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MikLeo 07-20-2014 11:33 PM

If Venus show up in this movie or the sequel, how you will react?
 
Joke aside, I really don't know! Venus did had potential but TMNT the next mutation was badly done. For one they shouldn't have never make Venus the protagonist or make her the mary sue of the TMNT. To returned to my question; if done right I wont mind see her again.

Slade 07-20-2014 11:37 PM

No..just, just no.

Warhorse 07-20-2014 11:40 PM

I'd probably sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch the meltdown on the technodrome. Not withstanding, I'm not a fan of her either, but I'm not as passionate about it as some are.

Leolead 07-20-2014 11:42 PM

Heck no...just no.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859 07-20-2014 11:45 PM

it will never happen...

sdp 07-20-2014 11:48 PM

I would watch 5 threads on the drome go to 50 pages in just a few hours. I actually think the movie universe might go crazy with mutations and if they do I can see them doing Venus even if not as a main character. Didn't the transformers movie put a bunch of transformers for the sake of it?

Without Laird the stupid restriction of no Venus is gone, what affects people the most is that she was one of the turtles from the origin and later becomes part of the turtles, get rid of that and just have her origin not include that part and boom, she's just another mutant.

samxsteal 07-20-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MikLeo (Post 1308480)
Joke aside, I really don't know! Venus did had potential but TMNT the next mutation was badly done. For one they shouldn't have never make Venus the protagonist or make her the mary sue of the TMNT. To returned to my question; if done right I wont mind see her again.

I actually would, I would like seeing Her, Mona or Alopex

Autbot_Benz 07-20-2014 11:53 PM

Venus never happened end of story

IndigoErth 07-21-2014 12:19 AM

I can only assume she'd show up for the typical relationship reasons for adding such characters... so, just no.

Really it's a shame for her because she might have been a cool character if she was done right and involved all along and not a tool, but... no thanks.

Powder 07-21-2014 12:58 AM

I think the only creative team capable of doing her justice would be the Nick series fellas, Ciro & Brandon, among others. That's where I'd accept her. Otherwise? Pass.

samxsteal 07-21-2014 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1308515)
I think the only creative team capable of doing her justice would be the Nick series fellas, Ciro & Brandon, among others. That's where I'd accept her. Otherwise? Pass.

i Could see them doing a darker version in IDW

Kanon 07-21-2014 01:15 AM

I would order an airconditioner for the server-room cause they will break down by all the negative posts. :lol:

My Opinion:
I would like to see her, but not with her stupid way of talking and more as a ninja (Shinobi? no way!)

Candy Kappa 07-21-2014 01:39 AM

Venus in the Platinum Dunes style?

Sure, why not.

pennydreadful 07-21-2014 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1308527)
Venus in the Platinum Dunes style?

Sure, why not.

This. It'd be worth it just to watch. What can I say - some people just wanna watch the world burn. :P

She'd probably look similar to this:


(No disrespect intended to the artist - just saying... she's got the muscles, lips and enormous Turtle ta-ta's to fit in with Bay's boys).

JamieH 07-21-2014 04:39 AM

I'm trying to think of a legitimate reason to dislike Venus, and I'm coming up empty.

If people have a problem with her being female, that's ridiculous. Her origin? Doesn't really affect anyone or thing. It's actually good for building off of and allows her to have a general sense of different views and beliefs. Another mutant turtle isn't a problem, because Slash. And her personality is the kind of thing easily changed and improved by a competent writer.

Really, seems to me all the backlash is either from her simply being female or such a character getting a poor initial representation and introduction from a questionable series.

So all in all, eh, sure, I'm OK with her. If anything, now that the idea has been put out there, I'd like to see her introduced into the IDW series. I don't doubt for a moment that the creative team of the IDW comic would do a fantastic job of mixing her into things.

ObiWanFan4life 07-21-2014 05:58 AM

Me Personally. ...
Her poor portrayal in The Next Mutation aside, she didn't serve much purpose to the team.

