 PM

Meh, I'm not too surprised if there are "undercover" official TMNT staff registered on the site as regular users, or if they even casually look over the forums without registering. It's natural human curiosity to want to know the reception of any work, but it all has to be put in the right perspective as a few users before me have stated.

People all have a different criteria, taste, and background for something as subjective as entertainment. With a fandom, you'll get all types of reactions from thought-out to immediate emotional reactions, from overanalyzing details to the vague general comments. It all depends on a creator's individuality on how they react to criticism, plus figuring out how much of that criticism should influence one's work if they start reading the comments. It's the balance of trying to improve one's skill, but at the same time not compromising your artistic vision to an unfamiliar degree.

Hmmm, so I wonder why Mortu only posted or stuck around for 16 posts if he wasn't chased out then... It's probably due to a busy schedule, but the speculation as to why is interesting though, especially considering some our Technodrome members here. :lol:

CyberCubed 07-21-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1309189)

Hmmm, so I wonder why Mortu only posted or stuck around for 16 posts if he wasn't chased out then... It's probably due to a busy schedule, but the speculation as to why is interesting though, especially considering some our Technodrome members here. :lol:

His last login date was in 2005, so he was here at least up until Season 3 was airing of the 4kids cartoon.

THGhost 07-21-2014 07:39 PM

Good find, Cubed. Someone here from the Nick series should make themselves known.

Powder 07-21-2014 07:49 PM

They have, tons of them. & their usernames are their real names (for the most part), & displayed in green, confirming that they are official staff. Ciro, Brandon, Kenny, Alex, a bunch of 'em.

THGhost 07-21-2014 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1309238)
They have, tons of them. & their usernames are their real names (for the most part), & displayed in green, confirming that they are official staff. Ciro, Brandon, Kenny, Alex, a bunch of 'em.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19e9.../ku-xlarge.png

Aaronardo 07-21-2014 08:16 PM

Yep, Powder's right. And you d!ckheads chased nearly half of them off the forums.

Powder 07-21-2014 08:51 PM

The only one who left was Ciro, & that was due to his not wanting to see all the comparisons being made between the Nick series & 'toons of past, which I can understand. But people are going to do it, it's a part of fandoms. I don't think fans were in the wrong to draw comparisons as it's natural to do & I also don't think Ciro was in the wrong for being bothered by it, as a creator always wants their work to stand alone & be judged on its own merit.

THGhost 07-22-2014 06:31 AM

They were wrong for not expecting/respecting it though.


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