Coola Yagami 07-21-2014 07:57 AM

I'm surprised to see so many negative responses. I mean, so many of you already love all the bs this stupid movie has already. What's another turd in an already horrible crap sandwhich?

Leo656 07-21-2014 09:30 AM

Yeah, was gonna say, it'd be absolutely perfect for the movie universe. "Just throw it all in there without rhyme or reason!" I can't think of too many places that'd be a "better" fit for Venus.

If Donnie's Ghostbuster costume and Mikey's ability to punch through steel doesn't turn you off, then you probably shouldn't have a problem with Venus, either. What's one more badly-executed idea on the pile?

Galactus 07-21-2014 10:00 AM

If you listen closely somewhere out there you can hear the sound of Jarrah White creaming himself at the thought of a Michael Bay version of Venus.

Leo656 07-21-2014 10:02 AM

I think that's twice that guy's been mentioned in a week. Now, NOBODY ELSE say his name again, ever; it's the third one that frees him from The Phantom Zone. :lol:

IndigoErth 07-21-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful (Post 1308543)
She'd probably look similar to this:

You know what's gonna happen... their people are gonna see threads like this and decide four sequels from now that April should be mutated into Venus. And then her making out with Raph can go beyond innocent. o.O lol

The Boston Ninja Turtle 07-21-2014 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1308515)
I think the only creative team capable of doing her justice would be the Nick series fellas, Ciro & Brandon, among others. That's where I'd accept her. Otherwise? Pass.

this 100% and i think it follows the rule of movies arnt a place to experiment new ideas...leave that to a series where an a few episodes can be used to flesh out a good story

Sumac 07-21-2014 03:47 PM

I don't have problem with Venus as an idea for a character. Why? See my signature.

However, I don't want her in Bay's movie for one simple reason: whatever they do to her it most likely will turn rather horrible. Especially her design.

On the other hand they at least will have excuse to use TURTLELIPS. :D

Imagine Venus with this:

Metropoliskid41 07-21-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1308590)
I'm surprised to see so many negative responses. I mean, so many of you already love all the bs this stupid movie has already. What's another turd in an already horrible crap sandwhich?

:tlol::lol::tlol::lol::tlol::lol:

I laughed so hard at this that I busted into a Nick Nolte dirty old man wheeze. Haha

Cryomancer 07-21-2014 06:52 PM

She can be their lost sister from dimension X where they are all from and were taken to earth as babies to become the chosen heroes to overthrow Krang!

Only one thing in that was changed from the leaked script. Boy I hope that isn't still in the movie.

THGhost 07-21-2014 07:01 PM

Totally worthless character that should be completely wiped from every turtles fan's mind.

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859 07-21-2014 07:02 PM

I feel dumber for coming into this thread....

TurtleTitan97 07-21-2014 07:04 PM

I'd sooner wish for Mr.Ogg to return than Venus.

THGhost 07-21-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1309193)
I'd sooner wish for Mr.Ogg to return than Venus.

Or Usagi Yojimbo.

IndigoErth 07-21-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cryomancer (Post 1309180)
She can be their lost sister from dimension X where they are all from and were taken to earth as babies to become the chosen heroes to overthrow Krang!

In that case she may end up all "wtf, sexism!" that the boys were sent off to be heroes and her ass got left behind. lol (Orrr she'll just be yelling about the greater evils she's had to deal with alone... lol)

A_Little_Too_Raph.9859 07-21-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost (Post 1309195)
Or Usagi Yojimbo.

That would be cool...I wouldn't mind seeing more mutants if we get more movies

Galactus 07-21-2014 07:33 PM

While we're at it let's back Carter and Hokum Hare and Irma's piano playing boyfriend.

Mona_Lisa 07-21-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikLeo (Post 1308480)
Joke aside, I really don't know! Venus did had potential but TMNT the next mutation was badly done. For one they shouldn't have never make Venus the protagonist or make her the mary sue of the TMNT. To returned to my question; if done right I wont mind see her again.

Venus was a terrible character and it is very hard for me to imagine her any other way.....
Take away the magic junk, The fact that she was portrayed as way better (at fighting) than all the turtles we have know and loved for years, AND the fact that next mutation totally ruined the happy turtle family.... Maybe??? IDK:trolleye:

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Originally Posted by Galactus (Post 1309224)
While we're at it let's back Carter and Hokum Hare and Irma's piano playing boyfriend.

Your crazy, lol!! JK

TigerClaw 07-21-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa (Post 1309240)
Venus was a terrible character and it is very hard for me to imagine her any other way.....
Take away the magic junk, The fact that she was portrayed as way better (at fighting) than all the turtles we have know and loved for years, AND the fact that next mutation totally ruined the happy turtle family.... Maybe??? IDK:trolleye:



Your crazy, lol!! JK

Though I would've like to see Mona Lisa appear in a sequel. Just saying. :)

Mona_Lisa 07-21-2014 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1309249)
Though I would've like to see Mona Lisa appear in a sequel. Just saying. :)

Me too!!!! I liked her character much better!:D

TerranigmaFreak 07-21-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse (Post 1308486)
I'd probably sit back with a bag of popcorn and watch the meltdown on the technodrome. Not withstanding, I'm not a fan of her either, but I'm not as passionate about it as some are.

Exactly what I was gonna say.

Coola Yagami 07-21-2014 09:15 PM

Honestly it would be the final thing all you guys needed to see to FINALLY understand that this movie needs to fail so that someone else can take over and do a better job.

Raven 07-21-2014 09:53 PM

It really depends on how they portray her. The NT version had a lot of potential but was lost in the campy, dumb sound effects.

I think Venus could be a great character if given to the right person, is this the particular place I would want to see her? No, I think the Nick version would do her better justice.

In fact, I'm praying they bring her into that show...I wanna see some one take this unlikable character and make her awesome. Just like with Raiden in the MGS series.

JamieH 07-21-2014 09:56 PM

I've always felt that you've got to be a pretty open minded person to accept the Turtles in general. I mean, it's already pretty damn ridiculous to begin with.

4 baby boy turtles fall into the sewers of New York and are turned into humanoid mutants by a strange chemical who grow into teenagers that have been taught ninjutsu by a rat that has also been mutated into a giant rat, by the same chemical, that learned ninjutsu simply by mimicking it's human owner when it was just a "normal" rat living in Japan. I forget to mention they all know and speak English with no prior education?

Yet, it works and we all accept them. But, a 5th turtle that's a girl and uses magic? "Pfft, that's just dumb..." riiight. Never mind how goofy the '87 cartoon gets.

I'm not exactly being all serious here, but really, just seems like Turtles fans would have a pretty large suspension of disbelief. I sometimes get the feeling a large part of all the Venus hate comes from it being the thing to do. "Everyone else is saying she's stupid, I better too."

Now, I have already said Venus was poorly executed in Next Mutation. But the idea, the idea of Venus ain't bad.

And that's really what is being asked here. There is the potential for Venus to be used in other TMNT series and be done well.

Having said all that, I've got no dog in this fight and I too would like to see the aforementioned meltdown if she was brought into other TMNT series.

pennydreadful 07-21-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1308754)
You know what's gonna happen... their people are gonna see threads like this and decide four sequels from now that April should be mutated into Venus. And then her making out with Raph can go beyond innocent. o.O lol

Pfft, at least if they did that, they could CG some actual emotion onto VenusFox's face.

Myself, I understand that changing the guys' backstory and having Venus come in and defeat the Shredder once and for always annoyed the fans... but I don't think Venus deserves nearly the level of hate that she gets. I kind of feel sorry for the poor kid; nobody loves her! She's probably one of the most-loathed characters ever.


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